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6:02 PM
ah fucknuggets, LLVM undefined reference errors.
 
Ell
@Puppy how's cracking sha-512 going?
 
it was sha-256
and I don't have enough RAM to continue work in that area
 
working on it
awww fuck.
only fixed the one test I was working on, didn't fix any other tests with the fixes I made.
oh well, progress I guess.
 
@FredOverflow my cpu is too slow, do you have a website to download more Ghz too?
 
user1804599
6:09 PM
> Syntax highlighting is a feature of text editors that are used for programming or scripting languages, such as HTML.
 
user1804599
lol
 
user1804599
wikipedia
 
@MarcoA. You can't download GHz, silly.
 
the art of dark souls is great
it looked good in the artbook but here it's even better
what kind of depressed mind can output such hideous things
 
user1804599
LocalDate or Local_Date or Local_date or LOCAL_DATE or local_date for type names? I can't decide.
 
user1804599
6:11 PM
They're all ugly.
 
user1804599
Especially the third one.
 
local-date
 
@FredOverflow Yes you can (but you need a really high-bandwidth connection).
 
user1804599
:O
 
@рытфолд: Use Local_Date. It looks like Ada. I like.
 
Ell
6:13 PM
@рытфолд edit it
 
Hm...
 
user1804599
lol
 
The new PC I would buy would cost me roughly 1200 EUR. That seems too much. :(
 
6:14 PM
nice Vulkan ears
@wilx Off the shelf or self-composed?
 
Ell
@рытфолд where is that from?
 
@FredOverflow Self composed.
 
Ell
:wiki syntax highlighting
 
Does anyone have a general rule of thumb to decide whether to protect a question or not? I usually protect questions that aren't too "specific" and have >3000 views
 
@wilx You're probably spending too much money on graphics card and large SDD.
 
user1804599
6:16 PM
@Ell Wikipedia.
 
Ell
how do you do the wikipedia onebox?
 
Just post the wikipedia link.
 
@FredOverflow lol, yes. 500 GiB SSD. :)
 
Ell
Syntax highlighting is a feature of text editors that are used for programming or markup languages, such as HTML. The feature displays text, especially source code, in different colors and fonts according to the category of terms. This feature facilitates writing in a structured language such as a programming language or a markup language as both structures and syntax errors are visually distinct. Highlighting does not affect the meaning of the text itself; it is intended only for human readers. Syntax highlighting is a form of secondary notation, since the highlights are not part of the text meaning...
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
6:16 PM
But I'm unsatisfied.
 
@wilx What a terrible waste of money. 120 GB should be enough.
 
user1804599
It's kinda ugly.
 
@FredOverflow I agree. You should probably not need more than like 120-250GB of SSD. 500GB is way more than you'll need.
 
@рытфолд Lasagna script?
 
user1804599
@FredOverflow I play games that are over 30 GB in size.
 
Ell
6:17 PM
unless you just use the ssd as your primary single drive
 
user1804599
If you have many such games, 120 GB is reached quickly.
 
Ell
500GB ssd isn't that expensive any more I don't think
 
Whatever you do, don't buy a 60GB SSD
 
user1804599
I have a 500 GB SSD at work and only 9 GB is used.
 
user1804599
And it's the only drive in my PC.
 
6:19 PM
inb4 no OS installed
 
user1804599
Gentoo.
 
user1804599
Which is less than a handful of gigabytes.
 
user1804599
And which I will also install on my soon to be game PC.
 
user1804599
Has anyone got experience with gaming on Windows running in a VM?
 
@MarcoA. I usually don't even consider it until/unless I see at least one answer that really needs to be deleted.
 
6:20 PM
why place games on an SSD
loading times are just fine with hard disks too
@рытфолд don't
 
user1804599
Why not?
 
my GPU wasn't even recognized properly in the windows VM
 
@рытфолд I prefer games that are about 30kb in size ;)
 
> VMs, by definition cannot use the actual graphics hardware. It's being used by the host so the guest cant use it too. That's just how it works. You can get better performance by installing the directx additions though.
 
Last time, about 5 years ago, this PC costed me about 25000 CZK which is roughly 900 EUR, including Windows 7 license. I guess things could be cut down to go lower, including the SSD size. Well, I do not have even 25000 CZK to spare now. :)
 
6:22 PM
7
A: Run Windows inside a virtual machine on Linux for gaming

BroScienceVMs, by definition cannot use the actual graphics hardware. It's being used by the host so the guest cant use it too. That's just how it works. You can get better performance by installing the directx additions though. You will need to install DirectX as an add-on for virtualbox for it to work, ...

srsly just don't
run Windows and dual boot, it's not that bad
I think I'll always keep a HDD around to install games on
I just don't see a loading time of 10 seconds vs 15 seconds like that much of an improvement
120GB for work and OS - SSD
at least 500GB for games and shit
 
user1804599
I can run Gentoo in a VM.
 
You may just as well buy 1TB or 2TB of HDD space, the upgrade does not cost a lot.
 
I think I'm going to buy an iPhone 5c with 8GB of memory.
 
Ell
@AlexM. this ain't right
 
@Jefffrey with only 6GB usable?
 
6:28 PM
yup
 
that would be enough for me, dunno about you tho
 
user1804599
What encoding should I use for strings internally?
 
@AlexM. When I built my pc ~3 yrs ago, I got a 128GB SSD and a 500GB HDD. Ran out of space on both.
 
@AlexM. I don't do photos or videos and my interest for game apps is asymptotically going towards 0. The only thing I would need is 2, maximum 4 GB for the music I want to listen that month.
 
user1804599
Ok so this will be my setup:
 
Ell
6:30 PM
how do I title stuff.
 
:21289435 The other way.
You switched the parenthesis.
 
user1804599
Overpowered PC running Windows 8, with Gentoo in VMware Workstation.
 
@рытфолд UTF-8
 
user1804599
@FredOverflow OK!
 
user1804599
That makes for memcpy encoding/decoding as UTF-8, and UTF-8 is very commonly used.
 
6:31 PM
@Borgleader Too bad you can't upgrade hard drives!
 
Ell
@рытфолд RFC 1557
@Jefffrey cheers bro
 
@FredOverflow I did, I now have a 1TB HDD, my point was, he's probably gonna run into the same problem, so he should get bigger ones from the start.
 
I'm ok with 120 + 500
right now I have ~100 GB left on the hdd
 
I'm not ok with 60 + 1000
 
and that's just because FF XIII takes 60 :A
 
6:35 PM
@Borgleader Why? So he doesn't say "I wish I had bought a 1TB HDD from the start instead of a 500GB HDD" on his deathbed?
 
@FredOverflow So he doesn't say "I wish I'd bought a 1TB HDD from the start, now I have to buy one anyway and I payed for the 500GB"
It's cheaper in the long run D:
 
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Q: Java Game not rendering properly

user50369Hello I have a game that you can play(duh). When you start the game a loading screen pops up and on the loading screen I display an image of an eye I drew. In paint.net they eye looks perfect but in game it dose not. Here is the image in paint.net: Here is the image in game: I don't under...

lol dat question and those comments
 
connect three of them disks then
 
> It ships with 4.9GB available to users
 
@Borgleader I guess everybody has to decide for themselves how much HDD space they actually need.
 
6:36 PM
Hmm.
 
My need dropped dramatically when I stopped hoarding YouTube videos.
 
@Jefffrey so 5GB out of 8?
 
That's dangerously near the edge.
They just have to ship a more transparent OS and I'm fucked.
Why isn't iTunes showing me how much GB of music do I have.
 
@AlexM. I don't see the difference in the images?
 
The fucking twats had to redesign this motherfucker too?
 
6:37 PM
nvm I figured it out — user50369 1 hour ago
 
@FredOverflow forget the images
 
Well, that clears things up...
 
@AlexM. reminded me of this i.stack.imgur.com/xAbyu.jpg
 
What the hell is going on
 
the comments
byte are u still working on that goblin game it looked pretty cool on your site — user50369 1 hour ago
lol
 
6:39 PM
@FredOverflow True, but afaik he plays a lot of games, and those do tend to get bigger over time.
 
@Borgleader The same game from year n gets bigger over time, or games from year n+1 are bigger than games from year n?
 
both (former: updates/dlc/high res texture packs, latter: higher quality assets mostly)
 
Well, most games I play fit on an SNES cartridge, so I don't really care ;)
 
o.o
 
user1804599
I only play games from the Metal Gear series, Minecraft and Factorio.
 
user1804599
6:43 PM
And soon Portal 2.
 
Oh man, Portal 2 was so good
 
user1804599
And they all don't fit on a SNES cartridge apart from perhaps Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake.
 
user1804599
Oh I also want to get Carmageddon.
 
@Borgleader Although this made me want to play DOOM again:
 
22 hours ago, by Borgleader
Don't Forget: @MythBusters Tackles @DOOM Tonight! http://bit.ly/1ClSpAN
I was not able to watch it sadly :(
@FredOverflow Never played Doom, too young.
 
6:46 PM
Just solved Problem 500
 
I think I was < 5 yrs old when it came out
 
It's funny, this problem is much easier than 499
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun Problem 501: How do you prevent sitting on your balls.
 
@Borgleader ;_;
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun What problem 500? Project Euler?
 
6:49 PM
@FredOverflow Yeah! I can't submit my answer yet though, the problems page is down :<
OH WAIT IT'S UP
 
@Borgleader Honestly, it's a pretty terrible game.
notable only for the technical advances (much like every other iD game I've ever played)
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun Is 500 the last one?
 
@FredOverflow 500 and 501 were released simultaneously
 
I think I never made it past problem #10 or something before I got bored :-D
 
user1804599
I think Perl 5 has beautiful syntax.
 
6:52 PM
dont you love it when your program refuses to reproduce a crash in gdb
 
language?
 
undefined behaviour language
 
Is that a language I could use to get women?
 
@Borgleader Doom mods are great
 
daj
hello
 
6:57 PM
@FredOverflow x-- usually
depends what it is though
 
user1804599
Hello, @daj!
 
daj
haven't tried this before, is this like irc?
 
@FredOverflow I have played a lot of Doom back when I was young. These days, it induces nausea in me.
 
This is a dating chat
 
Ell
6:58 PM
@daj in that it's chat :P
 
@daj lo lya
aslpls
 
I'm currently attempting to get into rightfold's undergarments
 
> The bullet passed through his father's buttock and hit his mother, who is eight months pregnant, in the arm. Both parents are said to be recovering.
Yep carry a loaded gun in your handbag when you are pregnant and walking around with your three-year old son and two-year old daughter. That makes sense.
 
user1804599
@daj No.
 
user1804599
Unlike IRC, this is shit.
 
daj
6:59 PM
lol
for years I thought irc was almost-dead and then I discovered freenet and it seems like there are still active channels there.
 
Yippee! First try!
 
daj
what is that a mooc?
 
I knacked my cruckles.
 
@daj y u no google
 
user1804599
@daj It's Project Boringler.
 
7:05 PM
Hmm, when foo is an array, how do I force it to decay to pointer to first element?
 
&foo[0]
 
user1804599
template<typename T>
T* haha(T* x) { return x; }
 
user1804599
Or T* haha = myArray;.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol. They got of light!
 
user1804599
Or [&] { return myArray; }().
 
7:06 PM
@wilx Don't?
 
Lightness Races in Getting Of
 
just don't use native arrays.
 
user1804599
Or std::begin(myArray).
 
user1804599
Or can that use non-pointer iterators?
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit people are so frickin' stupid
 
7:06 PM
@Puppy Well, I want to pass the pointer as iterator...
 
user1804599
(which'd be nice for bounds checking)
 
std::begin (also use std::array instead...)
 
user1804599
@wilx Then use std::begin for documenting intent.
 
Ell
@wilx just take the address of it or use std::begin
 
@рытфолд Yeah, std::begin sounds the best. Thanks.
 
7:08 PM
@wilx It'll automatically decay when you pass it in.
 
@Rapptz It will not if the parameter is a template type parameter. It will deduce array reference.
 
No it won't.
 
Hahaha xD
 
@рытфолд I was once suggested to use begin without std:: so that in a more general context, ADL can do its job.
 
user1804599
7:12 PM
Use std::begin regardless.
 
user1804599
Or don't be a noob and use std::array and .begin.
 
@Borgleader heh
video would be better
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No because it would be blocked in your country (where your country is any country that's not the US)
 
@Borgleader not really
hang on.. that video doesn't work -.-
bah
found another one and you're right
user image
5
fuck you you colonial wankshafts
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit i was speaking from experience, its not the first time i try to watch colbert on the nets
 
7:17 PM
what confused and offensive message do you get?
 
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit nice
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol @ that message
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit If that's offensive to you then you wouldn't like the show anyway.
 
user1804599
Where is it from?
 
user1804599
7:18 PM
I want to see what it says to Dutch people.
 
@Rapptz oh stop taking everything so literally gees
@рытфолд mediaite.com/tv/…
 
Ell
I would not want to move to america
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Never know with you bub.
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit actually, I think you mean figuratively
 
@Rapptz although no I don't really - I think Colbert's a bit of a prick
 
user1804599
7:18 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol works for me
 
@Rapptz actually, yes, you've known me long enough that you should do by now :P
@рытфолд needs moar monarchy
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That's part of his character. He pretends to be a republican and what not.
 
In reality he isn't that bad to warrant being a 'prick'.
 
It's literally no different from you people calling me names because you don't like the character I play in the Lounge.
Hypocrite.
Nice to hear you've managed to meet him in reality, though! Where was it?
 
7:20 PM
k
 
user1804599
As usual, the humour is nonexistent.
 
thanks for at least spelling it correctly ^_^
 
user1804599
I only use American English in code and documentation.
 
user1804599
I think code and documentation should be together in the same file.
 
user1804599
And as much of the documentation must be verified mechanically as possible.
 
user1804599
7:22 PM
Unit tests can function nicely as documentation.
 
have you guys heard of Kendra Sutherland?
 
user1804599
No.
 
it's not bad
girl's got game
 
7:24 PM
@TonyTheLion saw that on reddit yesterday
 
I missed that on reddit
 
didnt read the article to know what law she broke doing that
 
land of the free mate
 
probably public indecency
 
@Borgleader the law against masturbation in college, presumably
 
user1804599
7:26 PM
@TonyTheLion I watched it on xHamster.
 
user1804599
lol someone downvoted my goto question
 
@рытфолд its probably gonna get a ton more views now
 
Ell
I saw it on 4chan
 
Do whatever you want to keep your sanity. Even if that means using zero-width spaces or unicode minuses. That rule is dumb and everyone knows it. Even moderators are using work-arounds. — Mysticial 27 secs ago
 
7:32 PM
not as easy to bypass now
 
@bolov: Why can you ask a guy's age but not a girl's? You're so sexist! — Lightness Races in Orbit 6 secs ago
meant to write this ages ago
 
i am going to write bad code and there is nothing anyone can do about it
 
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit what a moron
 
@Pris including you
 
7:39 PM
i can always pretend it isn't terrible :D
 
for the avoidance of doubt:
@Mysticial: The zero-width spaces don't work any more (it happened at this point, at the same time as a request to remove the block entirely was made status-completed, which is a massive LOL). Long hyphens do though. — Lightness Races in Orbit 6 mins ago
Shog got in a massive tissy over my calling him out on that
He seems very defensive over this feature for some reason
Meanwhile I've just been reading about issues with the gamification inherent in SO, then went on gamedev or somewhere and saw a title "Kill a player" and my first thought was that someone was asking for the ability to murder SE users
Pillarian slip, I suppose
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
 
Ell
Why don't you just explain the downvote without the -1?
 
We can
Shouldn't have to
So your argument is that we should force everyone to write "+1"/"-1" out "in full"? Wow. Yes that is how the internet has worked so far. Everybody uses the longest possible means of communicating something. Lol. — Lightness Races in Orbit Jan 18 at 18:28
 
Ell
But I mean, why do you like putting -1 anyway?
 
7:45 PM
Isn't it obvious?
People keep asking "why the downvote" so let's tell them?
 
and that's the quickest, least noisy way to do it
ooh I should answer it
 
@wilx lolwut
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No, I get that
 
Someone change their name to something offensive and answer that question.
 
Ell
7:47 PM
I'm saying tell them why you downvoted
just without the "-1"
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit is a pretty hilarious name for a kid, maybe he should answer
 
Ell
what does telling them you downvoted gain you anyway?
 
It's about gain for them, not for us
They want to know why they got downvoted
If you just tell them some information about their post they will have no idea that it's linked to their downvote and is therefore a direct criticism of the post
 
it tells them they have to listen to us!
 
it's a courtesy, basicall
y
 
user1804599
7:50 PM
Perl is so goddamn nice.
 
@рытфолд 5 or 6? Or both?
 
alright
 
user1804599
@wilx both.
 
anyone want to lend me a hand with some LLVM IR? I can't see why it's not correct.
 
7:52 PM
neither
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit But you criticising their post will show them that people have a reason to downvote, won't it?
therefore making them alter the post in order to not get downvotes
 
@Ell ... which is a good thing ......
so, yes, that's the purpose
 
Any way to count the numbers of the form p1*p2*p3 < N for 3 distinct primes? (Very large N, simple sieve won't work)
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit right exactly?
I don't get it :L
 
criticism without a downvote indicator is like "you could improve it by doing this", not like "this post is useless without such an improvement"
it's obvious mate
 
Ell
7:54 PM
they will alter their post whether you put "-1" or not
 
user1804599
@Puppy OK
 
@рытфолд pastebin.com/mm0HpxGh
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Isn't the downvote indicator implicit with the criticism?
 
@Ell No, they won't, and I just explained why.
@Ell No.
 
oh wait.
the destructor's not correct.
 
7:55 PM
"This post would be better if you explained X, Y, Z." <------- possible enhancement but no need
"-1: This post would be better if you explained X, Y, Z." <------ oh okay I better had then
 
it's alloca'd a redundant local and then tried to use that as this.
instead of accessing %0.
 
Ell
I guess
 
But both are better than Shog's ideal: "Dear sir; I sincerely hope that this missive finds you in good keeping. How are the tomatoes this year? I am writing to inform you that, with regret, I felt it necessary to submit a 'down rate' on your posting. The reasons are in fact three-fold but suffice it to say I feel that X, Y, Z would render your posting useful in a sense that, currently, it is not. All the best to you and Sarah, Lightness."
(from before: "oh okay I better had then" add "and also now I know who downvoted me so the mystery is gone and I'm not waiting to find out about A, B, C other, mystery criticism from a second user!")
Regardless, entirely banning -1 whether you agree with the above or not is simply fucking retarded, especially doing so without warning and without any community or colleague support whatsoever!
 
> How are the tomatoes this year?
C|N>K
 
7:59 PM
 

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