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10:00 AM
Or were you making a joke
 
@GregorMcGregor he means the sharia law
 
@Rerito That's not true, but it's a lot harder to argue against a full ban across the board.
 
Conscription, or drafting, is the compulsory enlistment of people in a national service, most often a military service. Conscription dates back to antiquity and continues in some countries to the present day under various names. The modern system of near-universal national conscription for young men dates to the French Revolution in the 1790s, where it became the basis of a very large and powerful military. Most European nations later copied the system in peacetime, so that men at a certain age would serve 1–8 years on active duty and then transfer to the reserve force. In China, the State of Qin...
 
@chmod666telkitty Morocco master race
 
10:03 AM
Work from home while constructing new kitchen. Saved by UPS again :)
@LucDanton Let me think about that one
 
@chmod666telkitty lol, Western Sahara.
 
The legal drinking age is, in practice, the minimum age by which you should get drunk at least once.
 
so basically if you have to serve the military because it's compulsory after high school, there is a chance you need to serve the army but can not drink because you are still underage
 
@sehe do you really work if you're constructing your kitchen
 
Kitchen construction > work
 
10:09 AM
@Mr.kbok We both do. Wife is also working from home. And I'll be on a job interview later
 
What if an exception is thrown while the kitchen is being constructed
 
I just went and flipped the ground switch back on
 
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Fuck exceptions (and therefore, fuck constructors).
 
kitchen is unwound, starting with the dishwasher
 
@sehe but I mean, if you're working on your kitchen you're not really working on your work?
 
10:10 AM
Circuit differential protection or whatever it's called
@Mr.kbok I'm not. It's being done :| It's better for everyone involved
 
even if you hire someone to do your kitchen, you need time to supervise the tradesman
I made that mistake a few times
 
Who says I don't spend any time
 
And by supervise, Telkitty means annoy. Imagine being supervised by Telkitty.
 
I even spent time to supervise kitty grammar
 
> As an American I'm embarrassed that you seem to support a country where you have to swear allegiance to a royal family.
 
10:12 AM
@sehe You're the sehe of all trades <3
 
yes this is about the UK
 
pot <-> kettle
 
Slytherin all the way.
 
@sehe it’s not weird if you assume everybody else does it
 
user1804599
What was this proposed value-or-error template for C++ called?
 
user1804599
10:14 AM
Was it expected?
 
I swear all the time
Why not on the royal family too
 
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@sehe Because that's prohibited by law.
 
Xeo
@Elyse think so
 
@sehe oh, you're just looker over right
 
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@Xeo Luckily, googling "c++ expected" only yields questions about syntax errors.
 
10:15 AM
@Elyse yes
 
Xeo
@Elyse or maybe just expect
 
@Elyse google "std expected"
 
Hey, how is everyone?
 
user1804599
10:16 AM
Apart from the implicit conversions, that seems very nice.
 
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@R.MartinhoFernandes 11799 stars
 
user1804599
That's unusual for this kind of stuff.
 
It's awesome.
 
user1804599
kumar_asshole.py doesn't SSH into any server.
 
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10:18 AM
I feel scammed.
 
probably fake
 
rename to elyse_believed_the_hype.py
 
> opens an SSH session to our coffee-machine
sounds very plausible
 
still was funny the first time I read it
 
10:20 AM
The coffee machine is running LCARS from Star Trek.
 
I have been making a picture a day to try & get myself unbanned on meta
 
@GregorMcGregor it's "based on the story" just for laffs
 
@chmod666telkitty Can't wait until they ban you everywhere. <3
 
@ElimGarak Tough love <3
 
wow the star count increases in real time
 
10:24 AM
Has any one used Hadoop or have experience with Big Data?
 
Yes I routinely use 128 bit integers
 
user1804599
I want const(auto).
 
@Mr.kbok yup. It would be bad if I tried to intervene
 
Big Data are those companies that have a conspiracy to make profit with your data.
Analogous with Big Pharma, Big News, or Big Zinc.
 
:D
 
10:27 AM
there’s a program that turns water into data but they killed the coder
 
you are a number, just like me, please don't make yourself feel too special
 
OCD q: what format should I pick as default: 1.2m or 1.2 m?
Space or no space.
 
What is "m"?
 
metres
 
Xeo
no space in any case
 
10:29 AM
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Q: Punctuation with units

Vaibhav GargI remember reading somewhere that if a unit is abbreviated as one character, there must not be a space between the number and the unit (e.g., 5m, 26K). If the unit is abbreviated as two or more Characters, there must be a space between the number and the unit (e.g., "10 km", "USD 5"). Can you p...

 
@R.MartinhoFernandes, actually my question is, from what I've read, is they essentially split the data up into small chunks and have different servers/nodes do the processing. So can Big Data (in this manner) work on a single server or is the term "big data" more associated with distrubted systms
 
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Q: Should I put a space between a number and its unit?

TomasNo too much more to say. \( 2.63\si\ohm \) looks odd. But it might be the correct way. \( 2.64\,\si\ohm \) looks much better IMO. What about the \,? Sould it be bigger, smaller or there is no really a convention for that? Thanks.

 
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Q: Stalking, bullying and downvoting on Stack overflow related sites

chmod 666 telkittyLately I have noticed something that concerns me - that some regulars on chats actively stalk and downvote certain other users' questions/answers. While 'stalking' itself is harmless enough - well if you post on a public website, you want your writings to be read. Whether it is guided from the ...

lol
 
so yes there's a space with a few exceptions
 
@GregorMcGregor nice links thank you sir, did not think of that.
 
10:30 AM
@JohanLarsson Put a non-breaking space if possible.
 
what is that in C#?
ty ty
 
\u00A0
&nbsp; in HTML.
lol, that edit
 
that was weird
 
You guys are great but you already know it.
 
upvote all of our answers as a token of moderate gratitude
 
10:34 AM
Bikeshedding in progress. Please wear helmets.
 
I like how the official recommendation to use non-breaking spaces gives a fallback for systems where non-breaking spaces don't exist.
The recommendation is to break lines at thousand separators.
> And then we found 9274
532 m of cable under the
blankets.
 
not this easy still not a problem
 
9'2'7'4'5'3'2_m much more easier to read, thanks C++
 
@JohanLarsson It's the greek letter omega. No surprise.
 
yep I know
 
10:38 AM
There's U+2126 OHM SIGN but don't use it.
 
What is A-z called btw? Latin?
 
Robert
 
(Still counts as a letter + it's just a historical compatibility artifact)
 
@JohanLarsson it’s not called anything
Latin script, at best.
 
Robert
TIL about tmpfile/tmpnam
 
10:41 AM
@LucDanton "Latin alphabet" is like "Extended ASCII"
 
this should work.
 
What are you trying to do?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes hey I found this
 
OMG THAT IS AWESOME
Also, hmm, is it ok that I am that excited about some word existing?
 
10:47 AM
Did I ever come up with a name for autological pairs as this one? I think not.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Adding formatting capabilities for the units lib
 
@JohanLarsson How does being a Latin letter matter?
 
Just for the name of the method
 
Sep 18 at 13:42, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@sehe I was looking for a word to describe words that can't be classified as exactly one of heterological or autological. Came up with paralogical. "heterological" is paralogical. "paralogical" is heterological. Then I got stuck trying to find one word to describe this pair of words that describe each other, and came up with "co-autological".
 
Well, then why are a-z special?
 
10:48 AM
In the link it said no space between 1Ω, if I read it correctly
 
@LucDanton Not quite the same. I mean the fact that the the K-P swap suggests they're antonyms.
SHIT I'm going to be stuck again, am I not?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh I missed that then
 
read it wrongly :)
 
So even German has no space before compound punctuation?
rip
vive le frense !
 
@GregorMcGregor they call it French spacing
not rest of the world spacing
 
10:49 AM
@JohanLarsson whistles
@JohanLarsson Beware, though.
The exceptions are the units for degree, minute, and second of arc.
 
If you feel like reading some C# an unicode review would be much appreciated.
But not ready for that yet.
 
I can tolerate C#
 
That doesn't meant the symbols °, ′, and ″!
 
@LucDanton Cultural appropriation!
 
It's "1°" for "one degree of arc", but it's "1 °C" for "one degree Celsius", even though both use "°".
Don't just do a naive check.
 
10:52 AM
ouch
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 1°C surely... Shirley...
@GregorMcGregor why would anyone put a space before punctuation?
 
Because the grammar (typographic rules?) says so?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes plain antonymic really is the more alluring option here; it’s not like it’s spelt 'Klemp?' or 'Klemp ?'
 
@thecoshman No. The only exceptions are made pretty clear: "unit symbols for degree, minute, and second for plane angle"
There's no margin for misinterpretation there.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what about denial?
 
10:57 AM
lol
 
Even if you group it as "(degree), (minute), and (second for plane angle)" instead of the correct "(degree, minute, and second) for plane angle", "degree" is unambiguously the unit of plane angle, since the unit of temperature is not named "degree", but "degree Celsius". Under that mistaken interpretation only "minute" is ambiguous.
 
Funny that even % should take a space
 
Nothingtakesaspace,thisismadness!
@R.MartinhoFernandes wow, I like how even old news can get up on the starboard :\
s/like/hate/
 
@Borgleader Awwww
 
@TonyTheLion The one on the left is jealous of the one on the right.
That's because everybody wants Tony :D
 
11:08 AM
<3
 
Hmpf.
Can anybody remember the video conversion/processing utility that used text data-flow like scripts for its input? Something like avfilter or avidecode or such.
I cannot remember.
And you could do all sorts of operations with it.
My point is that I want to use its ability to use Windows' video decoders.
I need to recode video in Microsoft Application Screen Decoder 1 format to something more useful. I can already play the video in Windows Media Player but tools like Handbreak won't decode it.
Avisynth?
 
Just noticed that Gordon is no longer an SO mod.
 
Can't seem to find a room dedicated to standard C, would it be kay if i ask a quick question in here? :-)
 
@Dream_Reaper The rules say that it's likey to be unwelcome.
 
@wilx gstreamer (used in many setups, like ogmrip)
I use vlc for one-time transcoding tasks
 
11:15 AM
@sehe I doubt it can decode the Microsoft Application Screen Decoder 1 format.
At least VLC cannot.
 
@wilx Wouldn't that depend on the config? Anyways, gstreamer certainly has the most plugins. (good, bad, ugly etc.)
 
@Morwenn. Thanks, didn't even see the rules section till now, i'll make a new question on the main site, have a nice day!
 
@Dream_Reaper Thanks, you too :)
 
@Jefery 14
 
16 here
 
11:23 AM
So, they've been selling computers on TV and the ad goes roughly like: "Buy a super computer for $500." inb4 super usage
 
a supercomputer or a super computer
 
17 hours ago, by Cat Plus Plus
I'm so not going to get a driver's license
 
my computer is just super, you know
 
17 hours ago, by Cat Plus Plus
I prefer to zone out in bus/tram/train/whatever
I prefer this thing I tried to this thing I haven't ever done.
 
I see the Bartek-Cat Great War is still raging.
 
11:25 AM
I prefer living in the white house to living on the ISS.
 
WHY WONT YOU LIKE THINGS I LIKE
 
@sehe My Roland is rather satisfying. It won't ever be like a real piano, but it's good enough.
 
I mean seriously what the fuck
 
You guise need to take the Lounge a lil' bit less serious...ly
 
it's not about lounge
it's about bad opinions
wait.
 
11:28 AM
> It's about opinions.
 
You're boring as fuck
 
'nough said.
 
But in the end, opinions don't really matter. So just let it go and enjoy whatever you enjoy. :D If Cat were your boss, I guess his opinions would reflect poorly on you, but as it stands now, you're safe.
 
Can't believe I just had to review code citing "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
 
And I really don't need to sit one chair to the left to know what driving a car requires
 
11:29 AM
@CatPlusPlus it's not about liking, it's about not understanding yet still shitposting
 
lol "understanding"
 
@CatPlusPlus see there's where your ignorance comes into play
 
You're a ridiculous nerd
 
said a fucking cat on the internet
 
Ignorance about what
And this is the last fucking time I get into this bullshit
 
11:30 AM
Guise <3
 
Ignorance about driving requiring full attention of the driver?
I mean what the fuck are you even talking about
NO NO YOU WONT KNOW UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY DRIVE
jesus fucking christ
 
calm down m8
it's just cars
 
Fuck you
Forever
 
Don't worry, Cat, I'll drive your ass to Bartek so you guys can have it out <3
 
@CatPlusPlus got'cha
 
11:32 AM
ITS JUST CARS THIS IS WHY IM BOTHERING YOU WITH THIS SEVENTEEN FUCKING HOURS LATER
 
@cat to be fair, you can't say you don't like something until you have tried it, you can think you will not like it, or dislike the idea of it.
@CatPlusPlus for one, not sitting on the street, silly EU cars being all wrong
 
@thecoshman Pedantry that's useful only to nerds that want everyone to like what they like
 
@CatPlusPlus wanna talk about how you feel about that?
 
It's o b v i o u s that I don't even want to try because it requires things I'm neither willing nor probably able to do, I said as much
 
11:34 AM
@CatPlusPlus admit that you only dislike the idea of driving and accept you could be wrong if you tried it, and he'd stfu, please say it, let him stfu
 
Focusing on that one fucking qualifier is nothing more than a shitty derailment tactic and I will not indulge
 
sometimes I drive, looking at map & sending a bunch of messages - all on one trip, not stop at curb, nothing
 
On the other hand, you can still drive and not like it.
 
@Morwenn ofc
 
How can I be wrong when I already said I prefer to zone out instead of being at full attention, regardless of anything else
This is not dependent on driving previously or not
 
11:36 AM
driving can be boring, especially when you have no one else in your car & there are a lot of traffic lights
 
oh well, you forgot that bartek is an amazing driver who doesn't need to pay attention to the road
 
I visit this chat sometimes when I am stuck in the traffic
 
What I find about the idea of driving is that it's so boring that I'm bound to zone out
 
@CatPlusPlus what if it turns out otherwise
you might even like it
 
But noooo MUH CARS IS GRAET NEED TO FAST
 
11:37 AM
or are you incapable of liking doing something
 
Fucking annoying bullshit
 
Think of driving as putting distance between you and Bartek.
4
 
@wilx what was that?
 
Don't worry, I'm not unignoring him this time around
 
IT IS DONE
 
11:38 AM
Enough of that nonsense
 
vengeance is best served cold
 
@thecoshman AviSynth is a tool, frame server. I am trying to use it to transcode some video and to add audio to it.
 
and that annoying asshat has been on me for so long
feels good to see him angry
 
I kinda expected the poles to get along here
 
Virtualdub uses VfW codecs, you don't need AviSynth to just recode
I have poor willpower and started buying early access games again
 
11:39 AM
@ElimGarak arguing is our national sport
 
rip me
 
Are they any good?
 
he said 'early access'
so no
 
They're playable for the most part
 
11:41 AM
I gave up on any expectations
 
that's crazy
 
@orlp Turns out that it doesn't have sata port like I first thought
 
Infinite Early Access is the modern game dev MO. Some are delusional enough to call their games done.
 
@ElimGarak 'done' is a lose term.
It's better to instead say 'tolerable' or 'good enough'
 
11:43 AM
'not (?utter) shit'
 
@BartekBanachewicz Wasn't Pole's national sport to raise bears bought in Iran and prepare them for war?
 
Famous people have said that same about art, you never finish a painting, you just reach a point you are willing to let it go.
 
@thecoshman I think this is pretty cool for the hobbyist embedded world though
 
We should've skipped EA
Probably
 
@orlp sure
 
11:44 AM
Yeah, and went right into Ubisoft
 
And also get a contract with a publisher
 
@CatPlusPlus maybe
 
This indie thing is highly overrated
 
picking up sales yet?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't even
 
11:44 AM
@CatPlusPlus well, indie dev is cool, but indie publishing is just pain
 
We dropped the price a little and also added a discount for the current sale so we'll see
 
what do you get from indie publishing? a bit more control over shit?
 
More money
 
You have to put so much effort into it though
 
You get more than 30% on top of what Steam takes. But you get publisher moneys to make shit.
 
11:45 AM
Otherwise it's publisher cut, Steam cut, taxes and you get less than half
 
I'd rather have 20% of a million sales, then 100% of five
 
We're talking with some publishers about new games
 
ofc, if you are willing to stick it out until the game becomes popular, then great
 
But funding is a double-edged sword because yet again working on someone else's schedule and whims
 
Depends on the contract
 
11:47 AM
Sometimes you have to bend over to pick the good stuff up.
 
I think good publishers would be willing to accept some delays if it's for worth while improvements
@ElimGarak or to take a good fucking
 
Yeah but I'm kinda doing this games thing to not work for anyone else
Otherwise I already have a job for that
 
Not having to look at other people (you can't fire) is good self-employment motivation.
 
oh, you support linux now
I might just pay up for it
I like how you need on 1GB storage, but 4GB ram :P
 
It probably needs less, but requirements testing eh
 
11:54 AM
Brought to you by the department of memory intensive apps you refuse to exit even though you last used them yesterday.
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's actually interesting that 5.0 has 23%, though.
My guess is that 5.1 will be a dead beat.
6.0 is out, will grow, and 5.1 will be a skipped upgrade for many, like Windows Vista.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I guess it might make sense to make 4 apps for 5.0 than one for all :P
 
repost :p
 
12:02 PM
wat
$5 for 1Ghz and 512MB RAM
seriously how can C not be dead yet
 
C?
 
C is a programming language jefery
 
Ell
Oh yeah sorry
 
Since when does C have a price, a frequency and an amount of RAM?
 
well, linux & unix drivers are still written in C ... mainly
windows & mac still use C in their core
 
12:04 PM
stop playing dumb
 
I'm dumb. Not playing.
 
@Ell Oooh, let me order one
 
You are dumb too for not recognizing how dumb I am
So there's that
BBL
 
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A: What Languages are Windows, Mac OS X and Linux written in?

Paul Betts Windows: C++, kernel is in C Mac: Objective C, kernel is in C (IO PnP subsystem is Embedded C++) Linux: Most things are in C, many userland apps are in Python, KDE is all C++

good luck trying to get rid of C
 
@BartekBanachewicz Same reason Android 4.4 isn't?
 
Ell
12:06 PM
I'm gonna order one
 
Will require quite a bit adapters, though
 
@ElimGarak Nah, just one.
It doesn't have that many ports.
 
Well, miniHDMI and two microUSB ones.
 
One of them is for power, so no adapter needed.
 
android is written in java, java JVM is written in C
so if you want write kernel, learn C
looks like you will have a hard time getting rid of C
 
12:10 PM
lol, kernel.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah, just noticed they offer the Essentials kit as well. Will clock in at 16GBP.
 
@ElimGarak Yep, that's what I paid for mine with HDMI adapter, GPIO header, and case.
 
Lookin' good, ordering.
 
looks awfully great ... but ... what can I do with it?
 
12:12 PM
I got it from Pimoroni.
More compact case.
Less pin headers, but I already have those by the kilo.
 
what fun stuff can you do with it?
 
Ell
I ordered only the pi itself :3
 
Edgy Ell
 
@chmod666telkitty The exact reason hy I never buy such things :/
 
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@Elyse, there is no "authoritative reference" (I guess I could have quoted my own books, "authoritative" just by being best-sellers, but, how exactly would that help?-) -- so, in your world (what color is its sky?), would the world have been a better place if this question had been left unanswered, since NO "authoritative reference" exists?! My old friend and colleague the effbot had effbot.org/pyfaq/… -- but he now tags it as out of date, and, anyway, why's the effbot any more authoritative than the martellibot?-) How sad...! — Alex Martelli 12 hours ago
 
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12:16 PM
I sense butthurt.
 
Ell
I need to order headers anyway
What pitch are they? 2mm?
Ah 2.54mm
 
wait so what's the difference between Cortex and ARM11
is ARM11 just the older model family?
from what I see they have Cortex-A listed as an alternative
beh, those big bulky CPUs are so complex
 
Ell
ARM11 is the instruction set I thought
 
no, it's a cpu family
you are thinking about ARMv7
 
Ell
12:26 PM
Yes you're right
 
programming is too complex
so many things to learn
too much for one lifetime
 
eh
 
user1804599
There are too few gay people in IT.
 
Woah, new 3x3x3 WR /cc @R.Martinho
damn youngsters lol
 
12:42 PM
@Elyse Do they have a special insight that hetero people don't? :P
 
So... it seems that the so-called exact actually performs more moves than it should. The description lied :o
 
@ElimGarak Yeah - they can set the +gay debugger option.
 
I guess that I'll have to devise a working one by myself then, but I hardly see how to do so without O(n) memory.
 
Ell
> coqdoc
 
Ven
Clojure, Scala, Smalltalk, J, Common Lisp, Nodejs. what should I use?
 
12:50 PM
No idea, but I guess it's hard to tell without knowing what for
 
user1804599
@Ven Scala.
 
Ven
Each of these is a different project
 
user1804599
Scala is the only one of those that has a useful type system.
 
@AndyProwl I think those WR should be average of 3 or something
 
@BartekBanachewicz I think there are two separate rankings, one with average and one for single solves
not sure though
 
Ell
I don't think that is the sentiment the article is portraying
 
Hint: he's a troll
 
@AndyProwl @R.MartinhoFernandes did you see that some guy live-streamed himself making a 22x22x22 cube. Then he tried to do the first spin on it, thing exploded apart :P
 
Not seen :)
 
@thecoshman see the part where that was 7 months in the making, and this is attempt #2, the first of which also exploded
 
12:59 PM
I was thinking
 

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