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2:11 AM
@BenBolker That just about makes my blood boil. It essentially translates to "If you're not in it for money, you're a fake."
Though I'm not sure I want to associate myself with the term 'data scientist' anyway. Actually, I'm sure I don't.
 
 
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7:57 AM
@Thomas I had to read this to understand the purpose of that badge.
 
8:36 AM
@Roland Yea, I just read the meta SE post about it and I'm not really sure it's all that useful.
But hey, it's shiny!
 
9:07 AM
I updated / fixed / created 3 packages on CRAN this week. Not sure it's a good thing that KH and BDR recognises one's name. Hopefully after today all my packages get accepted..
 
 
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10:50 AM
@Andrie if there was a parallel with chucknorrisfacts.com, it might go like "KH and BDR don't need a DESCRIPTION file to know your name, the style of your R code tells them everything they want to know".
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@baptiste Or maybe even just your use of english grammar
 
@Andrie true, I remember BDR replying to my package submission starting with "If I understood..."
 
He refused one submission because of the presence of a period at the end of the package title
 
the infamous Y tweet, I remember.
 
 
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2:32 PM
@Andrie If that kind of stuff matters for CRAN, then it should be in R CMD check, or at least CRAN policies. Whatever rules they want to have is up to them, but they need to be explicit (and not at the point of submission).
 
3:06 PM
Isn't managing all the CRAN submissions handled by essentially only 3 people? That seems incredible to me. Just the amount of correspondence with package authors seems like it would be overwhelming for that many people.
Opinion based (and prime snark bait, for all you pipe-haters): stackoverflow.com/q/26144579/324364
 
@Andrie there is an element of this; CRAN people know me now and BDR certainly lets a few things slide - once he admonished me for having generated the reference material for pkg A whilst using a development version of pkg B installed locally on which A depended. The only difference in output was version of pkg B in reference and that on CRAN. He let it slide though.
People I know who submitted anew pkg last week got bitten by him though; his comments are paraphrased here: github.com/ropensci/ecoretriever/issues/41
In which BDR complains about i) a minor grammatical error in their pkg DESCRIPTION but managing to misspell pkg name himself!, ii) a missing period at the end of a sentence, and iii) a missing URL to the software the package interfaced with. No explanation beyond this.
 
3:23 PM
Comical.
 
@JoshuaUlrich it would be if it didn't piss those people off though. These are mainly a python-using research group and they question the sanity of the community that enables this behaviour.
@Thomas I believe some of this is in Writing R Extensions or one of the other manuals. It's either in the section on the DESCRIPTION and/or writing Rd files or in R's Standards.
 
@GavinSimpson It makes me angry too, but I have to laugh at his behavior. It's similar to what I expect from a child. And I don't think you can argue that "the community... enables this behavior."
What's the community-at-large supposed to do? Fork everything because one guy acts like a child?
 
@JoshuaUlrich perhaps "puts up with" is better. I'm pretty sure something would be done if we all formally complained to the R Foundation etc (CRAN has special treatment in R by R Core so there is a link and should be accountable). Not that complaining would be productive; he could well withdraw all the stuff he does which truly helps the R ecosystem.
 
@GavinSimpson So they question the sanity of a community that puts up with this behavior... but I'd still disagree that putting up with his childish behavior isn't sane. What's the realistic alternative? I'm not sure there is one, short of someone else stepping up and taking the time to fight for BDR's fiefdom.
 
3:47 PM
@JoshuaUlrich You can vote with your feet. Nobody forces you to upload to CRAN. <shrugs>
 
@DirkEddelbuettel I have strongly considered that.
 
4:04 PM
@GavinSimpson His third point is arbitrary. I have several web API-type packages that do not link to or describe the API in detail. And I've received no complaints about it.
 
So my progress is 2/3 packages for the week. Latest request: Please title case the title.
 
YARLY
 
4:29 PM
I wish there was a "do not spoon feed the noobs they will never learn" flag stackoverflow.com/questions/26145942/…
 
4:51 PM
 
5:07 PM
GSee found what is probably a better duplicate than the one I chose. Is it worth reopening and re-closing...? stackoverflow.com/q/26146414/324364
 
@joran You should start a six-months long discussion on meta about how mulitiple 'duplicate of' fields are better...
 
5:26 PM
@DirkEddelbuettel That's a good suggestion! <thinks about it> Oh. Never mind.
 
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6:58 PM
@joran It is actually a r-faq
 
7:11 PM
@DavidArenburg Well, double drat, then! Oh well.
 

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