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12:52 AM
@DavidArenburg I'd rather have the tag, but I accept the arguments that have been made ...
 
 
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8:53 AM
@BenBolker Since this is a meta chat room, I suggest we will agree on some general policy regarding Coursera question on . I suggest that all Coursera questions will be immediately downvoted into oblivion and closed regardless of their content in order to discourage Coursera and their students recommending SO as a supporting site for their courses. The only problem is, that I don't have a good closing reason that will match SO policy, unless I'll have to look for dups for every question.
Or we can we just treat Coursera questions as any other question and forget about all this recent mess
 
9:35 AM
@BenBolker how about if you spot a coursera question that violates their ToS you mention it here and we all flag it for the mods to zap?
 
10:22 AM
@Spacedman The mods couldn't care less about their TOS, that's basically sums up whole issue here. I also have a suspicion, that under the hood, SO management prefers that Coursera (or any other organization) will keep directing students to SE sites in order to increase traffic
 
EDi
Well, we can do whatever we want in the [r] tag. Do think that so many mods are around here.
Who cares if some [r] geeks downvote and close Q for spurious (coursera) reasons?
 
@EDi We still need to get to some agreement, otherwise it won't be effective (like the current situation)
 
EDi
We can make the agreement here in this private room...
BTW: Doesn't coursera have their own forums? Where the students can help each other?
 
@EDi probably, but it seems that Coursera student lack any web searching skills whatsoever, so I wouldn't expect much from them
@EDi We still need to hear what the rest have to say, just me and you aren't enough for the task. We both don't even have the hammer...
 
EDi
So let's make a poll.
 
10:41 AM
@DavidArenburg They are about Qs that encourage breaking other TOS, eg working round API limits or removing attribution strings via CSS - not to mention all the other strictly illegal behaviour.
"For my coursera project I need to web-scrape 5,000 images from mypr0nsite.com...."
 
@Spacedman Yeah, and when someone posts an answer such as "don't do it", it get's deleted by the mods
 
@DavidArenburg the correct response is not an answer, its to raise a posse and get it mod-flagged for abuse
 
11:22 AM
close: asking three questions: stackoverflow.com/questions/26546627/…
 
11:46 AM
And about trading, which is a bad enough on itself.
 
@DavidArenburg I prefer "Or we can we just treat Coursera questions as any other question and forget about all this recent mess". I would prefer to have the coursera tag for my own information, but since the SO community says that's not what tags should be for, I don't see any particular need for a vendetta against Coursera questions. I am particularly swayed by the meta-answerers who said that Coursera does encourage their students to send appropriate questions to SO."
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12:40 PM
@RomanLuštrik What's bad about questions on trading?
 
@JoshuaUlrich I think @Spacedman has a knack for free advice on financial questions.
(It took me quite a while to find spelling for "knack". "Nack" and "neck" didn't do.)
 
I guess I don't see the difference between giving free advice on financial questions and giving free advice on questions related to the OP's paying job.
 
12:56 PM
When ecology will be subsidized by billions upon billions of bailout money, I'll see your point. :)
 
@RomanLuštrik That's apparently pretty easy, just do something really, really stupid that has the potential to endanger many special interest groups. And, FWIW, no independent traders were bailed out. :)
 
Hum, so I have to invent a disease that does something only to wealthy people...
I'm thinking syphilis 2.0.
 
@RomanLuštrik Preferably just politicians and lobbyists. Maybe something that only lives in fund-raising dinners?
 
1:20 PM
Something along the lines of self-aware gagh?
 
2:05 PM
I'm with @BenBolker here, and I almost posted earlier in the week here that I thought you'd misunderstood Ben's motivations for wanting a Coursera tag. Ben's an educator and I took his wanting such a tag as a means for him to alter the way he approached those questions; give general hints not a complete solution, comment with pointers as to how to proceed instead of full answers.
Coursera's honour code system is something they need to work with in an internet-enabled world, this is not something that Stack Overflow can or should be policing. If questions are up to snuff for Stack Overflow then why should anyone but the OP care about how they use any received wisdom? It can be frustrating to see lots of dups, but we see this all the time anyway; I just don't see the need for all the hate at this one specific source.
@DavidArenburg Evidence? (please don't point me to the recently highlighted Q&A about Google Translate. That Answer was killed because it was a comment. Pure. Simple.)
@EDi Please don't do this. This would just abuse the Stack Overflow system. You vote as you already would; is a question good, well-researched, reproducible, going to help other users etc. If you choose not to answer the questions that you think come from Coursera, that's up to you, but please stick to the Stack Overflow spirit when doing so.
 
I'm firmly with @GavinSimpson here. I can understand being annoyed by repetitive questions, but it's just not worth getting worked up about.
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3:19 PM
I'm shutting up about it now anyway. Anyone want to talk about anything else? Any nice questions to close?
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Q: Coursera Android Course: CompassActivity.java

SimonI'm trying to use the SensorEmulator to emulate the sensors for a compass app. The code for this compass app comes from the Coursera course: Programming Mobile Applications for Android Handheld Systems. I think the sourcecode was written to be installed on an actual phone and there is no guidanc...

 
 
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4:32 PM
This comment looks like spam or am I missing something?
maybe someone on or exchange can help. — Karsten W. 2 hours ago
I also don't understand why the question got upvotes.
 
@Roland i dont think its spam, or-exchange is a real thing that indeed might help the user. asking teh question in a decent format would also help the user...
 
@Spacedman Thanks.
 

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