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12:12 AM
@RMartinhoFernandes link?
I can't find it.
 
Oh, that's the one I was looking at :)
Assuming it is Java code, I think you should first increase the warning level so that potential null dereferences are reported as errors.
Eclipse also has the option to report redundant null-checks as errors. I also enable this one.
 
Yes, and how do you get rid of these warnings? By adding a precondition check. Which is exactly what the code posted is for.
 
Who posted that link to that dumb site offering to promote your app?
 
Someone on the iPad room.
 
12:22 AM
It needs to be burninated.
Listening in the background.
It's total garbage. Who is that voice? I want that person to be gone. Forever.
Such BS.
 
99% of everything is total crap. it's up to you to either ignore it or get angry about it.
 
The biggest challenge to making money on the App Store is making apps that people freaking want to use!
 
I always get nervous when I see that "You have less than 9 seconds left to edit your message".
 
Heh.
 
Tom
12:42 AM
Anyone has a USB coffee cup warmer? ^^
My coding always makes my coffee get cold.
 
12:55 AM
@Tom I have one at work but it doesn't have enough power to actually make any difference.
At best it just slows down the cooling.
 
Tom
@StackedCrooked heh that's why I ask, all the reviews I see state that it cannot keep it warm. However this one seems to work just fine: amazon.com/Mr-Coffee-MWBLK-Mug-Warmer/dp/B000CO89T8/…
Problem is I live in holland
and Mr. Coffee does not ship to holland :<
Amazon might but they ask ridiculous prices. Shame I cannot find such warmer with the same quality on amazon.de
@StackedCrooked they should make one that uses 2 USB ports so it has 5V instead of 2.5V
 
@Tom Heard of a data furnace? tech.slashdot.org/story/11/07/26/1324212/… That should keep your coffee warm
 
Tom
@habitmelon I'm looking for a more practical usb like solution :p
plug & drink
 
1:11 AM
My laptop is currently venting off air at 69ºC. That should be enough, no?
 
Tom
this is a very serious topic you know, a good cup of coffee may be the difference between bad and good coding insight
I need this.
Ok, I want one with a normal power adapter.. need more heat.
 
1:59 AM
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A: How can I legally try Wii games before buying them?

DecencyBuy the game, play it for a few hours, and then return to the store you bought it from and inform the seller that some key, or the game itself didn't work properly. Try to pick out the customer sales person who is least likely to know how anything about games. It's no where near ethical but I se...

 
@StackedCrooked - The music is cool
 
2:18 AM
Hah, love the coffee convo!
 
2:55 AM
@RMartinhoFernandes The blue up-arrow, with presumably useful functionality, is very non-Microsoft, though
6 hours ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
user image
 
3:50 AM
According to their own "pretty solid" Windows Explorer usage data the Refresh is the 6th most used command in Windows Explorer. That should tell them something (namely that the beast is perceived as extremely unreliable, so manual screen refresh needed). But of course it doesn't tell them anything. Just in order to present that usage data, which is shaped by what the Explorer UI makes easy, and pretend that it tells them what Windows Explorer should make easy, that requires mind boggling idiocy.
 
 
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5:04 AM
No, that is because new files are sorted to the bottom.
IMHO.
 
5:25 AM
Perhaps in Windows XP (I remember that happening in Windows XP). The article, however, relates the numbers to features in Vista and Windows 7. And no matter how hard I try by pasting or moving, the list in Windows 7 remains sorted.
 
5:53 AM
He he... As the folks at Microsoft keeps on removing functionality, 3rd party extensions are created to add it back. And uh, it's the same with Firefox, like I use NoSquint.
By the way, my comment on the Microsoft blog did not appear; I think, not approved...
 
6:23 AM
Well, I use the classical look even on Windows 7.
 
@AlfPSteinbach mind boggling idiocy or just plain evil
I'm pretty sure there's someone at Microsoft who sees it as his mission to cripple Explorer a bit more for every release
@AlfPSteinbach I always have to post twice on MSDN blogs. The first one never gets through for some reason
 
 
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7:43 AM
@AlfPSteinbach Expanded menus? Yuck. They sucked, big time.
 
@Cat: many people undoubtedly feel the same way you do about this linear list hierarchical menus. and in truth, they really do suck compared to better alternatives such as pie menus and general category designators. however, lacking those better alternatives, especially blind people are better served with menu choices that can be described. and any user is helped by category hierarchy until all that been memorized.
 
I don't really use that at all these days, but 7's is way better than XP's menu overload that completely misses when you move your mouse bit wrong.
 
@Cat: yeah, that's why pie menus are way better. them square menus, it forces you to move paw in unnatural square ways. it's about the same as QWERTY was designed to slow down typists...
 
@CatPlusPlus I feel the opposite way. 7 just takes your menu away if you move your mouse a bit wrong. "Here, have a completely unrelated menu. Oh, you want to go back? Well, tough luck. Screw you"
 
7:58 AM
@jalf I haven't noticed anything like this. It requires a click to open a folder.
But then again, I use the built-in run/search more.
 
@CatPlusPlus for my most used programs i created a toolbar with links. i really don't like the silly "pin" functionality. it sacrifices far too much in order to make it no more simple to run a program than what my much more functional toolbar does.
 
I like pinning.
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Of course, I also have the task bar vertical, at left
 
8:23 AM
Hi.
 
8:39 AM
I hate vertical task bars.
 
I hate getting up in the morning :P
 
Let me guess, you also like lines with length over 150 characters and 16:9 monitors, right?
 
Morning.
 
morning
 
8:42 AM
@wilx why
 
The area is always smaller and too crowded.
I use two line height horizontal task bar.
 
Anyone tried mustache and friends ?
 
o_O
Like...facial hair?
 
not tried mustache, I have friends, unlike what it may seem like on here
 
lol
I had a moustache and a goatie until I got married. :)
 
8:52 AM
TIL
@wilx oh, you're married
 
@wilx huh, the area isn't smaller, it's larger.
 
Uh
 
Yup.
 
Now that I think about it, it sure wasn't clear. Let me try it again :
Anyone tried mustache (mustache.github.com) and friends ?
 
lol
I have never seen that before.
 
sbi
8:55 AM
@kbok [mustache](http://mustache.github.com/): mustache
 
Hmm, it seems interesting.
 
sbi
Morkdawn works here, too, you know.
 
Though you sometimes need a bit of logic in templates...
 
sbi
@kbok Oh, and I'm sure someone will have tried it. (Don't they have download statistics?)
 
@sbi I have a personal grudge against Mark Down, so I try to avoid him as much as possible.
 
8:56 AM
I don't like it from the very first sentence on the page.
 
cause it mentions PHP?
 
That is not the first sentence, I think.
 
@sbi "Anyone" in this context means "in this chat room" :)
 
Hah, "no for loops" and then manual goes to introduce sections that autoexpand on lists.
 
sbi
@kbok Ah! Well, really, how was I supposed to know that?
 
8:59 AM
We all know there's no one else in the world after all.
 
Templates need logic. Template logic, to be precise. Everything else is a workaround.
It's been tried and failed miserably many times.
 
@sbi By trial and error. We learn every day !
 
And then there's weird punctuation everywhere in there.
 
This guy is threatening to become a new "There's..."
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Q: Will this execute without any race condition

MetallicPriestSuppose I have this code executed by two different threads T1 and T2 that might be running on two different cores. Note that this code gets executed repeatedly and x is initially 0, so that T1 passes the while loop first time. Will it work deterministically and have no race conditions. Do I nee...

 
And no inheritance.
 
9:01 AM
I think it may be actually useful for some use cases. I often come up with a custom-made templating engine for small apps.
 
Jinja 2 is the bestest templating engine ever.
 
In the past day or two he has repeatedly asked questions similar to "I don't need to synchronize for this, do I?" Everyone tells him "Yes, you need." So he rephrases his question and asks again.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes This guy has 1000 rep only by asking questions.
 
Seems like he wants someone to tell him he is right and won't stop until that happens.
 
So, somebody should tell him that nobody is going to tell him he is right :)
 
9:04 AM
They tried.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes What's a "There's..." ?
 
An user known for his annoying behaviour.
 
@sbi, BTW, I started reading "Thud!" (Actually I nearly finished it) and I love it. It was an excellent advice, thank you :)
 
Sorry guys, I shouldn't have blasphemed.
 
God, how can you ask so many questions ?
 
9:08 AM
Question bans only happen for very bad askers.
 
Anyway, I already encountered that MetallicPriest guy several times, and he's annoying as hell.
 
sbi
@kbok hey, I didn't even know I recommended it to you! I shall write to pterry telling I made another convert, maybe I get a free book. :)
 
@sbi Well, you recommended reading Pratchett.
 
sbi
@kbok Ah, just generally you mean? Well, I do tend to do that. :)
 
@sbi I can understand why. Also, It's very useful to carry an Englisch book around to impress people.
 
9:18 AM
@sbi Does that happen often?
 
He's been diagnosed with alzheimer 4 years ago.
 
sbi
@kbok I read little German here, but it seems nobody is impressed by an English book in Berlin public transport.
@RMartinhoFernandes I doubt it. I never heard about it. :)
@StackedCrooked Indeed, but he still writes. Or lets other write for him. His Twitter account is called Terry&Rob, and I believe Rob is the guy who does his typing now.
 
Well then I guess I'll have to expand my collection by more traditional means.
Like purchase.
 
@sbi I think German people are much better foreign languages speakers that French people are though.
 
sbi
I like the watch series best, and I think in general his books get better the later they were written. Thud! certainly is Vimes at his best. A very humane book. I love his approach to the categorical imperative: Never let it slip even in the smallest detail, because that's how the bad always started.
 
9:21 AM
Or should I write, "readers".
 
I like the Rincewind books most, but then I've only read one Watch book ("Guards! Guards!").
 
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Q: Could someone tell me some free Q&A site?

user919336Could someone tell me some free Q&A site?

 
Wow, recursion at its best.
 
I have one Terry Pratchett book called "I shall wear midnight". Haven't completed it yet however..
@kbok return *this;
 
sbi
@kbok I'm not sure about that. Berlin is certainly not average. A lot of furriners are living here, and you hear English on the streets a lot.
 
9:25 AM
FYI (The Q was deleted), the scores are actually, -4/+2.
 
Tag: addressbook. Lol
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes I don't like Rincewind all that much anymore, because they sport a somewhat "trashy" humor.
 
@sbi I see. No point in bragging then ;)
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked Actually that's the latest in his series for "young adults". They are very good to read for older adults, too, but I doubt you get out of ISWM as much as you could when you don't know the three Tiffany Aching books that came before it. It is, however, a very good book, and even if you only get 75% out of it, it's still way above many of the books I have read recently.
I gave it my daughter for her birthday last year, and she read it in one day and one night. (And then duly passed it to me, so I could repeat the process.)
 
Hmm, I like the Rincewind books
and the Death ones
well, and all the rest of them too
 
9:32 AM
@sbi Good to know. I'll get back to it after finishing my current reading (The Twelve Kingdoms).
 
sbi
@jalf The Diskworld Death is certainly a very likable character. :) So are his relatives, Albert, Mort and especially Susan.
 
Alastair Preston Reynolds (born 1966) is a British science fiction author. He specialises in dark hard science fiction and space opera. He spent his early years in Cornwall, moved back to Wales before going to Newcastle, where he read physics and astronomy. Afterwards, he earned a PhD from St Andrews, Scotland. In 1991, he moved to Noordwijk in the Netherlands where he met his wife Josette (who is from France). There, he worked for the European Space Research and Technology Centre, part of the European Space Agency, until 2004 when he left to pursue writing full time. He returned to Wale...
there's a book i haven't read and it was published in 2012, -1 year ago
 
sbi
Blue Remembered Earth is an upcoming science fiction novel by Welsh author Alastair Reynolds. It is the first of the planned Poseidon's Children trilogy, which follows humanity's development over the next 11,000 years, with the intention of portraying a more optimistic future than anything he has previously written. It was initially scheduled for publication in 2011, but this has been pushed back into 2012. Reynolds first announced his plans to write the Poseidon's Children trilogy in early 2009 (known at the time as the "11k" trilogy). He has described the first novel of the series as f...
Note the "upcoming".
 
@AlfPSteinbach comma operator evaluates to its last operand
 
9:34 AM
I'm the derp that doesn't read books in here
 
@tony: it can be pleasing but also quietly despairing. like, i "followed" the "omega" series of books by Jack McDevitt. He was a master. But then it seemed he grew old, or suffered Alzheimers, or something. Deteriorated so much that I haven't bought the last book in the series, the one where he connects all the threads.
 
sbi
@AlfPSteinbach Yeah, I'm very interested in a new trilogy by Reynolds. Since I started to read SF again a few years ago, discovering Reynolds was a revelation (pun intended.) However, after a lot of rather long years disappointingly spent waiting for the next sequel, I have now started to try to hold back until I can read series like this one after another.
@TonyTheTiger That's easy to change, really. Just pick up a book and start. :)
 
The hard part is stopping.
 
I have a reading queue and it somehow only grows. :.
 
Well, actually, not that hard anymore. I just need to stop buying them.
 
9:39 AM
@RMartinhoFernandes What is the soft part?
 
@sbi true
 
sbi
If you start with Pratchett, you have a almost 40 Diskworld books before you. I wish that was my position now. That would keep me reading for a year, and they are almost all excellent (even most of the Rincewind books which I don't like that much anymore).
@StackedCrooked The soft part in books is called "paper".
 
I have tried reading story books, I just loose interest
 
(It's Discworld, with a c. Pratchett is British.)
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Ah, damn, I never know. Thanks.
@TonyTheTiger Did you try to read novels or stories?
 
9:40 AM
spelling is overrated anyway
 
Is disc british english for disk?
 
@sbi Sorry, I didn't get what "trashy" humour means.
 
@sbi novel
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger Try read stories or novellas then, they require less of an attention span.
 
hmmm ok
@jalf: the guy in the interview yesterday said the "C++ Geek" title on my CV is what got him interested in me, heheh :)
 
sbi
9:45 AM
@RMartinhoFernandes Well, I'm not a native, so I might not find the right word. Maybe slapstick fits better. But Rincewind's perils have lost a lot of their appeal to me over time. It kind of repeats, and even him almost dying tends to get boring when repeated again and again.
 
@TonyTheTiger Titles are overrated. Mine is "C#/C++ developer" and I'm often called for PHP or VB jobs.
Or Java.
 
@kbok lol
this was for a C++ job
so in this case, it wasn't overrated
 
Sure.
 
@TonyTheTiger yeah, your CV needs to make you stand out a bit. ;)
they can always find out what you're really like at the interview. The CV is just to get you to the interview
 
yea
indeed
 
9:49 AM
and putting something like that gets people's attention :D
 
Can we get a swift close here:
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Q: C++ Need Help with Displaying Results in Main()

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@sbi Have you read The Science of Discworld, btw?
 
sbi
@jalf The first one or two, but I didn't find them all that appealing either.
 
I liked the first one
the sequels didn't really grab my interest
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes I flagged this for "low quality". Let a mod delete it right away.
 
9:53 AM
never read science of diskworld, but there was a lot published about ringworld (niven & pournelle)
first some mit students proved it couldn't exist
then some professors showed it could exist, with certain wild assumptions
 
@AlfPSteinbach The discworld one is kind of an inversion of that concept
it is really a discworld story describing the science/history/creation of the real world
which makes it much more interesting imo :)
 
sbi
@jalf Yeah, I read the first one, but I think I got stuck in the 2nd, and then never tried any other. (There were three of them, right?)
 
yeah, sounds about right
the third one is worse ;)
 
sbi
@AlfPSteinbach I think I read what Niven wrote about that in in (possibly) the afterword to his latest installment of the series. It was interesting, but I don't really read SF and check whether what is written makes sense as real physics.
 
the latest i read was "ringworld's children"
they sent that ring traveling...
oh, spoiler
 
sbi
9:57 AM
@AlfPSteinbach Yeah, I think that was it. A belated finish of the series.
 
sbi
Well, it did come like 20 years after the last one, right?
 
sort of
i have mostly read books by old guys
like niven, asimov, clarke, vinge
vernon (or is that vernor) vinge wrote storied about the library outpost at galactic north, sitting on the end of a low-bandwidth connection with something very much like Usenet messages, and lots of Norwegian names he he
 
We may introduce the concept of "poo badges". They should be "bad" badges such as "Extremely crappy question" (Score of -5 or less), "RTFM" (Asks 95% questions), "Search engine crippled" (5 Q closed as dupes), etc.
 
i think one main thing i liked in those books was the can-do engineering approach. like first the "engineer" in Jules Verne's "secret island". And also captain Nemo.
Books to be inspired by.
 
sbi
10:07 AM
@AlfPSteinbach I never heard about Vinge, but have read the others (plus Lem, which you westerners always seem to forget). And I'm sure you have read Heinlein.
And you have already read new SF. Reynolds is grand.
Have you had a look at Stross? (Not his other stuff, though. I only like his SF.) And de Pierres? I liked her Sentients of Orion series a lot.
 
@sbi More than 30!
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Thanks, Robot.
 
I really like Ringworld's Children. I'm still trying to decide if it's because it was good, or just because The Ringworld Throne was so crappy.
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes BTW, the former came out not 20 or even 30, but only 8 years after the latter. Or at least that's what I'm told by Wikipedia.
 
Oh silly me.
I thought you were talking about the first one.
Somehow.
 
sbi
10:22 AM
24 mins ago, by sbi
Well, it did come like 20 years after the last one, right?
:)
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Need your circuits oiled?
 
I haven't had coffee yet.
 
oh
starting the day without coffee
:(
 
For some reason my stomach isn't very fond of it anymore :( So I'm cutting back.
 
10:27 AM
oh that's a different thing then
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes When I was young, I used to drink lots of black tea. (We're talking one or two liters a day.) When I was writing my thesis (at the end under a lot of pressure), I noticed that my body doesn't like black tea anymore, and that I only still drink it out of habit. So I switched to herb tea instead, and felt much better. Now I drink two or three cups a month, mostly mild green tea. And I drink a lot less coffee than that.
 
@sbi Gosh! Two litres! Ow.
I used to have four to five coffees a day. Now I'm down to two or three a week.
But I really like coffee :(
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes That's only like three or four pots! :) One for breakfast, one for dinner, and one or two during the day. Not that much, huh?
@RMartinhoFernandes So what's your stomach's reaction?
 
Er, pain?
I don't think it's a stress thing.
 
@sbi I used to drink more than that.
 
sbi
10:33 AM
@RMartinhoFernandes Is that when you drink too much of it or if it is too strong?
 
But I'm down to 3 per average day.
Coffee is meh.
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus I was sure someone would come and brag about that. I had expected more intelligent bragging from you, though. :)
 
@sbi When I drink too much.
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus There's an h too much in that sentence.
@RMartinhoFernandes I see.
 
No, it sucks.
 
10:35 AM
Shush, coffee is awesome.
 
Tea is awesome.
 
That doesn't change coffee.
 
Coffee is tea's nemesis.
 
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Q: Killing a process leaves zombie process to haunt me... :(

Prasanth MadhavanI have a program wherein i use fork. In the child process, i just login to a remote server and executes a command. In the parent process, i wait for the child to finish its task. If it doesnot finish it in a predetermined amount of time, i kill the child process using kill(child_pid, SIGTERM). Bu...

Look at the technical inaccuracy in the title!
 
This kills the crab process.
With a fork.
 
10:45 AM
lol
 
11:18 AM
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Q: C++ Align by structure size or largest alignment requirement among its members?

Tiago CostaTake this structure for example: struct Packing { int x; // 4-byte align int y; // 4-byte align short int z; // 2-byte align char m; // 1-byte align; char __pad[1]; // explicit padding }; The sizeof this structure is 12-bytes. So should store this function in address...

wait wut?
 
@sbi stross yes. de Pierres no never heard of :-)
 
11:32 AM
> __pad is a reversed identifier. – R. Martinho Fernandes 9 mins ago
 
You need to update your aspell, robot.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes rather, if you omit the underscores then it's a rotated identifier
 
@CatPlusPlus The spelling is correct.
 
"Procrastination is like masturbation: in the end, you're just fucking yourself." LOL
 
"What are the spelling mistakes in 'cat'?" "It is written d-o-g."
 
11:35 AM
shouldn't it say "reserved"?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Shush, you.
 
lulz
man, I can't seem to wake up today
damn
 
@TonyTheTiger yes sorry
new badge
proposal
 
@AlfPSteinbach I fail to read that
 
11:39 AM
"SuperTeacher"
but you can try it backwards, perhaps easier
 
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Q: How to create a memory leak in C++?

Bali CI was just wondering how you could create a system memory leak using C++. I have done some googling on this but not much came up, I am aware that it is not really feasible to do it in C# as it is managed code but wondered if there was a simple way to do this with C++? I just thought it would be i...

Oh gosh.
 
create pointer - never delete
memory leak
profit
 
new int;
 
check out my spam answer
lol
I prob get downvoted to hell, but whatever
 
11:41 AM
That's what CW is for, isn't it? ;)
 
All that looping will quickly kill the program, unless it's an overcommiting kernel, in which case it will quickly kill everything but the program.
It's not exactly a rocket science.
 
Isn't it possible he means memory that even leaks after you kill the program (which is almost impossible afaik?)
 
I believe that the COM global heap operates that way on Windows
 
oh hai
 
I guess you could leak some memory on linux also by creating tuntap devices or similar, but you need quite some privileges to do that
 
11:44 AM
Really, if you want to bring the system to its knees, you should be attacking the disk while you're using lots of memory in a controlled manner.
 
It would have to be a memory owned by some external thing.
 
The disk is key for slowing shit down.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes; spamming the BUS also helps
 
In computer science, thrashing is a situation where large amounts of computer resources are used to do a minimal amount of work, with the system in a continual state of resource contention. Once started, thrashing is typically self-sustaining until something occurs to remove the original situation that led to the initial thrashing behavior. Usually thrashing refers to two or more processes accessing a shared resource repeatedly such that serious system performance degradation occurs because the system is spending a disproportionate amount of time just accessing the shared resource. Reso...
this
 
11:46 AM
Well, if it's SSD on SATA3, it might not do much.
 
It's your best bet.
Even with SSD it's still the slowest part of the system.
 
SSD has no more mechanical parts though, so it should be much faster
 
But it overheats more quickly
 
ah, didn't know that
 
And still way slower than memory.
 
11:50 AM
SSD on SATA3 is way faster than a mech drive, but it's still hardly RAM
 
hmmm
ok
 
Leaking memory you don't use won't really let you "see how much the system suffers because of code not being written properly."
 
Well, it might force swapping.
 
IF you have a swap partition (which I avoid on every system I install)
 
Not using swap is silly.
 
11:53 AM
Silly.
 
why?
 
Because you keep unused app pages in the RAM, while it might be used for something more useful, like system buffers.
 
Not having enough ram nowadays seems much more silly
 
Swap is not for extending available RAM.
Simply because speed differences makes it unusable in that way.
 
yes, if you have enough ram you also have enough space for system buffers ...
 
11:55 AM
You still keep unused pages in the RAM.
 
yes
so?
 
So you're actually wasting memory.
 
I sometimes add a malloc(1); statement somewhere in my program because I believe small imperfections add beauty to the program.
 
And you have less space to mount filesystems on RAM.
 
@CatPlusPlus: which is not an issue if you have enough RAM ...
 
11:56 AM
Virtual sizes of processes are usually much larger than working sets.
 
and seriously, how many common-use (no IT-guys) computers don't suffice with 8G (amount I usually install)?
 
common-use computers don't need more than 4 GB (today)
 
E.g. my Firefox currently has virtual size at over 1GB, while only 700MB is kept in the working set. That's 300MB that can be repurposed without adverse effects.
 
@StackedCrooked I do :)
 
It doesn't matter how much RAM you have.
 
11:57 AM
@TonyTheTiger I say common-use computers. As a developer, I like having 8GB on my machine.
 
@CatPlusPlus: yes it does
 
oh lol
 
it's nice to repurpose if there is another purpose
 
You want RAM to be used as efficiently as possible, and disabling swap has a reverse effect.
See: app prefetching, all sorts of buffers, caches.
 
I know
most of which will see a performance issue
if you do not have enough ram :p
 
11:58 AM
You have less RAM for that when you force useless pages to be kept in the RAM.
 
You could mount a portion of RAM as a drive and set swap file there.
 
Performance issue is with disabling swap.
 
But that requires reboot :/
 
@StackedCrooked That doesn't make any sense, you know. :P
 
Dammit
@CatPlusPlus isn't it faster?
 
11:59 AM
The whole point of swap is to keep it out of the RAM.
 
@CatPlusPlus: yes, in that case there is a performance issue from the moment you actually would need that extra ram you're not freeing
agreed
 

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