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11:07 AM
@GavinSimpson You never had to, but if you keep repeating conspiracy theories based on not-evem-half thruths and incomplete information I will reserve the right to point out to you just how wrong you are.
But then we are very close to the veil being lifted and you (and @geospacedman) will, at last, be able to see for yourself just how many evil things we all have done behind your backs.
So the screaming and yelling can resume in due course :)
 
12:01 PM
Embargo lifted, so please go here to start learning about the R Consortium
Accelerating R: RStudio and the new R Consortium http://wp.me/p1h48z-zo #rstats
R Consortium website: r-consortium.org
 
OMG they really are sacrificing kittens!! !!
Srs question: Why do we now have a Foundation as a member of the Consortium - I don't see why the other businesses didn't just join the Foundation? Or is there no corporate membership of the Foundation? Aims and goals etc seem similar... I'm missing something...
 
In two words: tax laws
A trade organization can receive large(r) amounts as "expenses" whereas "donations" are harder to make in size. It should allow the Consortium to get much better funding.
 
The R foundation is an Austrian charitable foundation, so have it join a US trade corporation would be quite complicated
 
I know what the Foundation has in the bank after a decade+ of existence. I am not going to share the number but what the Consortium has now after ten minutes of existence is a higher number. This matters.
 
And on the flip side it's very difficult for US businesses to give to an Austrian foundation
 
12:10 PM
@hadley So "R Consortium" isn't a US Trade Corporation?
 
Yep. We were there for a year+ and what Joe talked about was mostly the pre-decessor attempt, which stalled for these and other reason.
Can you see the website? I am sure it is as explicit as it gets. "Not a lawyer here" but the R Cons. is a not-for-profit entity.
 
The R consortium is, the R foundation isn't. The missions are similar, but the legal structure is different
 
Too much cross talk here. What is and what isnt what?
 
The R consortium is a 501(c)(6) US charitable organisation. The R foundation is an Austrian non-profit of some nature (I don't know exactly what)
 
So "The central mission of the R Consortium is to work with and provide support to the R Foundation" but due to (mostly US) tax laws they can't directly just give cash?
"they" being the constituent businesses
 
12:14 PM
@Spacedman exactly
@Spacedman the R consortium might also tackle projects that are more interest to the business community, and less interest to the largely academic R foundation
 
ah the word breaking problem is Firefox...
word-break: break-all; seems to be in there, and chrome ignores it
 
@Spacedman Moreover, a trade group is a bit more global so it could possibly get support from a British bank or a Swiss pharma co, whereas the first attempt was more US-centric. But R is global, and so should be the ability to support it -- in kind, or in hard cash.
(Annoying that all the relevant "starred" chatter is the FUD from y'day rather than something tangible and true from today. Oh well.)
 
and a "trade group" isn't a "trade corporation"
Wait a moment... Microsoft.. On a Linux Foundation web site... Is that a first?
 
@Spacedman I don't think either trade group or trade corporation have formal definitions. Most precisely it's a 501(c)(6)
 
12:31 PM
I'm reading the 68 page PDF from irs.gov about 501(c)(6)s now...
" business leagues, chambers of
commerce, real estate boards, boards
of trade, and professional football
leagues"
 
@Spacedman Possibly. We like that too.
 
So I think the RConsortium is a "business league" as defined in the regulations. But I think its impact on me is pretty minimal so I think thats it. Going back to closing stupid questions on DataScience now.
 
If you carefully read the fine print of the bylaws, you'll see that the R Consortium is a actually professional football league :P
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Q: root mean square error - significance of square root

akashrajknwhat is the significance of the square root in root-mean-square-error? In effect, my question is what is the difference between (rms error) and (rms error)^2 ?

that's got TWO stars, that has
 
migrate to data science, obviously
 
1:32 PM
migrate to /dev/null
ooh an even tricker one...
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Q: creating two different dataset

joymy data set contains 50000 records with 6 attributes and Time as one attribute. Time attribute has both date and time. The format is as follows. 1/1/2011 9:18 14-01-2011 16:58 24-03-2012 12:04 24-03-2012 14:31 I need to create two separate data set out of this with all attributes and time con...

 
 
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2:59 PM
@DirkEddelbuettel Nice to see you got out the wrong side of the bed again
No conspiracy theories here; my complaint was about the corporate-esque embargo & expectation that this will be religiously observed when speaking about it in public
My dig at Oracle was in jest; I began that comment with words to the effect that I was reserving any judgement until I had sufficient information to form an opinion
And @Spacedman's comments were clearly light hearted.
The only person being rude and throwing round accusations in here is you.
 
 
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4:31 PM
okay lets make a UseR bingo card package...
 
4:54 PM
there you do. install with devtools and then d=card(); cardplot(d)
 
5:29 PM
@Spacedman Are you at the conference yourself?
 
6:26 PM
@joran no, but its hard to tell these days...
 
 
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7:47 PM
Actually my passport expired in November and I've not bothered to renew it.
 

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