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1:44 AM
@JoshuaUlrich Excellent work!
 
 
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8:09 AM
@joran Who are you flogging? I haven't seen anyone leave with a bleeding back yet.
 
 
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12:04 PM
@AriB.Friedman And now delete please if you have the rep
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Q: RJAVA passing list as arguments

user1790894 Possible Duplicate: R passing list as argument to java How should I pass a list as parameter to java using R ? My Java function is <code> public String[][] readFromTable(String tableName, List<String> temp)

 
@GavinSimpson I do but only after two days of being closed, I think.
At least that's why I assume I don't see the delete button currently.
 
@AriB.Friedman Oh, odd, I see the delete button.
Oh, I see. At 20K you get Trusted user status and can delete immediately.
 
The 2-day restriction goes away for Trusted Users
precisely
so unless you can engineer a way around the daily rep caps to the tune of 7k... ;-)
 
1:06 PM
@RomanLuštrik Well, most of the floggings have been with a wet noodle, so the damage has been minimal.
 
1:53 PM
@Iterator Thanks! Where have you been?!?
 
 
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What might cause roxygen to completely ignore data set documentation directives in my package documentation .r file....?
 
@joran Your lack of enthusiasm.
 
@JoshuaUlrich I deserved that. Well done.
 
Who let the trolls out? Who? Who? Who let the trolls out?
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A: Forecast Package from R in Python

luke14freeSure you can. But before deciding to work with such a complicated framework why not giving a try to http://pandas.pydata.org/? It's faster than R and has a lot of goodies for time series. Furthermore it doesn't suffer from the license restrictions of R, which would affect you if you decide to use...

Because I would much rather give my years of work away under BSD so that someone else can pocket the upside? Err. no thanks.
Some of us actually make the GPL choice for a reason.
 
@DirkEddelbuettel that was worth giving up a hundredth-of-a-percent of my rep for a downvote
very satisfying
"how about I not answer your question, imply that I know how to, and point you towards another package for obnoxious reasons instead"?
 
3:45 PM
We win :) He just went away. And I just "arbitraged" @AriB.Friedman as I didn't have to "spend" a downvote myself. Muhahhaa. World domination soon ;-)
 
 
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5:27 PM
Wow that discussion was fun, sad I missed it :(
 
 
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7:41 PM
Fixing bugs is a nice feeling, as long as you don't think too hard about who put them there in the first place.
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That's the other side of meeting the 'younger you': oh what youthful exuberance and foolishness.
 
8:22 PM
@DirkEddelbuettel Do you think the current CRAN system will become untenable (in the sense of demands outstripping resources/manpower) and have to change in the near future? (...was skimming the r-devel messages about CRAN just now)
 
8:34 PM
what does CRAN give us? apart from Windows builds and dependency handling?
 
@Spacedman Maybe nothing particularly special about CRAN itself, but I suppose there are some benefits to having (basically) all packages housed under one roof.
 
@Spacedman C'mon now. I credit them with MASSIVELY increasing code quality. You and I are old enough to remember random tarballs and shar archives off netlib / statlib.
CRAN is so much better because of R CMD check and the steadily improving coding standards. Broadening acceptance of unit tests. Proper dependencies. Autobuilders.
Their work is HUGE and cannot be overstated.
I have defended them for years. But now even I get tired. I think the times are in fact changing, but I just don't see anyone providing a credible alternative -- which eg a set of random gists are not.
@joran It's complicated, and I don't know either.
 
anyone can run R CMD check...
 
everybody MUST run R CMD check to be on the repo. That is a difference that matters.
 
true, but that doesn't imply anything about tests
 
8:45 PM
"Anyone can" == "almost nobody does". Human nature. When did you last floss?
 
what does CRANs insistence of passing R CMD check give us - as a guarantee?
 
This is not going to be a fruitful discussion, and I am at work, so please excuse me now.
 
quality is still optional. is it checking mostly convention?
ok
its 9pm i should probably eat something...
 
 
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10:37 PM
@DirkEddelbuettel the day you can not only arbitrage but leverage downvotes SO will truly be yours
@Spacedman at very least it gives us documentation for every function. even if occasionally that just means you get to learn about the death of the package author's happy hacker keyboard.
 
11:16 PM
Not seen that. But all it guarantees is theres a compliant doc for each function. The doc could say nothing, or be wrong.
What cran doesn't supply is source code management. Much easier for people to collaborate on packages with github, for example. U could write packages with crap docs and people could contribute much more easily.
Yes, I know there are some packages on github, but its not integrated with installs, build, or dependencies etc..
 
11:35 PM
@AriB.Friedman :-) Well I did, didn't I? One comment here, total of four downvotes including one confession. So likely that I had leverage.
@Spacedman Funny how I could have (co-)authored one and a half dozen packages with different sets of people without using github then. Guess I just got lucky. #svnDoesNotExistForTheFanboys
@Spacedman CRAN also does not supply beverages. Or ponies.
Which is kinda sad as its mission of being an archive repository clearly says so. #ohBoyIGiveUpNow
 
11:55 PM
@DirkEddelbuettel :-P where's your SVN repo? where's your bug tracker? sourceforge? r-forge?
 
I have active repos on sourceforge, google code and r-forge which most activity on the latter.
 
imagine a site that was an integrated github+cran. development, plus builds and archive...
 
and a pony. Plus unlimited beer.
"Wishing alone does not make it so." Where to get the skilled resources? Man years of tool building?
 
someone had to imagine cran before it was built...
 
I remember when it was 40 packages, and had less of a toolchain need.
#tooLateNow
 
11:59 PM
people are already trying to work round some of the cran restrictions, like using knitr for vignettes... and i think cran are reacting by considering allowing those things
 

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