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user1804599
12:04 AM
TIL picard facepalm isn't facepalm but him rubbing his face because he's tired
 
tired of everyone's bullshit
 
@jaggedSpire :(
Have a snow corgi <3
 
@Borgleader meant it as more of what picard was doing while rubbing his face
@Borgleader holy hell that's adorable :D
it's like they're falling from the sky
 
oh man it's like he's a fuzzy snow dolphin
 
12:26 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes From the rust-language book: However, as we can only have one &mut at a time, it is impossible to have a data race. This is how Rust prevents data races at compile time: we’ll get errors if we break the rules. It really prevents all data races? It's probably my lack of experience with the language but I'm a bit skeptical.
 
12:39 AM
@Borgleader (as long as you don't use unsafe)
Also take it up with the Rastesians in the Rast room
 
1:15 AM
@набиячлэвэли No thx, I know I can trust The Robots opinions. I wouldnt know who knows their shit over there.
 
@Borgleader Shepmaster is one of the core contributors (to rast)
And Lukas is an artesian too
 
@jaggedSpire :o
This snoot needs to be booped.
 
2:01 AM
@Borgleader :O
 
@jaggedSpire This creature be majestic af
 
2:15 AM
such a beautiful floof
 
heh
 
2:43 AM
my sleep pattern is completely twisted...
 
 
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4:49 AM
Is there any point of using shared memory in CUDA on modern cards? For example, when dong image processing a common pattern is to store the pixel neighborhood in shared memory... But I'm thinking a modern GPU cache can figure this out?
And other languages like OGL handle this automatically?
 
5:06 AM
@Mikhail Yes sure when doing reductions
 
What? Do I have to write code with shared memory or can I rely on the GPU figuring stuff out?
 
Both, really
Many times shared memory doesn't bring anything
But some other times you need atomics, for example, and you wanna keep those in shared memory before going global
 
Okay, that is a good point. So I guess I have to use shared memory :-(
As a CUDA guy who is dong OGL, I'm always shocked that OGL can figure out things like thread per blocks, or even shared memory. Why the heck can't CUDA do this?
 
CUDA is lower level than OGL, in a way :w
You're explicit about a lot more things (and that's the point of CUDA)
 
@CheukKinSing Also as the only person here who seems to respond to CUDA. Has the community moved on from thrust:: ?
 
5:24 AM
Um, I'm not sure how much it's used in the wild. I answer thrust questions here and there. In my experience most people still do everything by hand.
I haven't worked in the HPC industry for ~2 years now so my knowledge could be out of date
 
HPC is weird place because they have the resources to do optimizations that wouldn't have a business case in other fields. The corollary is that these over-engineered codes become legacy and its difficult to muster resources to fix legacy code.

To save my time, I've moved as much as possible to thrust, but its lacking certain features, and the authors have been slow to add anything new: https://github.com/thrust/thrust/issues/856
Two years ago, for a commercial project I used OpenCV's unified mats for memory management, which worked out really well - but that was OCL.
 
5:55 AM
OCL needs serious help
 
6:07 AM
heh
I just introduced my Dad to numberphile
 
In my field, Intel did a lot to help with OCL adoption when they contributed to the unified mat architecture in OpenCV.
The real question is why the heck can't AMD/Intel write a CUDA compiler?
 
I'm pretty sure there is one if not several
 
nope
I know the guy at MulticoreWare who wrote a C++AMP compiler for Linux...
 
I caught that on HN recently, but I didn't try it because of the clumsy build environment. Also its wasn't clear how to integrate this with my existing codes that used CUFFT.
Drop-in replacement, or no dice
 
7:13 AM
all of these people are so enthusiastic it's amazing.
 
 
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9:20 AM
Shared memory version works 3/4x faster than relying on CUDA for caching the same things.
That is a pretty shitty cache.
 
sbi
9:33 AM
Is this homework or a worthy entry into the FAQ?
 
9:45 AM
not sure homework questions ever ask about future C++ features
 
10:11 AM
@wilx +1000
 
 
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11:30 AM
@набиячлэвэли My guess as well, and Eclipse agrees:
public static void f(Object x) { System.out.println("1"); }
public static void f(Object... x) { System.out.println("2"); }
public static void main(String[] args) { f(new Object[0]); }
@rightfold This prints 2 on my system.
 
11:44 AM
@fredoverflow What does f((Object)null); print?
 
Ell
12:11 PM
@Mikhail isn't it patented or something probably
 
1:21 PM
I'd be interested to see if you can submit your game.
Thanks to iOS 8 and the 64-bit requirement I was forced to recode my game from scratch (an RPG) from Cocos2D 0.99.5 to Cococ2D 3.4.
so upbeating
 
1:53 PM
@ProblemSlover Trump will be remembered either as the worst USA president ever or as president that fortunately did better than everyone expected. :)
 
@wilx yea. hopefully he wont get impeached ... liberals crying so much
 
If nothing else, his government will put stop to the argument whether rich industry bosses can make a good government even for the poor or not.
 
@wilx
Also I don't like the thing that china builds artificial islands in disputed areas . and dictates to US how they should treat their one china policy./ if they want decent treatment they must make north korea to stop development of nuclear weapons
 
@ProblemSlover Yeah.
 
sbi
@wilx Countless rich people have utterly and totally failed to do so over the centuries, and that has never stopped the conservatives from believing in this dream.
 
2:15 PM
@sbi So did many non-rich people. :)
I guess the argument will never be over then.
 
sbi
@wilx Indeed.
 
So Putin now is effectively the most powerful man in the world.. well done. I Wonder how things would work out if the intelligence agent was in the president 's chair of US as well
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow f(args); should print 1
 
Ven
2:32 PM
@rightfold did you know def f[T: a.SomeType](a: X) = ... was possible in scala?
 
Ell
@sbi or anybody else
 
3:02 PM
Hi ^_^
 
WTH is that?
@Morwenn Hello Handsome.
 
Aw :blushes:
 
@thecoshman Any results yet?
 
@wilx Looks like a machine in Valerian.
 
@Morwenn Valerian?
 
3:16 PM
@wilx One of the oldest French science fiction comics.
 
It is.
This is the machine I had in mind. Pretty different actually.
 
Valerian is a herb, the Czech equivalent of the name is "kozlík" "lékařský" which is basically "diminutive of billy goat" "medicinal"
 
Hehe, that also :D
Although it's valériane in French.
 
So, the name of the film is "Small billy goat and the city of thousand planets"... I know I am the only one who finds this funny. :)
 
3:27 PM
has anyone tried truffle for dinner? :P
https://trufflehunter.co.uk/product/black-winter-truffles-grade-a/
For such price tag 500 G = 1086.99 EURO? :P
 
@ProblemSlover That does not look too edible.
 
@wilx it has divine taste man
@wilx especially white truffle
 
@ProblemSlover I do not doubt that one man's poop is another man's manna. But thanks, no, thanks.
 
@ProblemSlover Of course, I often have some in my soup, with saffron and abalone.
 
Just look art those price tags for truffles
 
3:33 PM
Well, those are Alba truffles. Black truffles cost 10 times less.
 
@Morwenn yeah.. and ttaste... omg. really worth the cost :D
 
Dunno. I guess I've never eaten truffle.
 
user1804599
@Ven Nope, but it makes sense because the implicit parameter list introduced by the syntactic sugar comes after the explicit parameter list.
 
It's so expensive that I don't think I could even fully appreciate it.
 
@Morwenn 2 mac books pro 2017 for lunch :P
 
3:38 PM
Maybe I'd still prefer having lunch than a MacBook Pro.
 
Ven
@rightfold hah, true :D
@Morwenn à la différence des alba tros
 
...
 
user1804599
I need a new project.
 
Ven
@rightfold HTTP lib for Haskell that doesn't suck.
Since wreq is kinda dead...
 
user1804599
3:54 PM
xD
 
user1804599
wreqt
 
Ven
:'(
 
user1804599
Ah I know, I'm gonna work on my event processor.
 
user1804599
Implementing either wire protocol or Lua support.
 
4:40 PM
Woman Leads Four Minorities to Their Deaths New title for Star Wars - Rogue One https://youtu.be/PSF0JtTeD2k
^ lol
 
4:56 PM
are they minorities?
for all we know they could be majority in the star wards galaxy
 
hey
 
what the fuck do those thigns ever end
 
 
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7:38 PM
Spacex's satellite project is apparently to fund their Mars base. Meanwhile apple are 'brave' because they removed a headphone socket.
 
7:50 PM
It's because ~Apple~
They have a cult
 
Ell
I'm craving chicken
 
bwuk bwuk
 
Ell
but I do have some sugar free alpen and almond milk
 
glouglou
 
Ell
maybe that can satisfy the crave?
who am I kidding :'(
 
7:51 PM
Crave the satisfaction instead.
 
I'd try to help but I have no real recollection of what chicken tastes like so
 
IMO chicken tastes great.
Yesterday before our live, we were offered blanquette to eat.
 
Ell
@jaggedSpire IMO not all that much
but it has the texture
it's the 12 herbs and spices that make it so good
 
I don't recall being a fan of the texture either
 
Ell
btw jagged
 
7:56 PM
yeah?
 
Ell
have you ever tried making a dhal in a slow cooker?
 
I have not. I also lack a slow cooker.
 
Ell
ah I see
 
Eh, isn't a saucepan enough to make a dahl?
 
Ell
it is
but having it ready for me when I arrive home would be nice
I suppose I could make a big batch and reheat
but I have a slow cooker now and I want to use it :P
 
7:59 PM
Oh, I guess I'm a kitchen-technology retard then D:
 
how so?
 
I don't use or even own most of the modern & efficient stuff to cook stuff.
 
eh, there are reasons not to own lots of kitchen gadgets.
especially when some mixing bowls, pots, pans, spoons and spatulas will do just fine for most every day things
 
I guess the most evolved thing I bought was a whisk.
Because beating the egg whites by hand is a pain.
 
it really is
 
8:08 PM
And the cake I bake the most (a few times a year) requires me to beat the egg whites, so...
 
I have a mixture of normal and weird gadget-y things, since my parents gave me some of their stuff when they moved, and they had some weird gadgets
 
 
I also have a pasta roller extension for a kitchenaid mixer
 
Hehe :D
 
8:10 PM
lel
 
@sehe 11/10 would read again.
 
and a cranking cheese grater for hard cheeses
and something I'm pretty sure is for cutting butter into dough
 
@StackedCrooked Holy fuck. Everytime I look closely at some of our industry's corner activities, I get surprised. The amount of effort. The money.
That thing had ... what? 10 locomotives. Multiply by roughly $1m etc.
 
@jaggedSpire I had one of those at some point. Not sure whether we still have it.
 
@sehe I agree.
 
8:15 PM
Then that bridge. People would have to be really motivated to build all that to support humongous trains
 
Ell
@jaggedSpire my "weirdest" gadget is my lemon squeezer
@Morwenn what cake is it?
 
@Ell is it ezpz
 
Ell
ezpzlmnsqwez
 
heh
 
@Ell A financier with some pandanus.
I wanted to make a compressed pair type some with additional optimizations, but the standard constructors are a pain to implement :(
 
8:35 PM
I wonder, seen all the hacking videos from CCCen, if using JVM or other virtual machines based applications helps defending against those hacking attacks.
 
@wilx Given the (immense) number of critical patches to Java, probably not. If anything, rather the opposite: it gives hackers a single target via which they can attack all applications written in Java (and everything else that targets the JVM).
 
I think that in theory, it should do, but in reality, does not
 
A balanced verdict from the Pups
 
you know me, they call me the Balancemeister
 
8:58 PM
Hmm...it appears that Neil Butterworth is back, posting at least a few new answers to SO. For example: stackoverflow.com/a/41666220/179910
 
I can’t believe it’s Butterworth
 
do you guys still use irc?
 
Ell
occasionally
 
@slaphappy Never did (enough to notice, anyway).
 
Ell
I'm occasionally in #idris as a vampire
 
9:02 PM
 
oh, I meant the lounge chan
 
Ell
ah
no
 
@Borgleader of course.
@Morwenn there's something I'd like to run by you. Can we talk?
 
no
 
@slaphappy Sure, where would you like to talk?
 
9:12 PM
discord, unless you got a better idea
 
Eh, where is it again? I don't have the link anymore.
 
lol, well, you have an account, so just log in I guess
 
Hope I'll remember the password .___.
Ok, I need a new password...
 
Pa$$w0rd!
 
god123
 
9:17 PM
And the mail to change the password takes too long to get to my mailbox ç___ç
 
omg XD any other place is fine you know
 
What's the old lounge IRC then?
 
I don't know :3
 
#loungecpp
Found it again :p
 
#loungecpp is just the channel you need the server to go with that :P
 
9:20 PM
It's freenode.
 
9:46 PM
Euros from last Sherlock reminds me of the vampires from Echopraxia book.
 
10:30 PM
im in love with you right now, such a foolish mistake made by me, thanks! — Niv Ben Shabat 2 hours ago
lol
 
10:42 PM
Fox in a tree. @bioGraphic http://biographic.com/posts/sto/skeleton-tree
/cc @jaggedSpire
 
^_^
 
ack
 
looks to me like the dog's trying to decide if it should start snacking on them
 
user1804599
type Inventory = Itemwise Nat
 
11:10 PM
@JerryCoffin Well, many of the hacks exploit stack and memory overwrites and such which should not be a problem with JVM and similar.
 

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