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3:00 PM
Both the OS, and paying for it, are well hidden.
 
@VáclavZeman I heard Yorke Litoris get's a good suckin' from time to time
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Which one of the two is virtual?
 
@MartinJames a rootkit that comes with a GUI
 
@nightcracker And gay women as well.
 
@nightcracker That and have you never sucked at partner's nipples? :)
 
3:01 PM
But I don't give a cunt suck. Later!
 
@VáclavZeman No :( (guess why)
 
@nightcracker I had anti-aliasing enabled..
Did you click on the image? Chat's resizing sucks.
 
@rubenvb well if the anti-aliasing is enabled then it must be buttes
 
It looks a lot like your screenshot here.
I still think it's ugly (why is the crossing of the t lower than the top of the r?)
 
@rubenvb A monospace font with ligatures :S
 
With ligatures that use one space.
:(
 
maybe it has custom bitmaps for small sizes, can you up the font size a few points?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hah, interesting.
 
That's evil.
 
3:04 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes doesn't happen for me
@rubenvb can you gist that snippet? too lazy to type
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes is that something funky? or just bad kerning?
 
I don't even want to mention the weird differences in size between those different letters. The ligature is terrible enough.
 
Hmm I'm using the Apple version
 
wtf string_vector? who wrote that shit?
 
@nightcracker Gist a picture?
 
3:05 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes no, the code, dummy
 
@thecoshman It's a ligature in a monospace font.
@nightcracker It's ruben's picture.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ah
 
oh I mean ruben's
 
I only added the freehand circles.
 
@Puppy lol me. It's shorter than std::vector<std::string>.
 
3:06 PM
welp, looks like no veto.
oh well
 
on what?
 
It's a different font.
 
I mean, a ligature might be ok in a monospace font, if it uses the same horizontal space as the non-ligature sequence.
 
Don't worry.
 
The "t" bar below x-height is also horrible.
 
3:08 PM
Also, since when are shortening, descriptive typedefs shit?
 
How can you read that?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I agree, but the "real" monaco font has that as well.
So I guess the Apple version is just a stone-age version of the same font.
 
@thecoshman Kerning is bad, too: look at "s tri ng".
@rubenvb Ugh. Lemme scratch "Monaco" off the list of usable fonts, for any purpose other than giving examples of things worse than Comic Sans.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes tl;dr bad font is bad
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I wholeheartedly agree.
 
user3010322
3:10 PM
Hm.
 
user3010322
So /etc/rc.local does NOT run after boot for Ubuntu...?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes except that it's not Mac's monaco, but linux's, which is a port
 
@ThePhD don't get all high and mighty, mr windows
 
@ThePhD that thing has been retired for a looooooooong time
 
user3010322
Oh.
 
3:11 PM
@rubenvb you suck ^^
 
user3010322
This VBox tutorial said use it for mounting.
 
user3010322
What should I be using?
 
@ThePhD mounting what?
 
user3010322
Calling sudo mount commands after boot.
 
fstab fool
 
3:12 PM
@Puppy so you'd write out the name all over the place?
 
user3010322
/etc/fstab?
 
yes
 
woot Lua does TCO.
 
@ThePhD <facepalm>
 
yes, but don't just put commands in there
 
3:12 PM
 
@ThePhD <double facepalm>
 
it has it's own format for saying how to mount drives
 
user3010322
;~;
 
if you wanna criticize monaco, at least do it on a properly rendered image
 
4 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
The "t" bar below x-height is also horrible.
 
user3010322
3:12 PM
What do I usssseee.
 
@nightcracker Working on it.
 
     void Compile(
        const Wide::Options::Clang& copts,
        const std::vector<std::string>& files,
        llvm::LLVMContext& con,
        const std::vector<std::pair<std::string, std::string>>& sources,
        const std::unordered_map<std::string, std::string>& import_headers,
        std::function<void(Semantic::Analyzer&, const Parse::Module*)>
    );
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's the only valid thing I've heard about it, which doesn't make it "worse than comic sans" IMO
 
10 mins ago, by rubenvb
I still think it's ugly (why is the crossing of the t lower than the top of the r?)
 
@rubenvb that's the same thing as what robot said
 
3:13 PM
@nightcracker What can you say about Comic Sans that is worse?
 
@nightcracker look at the time doofus :-p
I said it before it was cool.
 
user3010322
Hipstervb.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that it looks worse? I not a typography guy
 
user3010322
So what do I use to run mount commands after boot?
 
user3010322
3:15 PM
If not fstab or rc.local, because that's what everything is recommending to me.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes there's plenty of posts on the internet that explain why comic sans is bad
 
@nightcracker Yes, there are.
 
@ThePhD I was facepalming to the question mark behind fstab, implying you had never heard of it before.
 
They all boil down to "people use it everywhere" or "a bunch of personal preference nonsense".
I have never seen one that says "this one letter in Comic Sans is just broken".
 
3:16 PM
@nightcracker Reminds me of Comic Sans.
 
Sshh, don't say that!
 
I've submitted my proposal btw
Also someone should award cat of the 11 points he deserves.
 
I hate it when I sneeze and mucus comes out of my mouth
inb4 TMI
 
TMI
 
user3010322
Are you sure it's mucus?
 
3:18 PM
I don't see what else it would be
 
user3010322
Mmmm. Another project to throw out.
 
user3010322
It's been 3 months. The only one who's ever committed code out of 5 developers has been me. ~_~
 
RIP Rapptz/Platformer
 
user3010322
I'm not even talking about that.
 
3:20 PM
I know
But it's been 3 months for that too
This is the coolest lyric video I've seen
I don't think it's available outside of US though
 
user3010322
Eh. Well, if no one's going to help me do crap then I'm not sticking around.
 
@Rapptz haha. jpg lies tho
jpeg.gif.png
 
.txt.avi
 
.jpg.exe
 
rut roh
dammit my lift is on its way just as i got chatting to a fit
fml
 
Xeo
3:31 PM
@Rapptz Available for me
 
lmao
A video actually available in Germany
 
Xeo
yeah
I'm surprised too
OTOH, I can't actually watch it right now because I don't have my headphones connected to the PC
 
Non-lyric-video version is available just fine
From the same channel
Makes Sense (tm)
 
I really hate vevo
I like sharing videos with my friends but vevo always has to cockblock those moments for me.
 
Download and then share :V
 
3:34 PM
@CatPlusPlus download, then burn on a CD and mail it
 
dropbox
 
User titles don't show up in the popup you get when you click on avatar
Crime of all crimes
 
someone should make a bot that downloads those videos and reuploads privately
 
If it's region-locked then it's probably set to region-lock in ContentID as well
 
wut?
add "strips content drm bullshit"
 
3:38 PM
That's not in the video.
 
ContentID works server-side bub
 
fucking
butts.
 
Just use a proxy.
 
TIL that Coliru logo is made with actual spaces in between the letters :|
 
lol
You thought it's a logotype?
 
3:40 PM
<b> &nbsp;C&nbsp;o&nbsp;l&nbsp;i&nbsp;r&nbsp;u&nbsp; </b>
@CatPlusPlus I thought it's just a div with letter-spacing or something
 
4 TB Western Digital internal for $140. Do I buy 2 or 4?
 
The limit is 5.
 
3:42 PM
Pi
 
wth this SYB thing talks about GHC 6.10
ancient things
 
Did you know monads are old too???
 
monads are maintained
 
@Mysticial Do you actually need all the space? I found it easier to simply delete folders I haven't touched in years.
 
> Upload date Sun Jun 8 23:07:32 UTC 2014
syb
 
3:45 PM
so is syb ok
 
@BartekBanachewicz Monads are main, tamed.
 
@CatPlusPlus better safe than sorry
 
@FredOverflow I need a minimum of 2 that's for sure. But I haven't seen a non-Seagate 4TB internal drive go sub-$150 since 2 years ago.
 
@FredOverflow semi nice
 
main :: IO ()
@Mysticial Does Seagate suck?
 
3:46 PM
all HDDs suck
soon reformat of my workstation and I'll kick the HDD out <dances>
 
@FredOverflow Yes. Roughly half of my Seagates from the past 5 years have failed.
 
nanana gotta choose a new SSD
do I get 256 or 512GB is a question
 
256 GB is more than enough.
 
@BartekBanachewicz i'd argue cheap storage, but ssds have fairly good space now for cheap enough
 
@FredOverflow I think so too
 
3:47 PM
I used to have a 128 GB but upgraded to 256 GB just because I find 256 to be a nicer number :)
 
I have 256GB in my laptop now
 
I put the 128 in my laptop.
 
I have an HDD in my laptop #theshame
In fairness though, it's 1TB
 
lol if I had a HDD it would probably already be dead
from all the shaking and moving around
 
Mine probably will be soon, it's in for repair
I can't stop staring at this
 
3:48 PM
got to admit, i like being able to say 'tarabyte'
 
@Mysticial I have a friend that used to work there, apparently the non-USG firmware sucks and is basically the same firmware they used on their 5400RPM drives, and they never bothered to fix it
if you can find a second hand USG seagate drive however...
different story
 
@thecoshman it's "terabyte" you know
 
Hmm
Is Google down?
 
damn 8GB pagefile.sys and 6.3GB hiberfile.sys
 
3:50 PM
@EtiennedeMartel not for me
 
I outright disable hibernation
 
@EtiennedeMartel .com has been funky lately for me, but regional variants work fine
 
I can't access Gmail, Hangout or use Google search.
 
@OMGtechy why? it's pretty useful
 
I'm gonna buy the limit of 5.
 
3:50 PM
hmm
"Near Dick Experience"
 
Gmail IMAP works
 
That way I don't have to waste anymore time camping for more drives for another year.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I have never had a use for it, it just takes up space on my HDD and goes into hibernation when I don't want it to
 
So.. windows uses 14.3GB for pagefile/hibernation, 9.5GB for OS backups
and 17.8GB for Windows folder
 
Aren't page files and hibernation files huge security risks?
 
3:51 PM
that's pretty substantial TBH
 
Like, do they contain passwords and stuff?
 
I doubt it
I'd hope that the passwords are stored as a one way hash or something
 
If someone can exploit your hiberfil then they either have hardware access to your machine, or already have full privileges
 
oh lol holy fuck spotify cache takes 10.7GB
TreeSize <3
 
Or swap
Swap sucks, but Windows tends to work badly when swap is disabled
 
3:53 PM
@BartekBanachewicz oh yeah, was typing one handed :P
 
Even on systems with lots of RAM
 
Yeah, it's quite proactive
 
8 isn't lots but that was the most I could get on that PC
 
@CatPlusPlus Is it even possible to completely deactivate swapping in Windows?
 
@FredOverflow yes but you don't want to
 
3:54 PM
And you can't get rid of hiberfil if you want to hibernate
@FredOverflow Yes
Why wouldn't it be
 
Question for you guys.
 
@EtiennedeMartel ?
 
@BartekBanachewicz 8 GB ought to be enough for anybody.
 
hahaha
 
3:54 PM
Oh you.
void f(const std::string &str = std::string())
{
}
 
sooo 256GB SSD for 400PLN
 
In the above case.
 
@EtiennedeMartel void f(const std::string &str = {})
 
500GB 800 PLN
 
Does calling the function with no parameter always construct a new std::string instance on each call?
 
3:56 PM
decisions decisions
 
@EtiennedeMartel yes
 
@EtiennedeMartel yep.
 
@EtiennedeMartel yes
 
Alright thanks.
 
overload if you don't want that
 
3:56 PM
^
 
Or provide a static default.
 
FWIW default-constructed strings can be trivially optimised to use a static constant null character as backing storage.
No idea who does it.
 
lol a disk with a fan on it
 
disk?
 
1164MB/s read tho
 
3:59 PM
Dat read speed
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's probably not worth it.
 
@OMGtechy that's the reasonable speed for that capacity
I always laugh my ass off when people copy 1TB HDDs over USB 2.0
for like two days or something
 
@BartekBanachewicz what's the capacity?
 
@DemCodeLines Wrong room
 
4:00 PM
@OMGtechy that one is 500GB
 
ah
 
@DemCodeLines Great. We don't do that shit
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes was just sharing what the people the sandbox room like to do...
 
@EtiennedeMartel haha
 
4:01 PM
@CatPlusPlus uhm ok...
 
@DemCodeLines implying we care
 
@BartekBanachewicz y u mad tho
 
@DemCodeLines Why do you write with one-letter blobs, though?
go back to your Sandbox
 
@BartekBanachewicz Can you still limit changes to an object using lenses? Like using opaque types and such?
 
@BartekBanachewicz cuz thaz how v do it
kidding, dude.
 
4:07 PM
@Jefffrey elaborate (maybe in the proper room)
 
Alright, I ordered 5 x 4 TB drives.
 
@Mysticial Are you gonna do anything RAIDy with them?
 
Nope.
2 will back up my current Anime drive.
 
> anime drive
 
I don't have an immediate use for the other 3, so they will go into my main workstation for performance testing.
 
4:09 PM
> anime drive
 
That'll determine whether I buy more next year.
 
> backup of anime drive
 
@Mysticial WOT? You have an Anime collection that big? I didn't know there were those may bits in Japan.
 
@BartekBanachewicz The "anime drive" is actually 2 x 4TB Hitachis in a single enclosure.
 
@Mysticial that's a lot of tentacles
 
4:10 PM
lol
 
with that much data, a RAID with parity is surely worth doing
 
Well, all those SATA cables do look a bit like tentacles..
 
@thecoshman I keep my primary and backup copies of my data in two different locations.
I don't bother with RAID.
 
so you just mirror all the data?
 
I have so many < 5/10 anime that I delete them instead of keeping them
I only keep the anime I like.
and am willing to rewatch
 
4:12 PM
Why do you want to keep all that anime anyway?
 
@Mysticial Do you do your backups over the net, or dismount the disks and drive them to a backup location, (which may be quicker:).
 
@thecoshman Yeah, 2 copies of everything.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes anime fans are horders
 
@MartinJames I drive them.
 
@MartinJames for initial clone maybe, not if they are kept in sync
wait, those are backup copies, so you have three copies of all that anime :O
 
4:14 PM
@thecoshman Of course - he's a C++ developer.
 
@thecoshman Just 2.
Primary copy is at home. Backup copy is somewhere else.
 
Xeo
Yay, time for Star Wars
 
@thecoshman He must really want it... he's got backups of backups
 
ah yeah, so it's just the one backup, offsite
 
@thecoshman yeah
Every 6 months or so, I'll bring them together to update the backup.
 
4:16 PM
lol, why don't you just sync them over the net?
 
Too slow.
 
just keep them in sync all the time :S
 
@thecoshman Remember--he works at Google. Clearly, they don't have enough bandwidth.
 
I wish Wikipedia had something akin to git blame. You have to use an external tool instead.
and well, it sucks
 
@Mysticial Backup every 6 months???????????
 
4:26 PM
@CatPlusPlus It's just Anime.
 
lol backing up ANIME
 
yeah, it's funny how his backup intervals are a joke twice
 
@JerryCoffin I find it more interesting he's not using google drive
 
@EtiennedeMartel My friends are discussing this now, and you know they really do seem Anti-Nintendo. I haven't even noticed until now tbh.
I find it kind of odd that under profile settings you can't input your NNID or 3DS friend code
Only PSN, XBL, or Steam
In their Destiny review they summon some kind of 'flame shield' too
It's kind of weird.
I don't like people who do that
> I'm Polygon's Reviews Editor, Arthur Gies. I'm a fan of Bungie's work with Halo and am one of the most shooter-oriented players on staff, and I also enjoy action RPGs like the Diablo series. Meanwhile, Polygon's Deputy Reviews Editor Phil Kollar has poured thousands of hours into a diverse array of MMOs over the last decade plus, in addition to enjoying the Halo series. Surprisingly, we came to some very similar conclusions on Destiny.
 
speaking of polygons
I found a singleton in my code
singletonPolygonDraw :: Polygon -> Glisha us ()
 
4:40 PM
@Mgetz He probably is using Google Drive (aka "The 101") when he drives his drives from his driveway to wherever he stores them off-site.
 
@JerryCoffin rimshot
 
user1804599
./sol/stack.hpp:401:5: error: expression result unused [-Werror,-Wunused-value]
    swallow {'\0', (sol::stack::push(L, std::get<I>(tuplen)), '\0')... };
    ^       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
user1804599
ehh wat :v
 
you have to void it
(void)swallow{...}
 
user1804599
Weird, I just cloned this from master.
 
4:43 PM
I don't see how it didn't catch that :s
the tests are run with -Wall -Werror
 
user1804599
Yay now it works.
 
user1804599
% ninja install
ninja: error: 'include', needed by 'install', missing and no known rule to make it
 
user1804599
Now I'm more confused than ever XD at work it worked!
 
do you use linux at work?
 
> The question is never should I fap to this...but rather, how LONG should I fap to this?
 
user1804599
4:44 PM
Yes. OS X at home.
 
hmm
yeah this is my fault
sorry
 
user1804599
/me spanks Rapptz
 
do ./bootstrap.py --install-dir=/usr/local/include
or whatever :v
 
user1804599
yup that worked thanks!
 
is there any other word to say "right" without possibly confusing readers into thinking you mean "correct"
as in, "the right array"
 
user1804599
4:48 PM
I'm writing an Asio binding. I want to use Lua as VM for Styx until I'm in the mood to write a multithreaded VM.
 
opposed to "the left array"
 
instead of doing if sys.platform == 'linux': # *nix specific things I should just do if sys.platform == 'win32': # windows specific instead
 
@nightcracker "right-hand" or "right-hand part" suffices for many purposes (probably including this one).
 
@nightcracker 'the array on the right'
 
Elements equal to the pivot are stored in the partition on the right.
Elements equal to the pivot are stored in the right-hand partition.
both sound off to my non-native ears =/
 
4:50 PM
English is a lot easier than French, however, where you have a "true hand" and a "false hand".
 
@JerryCoffin le retardé
 
@nightcracker use this one
 
user1804599
@Rapptz Am I allowed to use "sol" in the name of my library? :v
 
don't see why not
 
user1804599
Yay.
 
4:53 PM
@rightfold Yes (sacrifice of one virgin required).
 
@JerryCoffin how can he use the name if he has to commit suicide hurr durr
 
if args.cxx == 'clang++':
    cxxflags.extend(['-Wno-unused-value', '-Wno-constexpr-not-const'])
Oh.
lol
I forgot Clang is such a bitch about warnings
-Wconstexpr-not-const is the worst warning ever
that and -Wmismatched-tags
 
Building a make tool?
or
 
that's python
I just use it to generate my ninja files
I'm satisfied with it
one of these days I might wrap it to make it less painful
 
I know it's python (or at least looks like it)
 
4:58 PM
@nightcracker No suicide involved. First, "virgin sacrifice" means "send me a virgin", not "kill a virgin". Second, I accept young, pretty girls (actual virginity is entirely optional), and I certainly don't plan on killing them.
 
@JerryCoffin how young? ;)
 
@nightcracker At my age, anything under 40 qualifies as young. :-(
 
I should start watching that
 

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