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Yay, I managed to trade the JS project against a Python one /o/
 
user1804599
So you went from terrible to even worse
 
user1804599
congrats
 
Taste and shit.
 
5:15 PM
> Son récit était si dense que j’avais essayé de le raconter sur Twitter
oui c’est plutôt logique en fait
 
@RichardHammond I've gone to Italy you bellend. While I still can. Here's a clue. https://t.co/OmU82A3wcc
 
Ven
@Morwenn gg :P
 
I started destroying every QGridLayout in the project. I'm feeling better now.
I sometimes wish we used Qt Designer instead of maintaining heaps of boilerplate code.
 
5:30 PM
@fredoverflow yes
 
@Borgleader What's the clue
 
clue.get(it)
 
bbl
 
@Shoe AFAICT the Italian car.
 
Ell
I tried doing a little bit of WPF today
it seems pretty alright
 
5:42 PM
@Borgleader The italian care is a clue that he has come to Italy and that he might not be able to in the future? What
 
That's he's in Italy. Not being able to go there in the future I interepreted as a brexit reference.
 
Italy cannot yield a referendum on those things AFAIK
By law
Also we have no chance outside of EU, so 95% not gonna happen
 
@Shoe He's british though, i.e. subject to brexit fallout.
 
Oh, I'm dumb
Yeah, got it now. Thanks :(
 
Anyway, these guys are funny. Cant wait for their new show :)
 
5:48 PM
@Ell Maybe you need to put your glasses on
 
what's wrong with wpf
honest question btw
 
XAML for one thing.
 
I don't think I've heard you ranting on this one yet
 
the WPF designer is well known to be a buggy slow crashing piece of shite
 
Ell
yeah it's slow
 
5:51 PM
so WPF designer is the MSVC of C#
 
Ell
I though that was because of my 95% ram usage though
 
President of GM had revelation on on-demand car services when he found himself relying on company-provided chauffeur to drive him around
 
yeah I remember Johan complaining about it
 
#justrichpeoplethings
 
sounds like a valid complaint
 
5:52 PM
@milleniumbug you know how zoos etc. have 'please don't tap on the glass' notices on the aquariums or 'do not feed the animals' signs?
6
 
Ell
I like XAML
 
It's supposed to be a language for people who aren't programmers. and also machine generated so designers (program) can understand it
 
What's the context here?
 
WPF
 
WPF, GUI framework for C#
 
5:57 PM
have you started writing wpf bug?
@milleniumbug pretty slow but usually not a problem, nasty implementations but you will only* suffer from that if you are a control author
 
yeah, I'm writing WPF code for my engineer's thesis
not sure what's the scientific title equivalent in english-speaking world
 
6:59 PM
@Euphoric: I love this. One person says both are wrong, one person says both are right, one says they need to compromise, one says they should break down the tasks into parts and just work on different things. The message I'm actually getting is that nobody really knows what the right approach is! — Mehrdad yesterday
 
7:57 PM
@Puppy, I don't want to admit it, but for the first time in like 200 years, your government appears to be worse off than ours. And ours is in pretty bad shape already.
 
yeah.
 
8:11 PM
@JerryCoffin So I was playing around with the auto-minidumps and debug symbols yesterday night. I figured how to generate symbols and keep them completely out of the .exe. (This was actually quite difficult to do with the Intel compiler.) So now, I think I can turn on debug symbols for release builds. Which means no more hunting for a line of assembly in a 100MB assembly+source file.
 
@Mysticial Not for long ;)
 
@Borgleader Not really. If Trump wins, it'll be the end of the world for everyone. So we won't be worse than the UK since the world population will be zero.
 
Are you asking why a memory leak slows down an application? — NathanOliver 44 secs ago
@Mysticial The world won't end instantaneously :P
 
not sure if fortunately or unfortunately
 
@Borgleader It will. But he'll make you believe otherwise.
 
8:24 PM
Trying to decide on a websocket library for C++
I might go with one of those C ones and then wrap it up.
 
nwp
@Mysticial I expect the world to end with hillary too, so it doesn't matter who gets elected
 
but at least with the other option it would be hillarious
 
@nwp :P /cc @Mysticial
 
nwp
wasn't there a third party in the US at some point? If they get like 5% and prevent either of the big parties to get a majority they would have significant influence considering the number of votes
 
That's why Al Gore didn't win in 2000.
 
8:37 PM
@nwp Happened to the UK in 2010. They entered coalition with one of the bigger parties.
 
@nwp When you see what the third party is in France, trust me, you don't want to have a third one.
Can't complain about C++17 when you compare it to Presidentials++17.
I think I need more cute fluffy things.
 
nwp
that thing looks more depressed than cute and fluffy
 
You can be depressed and cute :o
 
Yeah, they aren't exactly mutually exclusive.
 
Cute and fluffy? In this economy?!
 
nwp
8:50 PM
-depressed
+depressing
 
hmmm
saw a very interesting suggestion on the BBC
they said that the Prime Minister does not actually have the legal right to trigger Brexit without an Act of Parliament
 
@Morwenn Shpongle is awesome.
 
@wilx That is is :)
I even managed to get a friend to like them even though he tends to hate eletronic music.
New album later this year /o/
 
@Morwenn lol, I commented on that exact video a year ago. :)
 
8:54 PM
Also new Caladan Brood, new Infected Mushroom, new Gallowbraid and new Savant later this year. It's gonna be good :D
@wilx Now that's an original comment x)
Hopefully new Dur Dabla, but I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't out before 2017.
 
@Morwenn Kill it with fire! It is clearly suffering.
 
@wilx Nah, cuddle it until it's happy :(
Or dead.
 
It's fun how there's hardly any band like Shpongle around.
Oh, the results of public research will finally be free for everyone in France :o
Excellent news!
 
@Morwenn I'll tell you what's fun. There is an almost exact correlation to my extra tummy girth and the size of the c++ standard. In 98 I was just a tad overgirthed.
 
9:01 PM
@CaptainGiraffe Some people in the C++ committee are making small efforts to deprecate/remove things and make the standard shrink.
 
@Morwenn I have also recently picked up tennis. I hope they are more successful.
 
IRTA « I have also recently picked up penis ».
 
@Morwenn You need to say more to make that statement unambiguous.
 
How is it ambiguous?
 
1 You have a new man/boyfriend that you are friendly witth. 2 You have a penis surgically installed sci-fi style. 3 You have recently discovered you are gay.
 
9:07 PM
4 you recently found a penis lying on the floor and picked it up
 
5 my penis is literally a pick-up
 
@Morwenn The video looks like somebody from a demoscene background made it
 
will ram your road
@Aaron3468 What do you expect from the psytrance scene? :p
 
@Morwenn That would make no sense, disqualified from the ambigous territory
 
Still the sanest solution.
6 I'm on shrooms
 
9:10 PM
@Morwenn BLONGOMANIACLLY the winner.
 
Also you're a giraffe.
 
7 Your son is named penis
 
@Morwenn For purposes of identification, yes. For behavioural recognition, no.
 
Transgiraffe confirmed.
 
We live in an era where every giraffe can have a computer at home; I hardly think behaviouralists are prepared for this brave new world
 
9:15 PM
I have a leaf on every tree that I can grab. I'm satiated at my whim with the most delicious of leaves. Please don't go out of your way to make Giraffes any different from the two legged pigs or the humans. I'll stand tall.
4
 
9:37 PM
is Britain leaving the EU a delicious leave?
 
Time to go to sleep.
Have a token of my appreciation before I'm not there anymore:
 
slightly nsfw
 
C'mon, it's only Santa without Claus :o
 
user1804599
SELECT *
FROM presents
SANTA good -- the santa clause
6
 
10:03 PM
This Vine, and its caption, caused me to choke on my lunch... https://vine.co/v/hgbab1H2LH7
Man. Tell me the gif is doctored
 
@sehe the gif is doctored
 
Thank you. You're a real friend.
 
10:18 PM
frankly it would not surprise me were the gif not doctored
 
Damn Archer cliffhangers.
 
@sehe I love you too sehe.
 
maybe having BidirectionalRange, BidirectionalRangeContext, BidirectionalRangeType, and BidirectionalRangeContextType is a bit crazy cc @sehe remember suffixes?
 
Oh crap wrong message...
 
10:40 PM
mmh I guess I can’t have auto&& rng@[ctx, from, to] = make_me_a_range(); until we have pattern matching
 
@JerryCoffin remember last time I thought those were some jokes up your ally? Here's another batch of inspirational reversals. imgur.com/gallery/oZJDT
 
I just discovered preprocessor abuse:
 
@LucDanton Oh. Those are perfectly cromulent RageContexts
 
#define RGB(R, G, B) R, G, B... void n_flash(uint8_t n, RGB(uint8_t r, uint8_t g, uint8_t b), uint16_t high_duration, uint16_t low_duration) ... n_flash(6, RGB(255, 0, 0), 500, 100, 500);
I did not expect to be able to expand arguments using the preprocessor.
 
@wilx I'm impressed. I'd never hit my target hanging off a cliff
 
10:45 PM
But it's a bit pointless because it's more typing anyways
 
@sehe they get a bit one-sided later on :(
 
user1804599
11:05 PM
> Attackers may try to uncover vulnerable versions of an implementation from its metadata. Thus, ZMTP sends metadata after security handshaking.
 
user1804599
> Attackers can use the simple presence or absence of traffic to collect information about the peer ("Person X has come on line"). Thus, on an encrypted connection, the peer SHOULD send random garbage data ("noise") when there is no other traffic. To fully mask traffic, a peer MAY throttle messages so there is no visible difference between noise and real data.
 
They impregnated each other.
 
Thanks for explaining the joke :P
 
np :P
always glad if I can bring clarity to the room
 
11:16 PM
> Boredom (n.): 1. The feeling one gets during inactivity, which causes them to contemplate the futility of life and long for distractions in the form of activity
 
user1804599
I am bored
 
> idx[as_const(std::ptrdiff_t {})]
woops
 
posted on June 30, 2016 by Herb Sutter

On June 25, the ISO C++ committee completed its summer meeting in Oulu, Finland, hosted by Symbio and the Finnish national body. We again had some 100 experts officially representing nine national bodies. As usual, we met for six days Monday through Saturday, and around the clock from 8:30am till 11pm most days – evening […]

 
fav if you're a hacker who looks like this irl https://t.co/IpCqkjLdTj
/cc @sehe
 
Ben
I've got unresolved linker symbols for Windows NT LSA API functions, even though I followed the documentation to link to secur32.lib. I'll probably write a full question on stackoverflow soon.
its annoying, all I want to do is show application windows on a active user's desktop from a service.
 
11:35 PM
Services doing UI is a dumb idea
hth
 
@Borgleader I always wear a thick blue hoodie with a hood deep enough no one can see my face when I go outside.
 
Ben
@CatPlusPlus oh yeah, but there is a good reason behind this.
 
No there isn't
 
Ben
@CatPlusPlus that you know of.
 
There might be a reason, but it's not good
Make the UI a normal user application that talks to the service
Don't create UI inside the service
 
Ben
11:46 PM
@CatPlusPlus Its because I am extending SSH.
 
And...
 
Ben
@CatPlusPlus application UI's are invisible when, for example, with launching notepad in a SSH session.
 
mmmh, getting bit by the decay in requires(Params params) param lists, makes array not pass a concept
 
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