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12:38 AM
Go to std::vector<std::string>. Go directly to std::vector<std::string>. Do not pass Go. Do not waste 200 hours. — Jerry Coffin 2 mins ago
 
lol, unless it's a homework question that specifically forbidden the use of any STL containers
 
@Telkitty Homework is prohibited on my Monopoly board.
 
good thing fixing that is really easy.
for you, yes
not so easy for a C++ newblet
 
@Telkitty Even for a newbie.
For me, of course, it's irrelevant--I wouldn't use an array in the first place.
 
1:15 AM
@jaggedSpire imgur.com/APGtd3D
 
@Borgleader :D
 
2:12 AM
The one thing that I'm never prepared for when I start new projects is the amount of research they require in order to identify a good approach. Definitely a good feeling when you don't need to modify a library to meet your needs :)
 
@Aaron3468 s/modify/create/
@ThePhD Good for you.
 
Haha, yes, perhaps you're correct
 
 
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3:55 AM
 
Freedom from x86!
Now, how the fuck did they make an x86 emulator???
 
Fantastic! I have a $350 arm tablet+keyboard thing that runs windows 10
 
Yes. I'm more excited for new hardware.
Chromebooks are awful.
 
It'll be great having full operating systems on small devices
 
There are those Atom tablets, but Intel lost commitment.
 
4:25 AM
@MarkGarcia how curious
 
@LucDanton The emulator is very interesting tech on its own. Also, more/better ARM hardware, especially laptops. Also a heads up for Intel.
 
tor is giving me timeout error, wot?
 
because tor
 
4:45 AM
@MarkGarcia wow
 
absolutely beautiful to gaze at, although not somewhere I want to live in
 
@LucDanton Also, the mythical Surface Phone might just become real!
 
5:27 AM
@MarkGarcia Why would they need to? Win 10 is still based on Windows NT, which ran on MIPS, x86, DEC Alpha, and PowerPC. They've had the core running as Windows RT on ARM for quite a while; getting full Windows on an ARM is mostly a matter of finishing the Windows RT port.
 
@JerryCoffin But they did it. It's in the news.
It's unclear if x64 will also be emulated.
 
@MarkGarcia Oh, I see what you mean--the x86 emulation. Again, not really new though. The DEC Alpha version of NT included an x86 emulator--and the Alpha was enough faster than any x86 chip of the time that the emulation on a high-end DEC was faster than any real x86 at the time.
 
@JerryCoffin I'd rather have that too, a simple port. Recompiling apps should be easy. But I guess they're thinking of all the enterprise software they ought to support and most source code would have probably been lost by now.
@JerryCoffin Ah yes, I remember reading an old magazine on that.
 
@MarkGarcia I dunno. At least IME, emulation is all right if you have a few things you run once in a great while, but I certainly wouldn't buy ARM hardware if I intended to run x86 software much. Maybe others see things differently though.
 
It's the "killer app" for their Continuum technology. Technically you can now have a phone that would run Win32 apps.
Well it was possible before, but Intel got lousy.
 
5:39 AM
@MarkGarcia And how many Win32 apps are actually designed to run on a puny screen, rotate on demand, etc? Pretty much: existing Windows phone apps--all 3 of them.
 
@JerryCoffin It's the "Put the phone in the dock and do things like in a desktop." experience they're aiming for.
I remember reading somewhere that this is really Microsoft's original vision (back in the Windows 8 era) for mobile. It's only coming to fruition now.
 
6:00 AM
@MarkGarcia We'll see what happens, but my immediate guess is that it doesn't go very far. If you had enough storage on-board a phone to store what you typically do on your desktop (so you really had it all in a portable package) that'd be useful. If you're really just putting a CPU to multiple purposes...well, CPUs are pretty cheap (especially slow ARMs). IOW, we're putting together a lot of infrastructure to save a little bit on a commodity that's already pretty cheap.
 
 
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Ven
7:04 AM
Hi
 
Sam
Hi :)
 
@JerryCoffin I think the other benefit is that the phone could behave as an external monitor, but I totally agree that it would be a hamstrung pc
 
It's intuitive, but god you need a compiler to each language
 
Ven
8:08 AM
I guess @fredoverflow ^ as well :-).
 
this looks like a branch the guy caught into while hiking
but do not let nature's looks deceive you!!!
Ctenomorpha gargantua is a species of stick insect endemic to northern Australia. It was first found in Northern Queensland. A captive breeding program is run by Museum Victoria. == References == == External links == Ctenomorpha gargantua at the Encyclopedia of Life...
it's this insect
 
> If you have a child who’s offended by this, you are raising a weak, drama-filled child
Jesus fuck, people expect kids these days to be ready to receive news about the death of their classmates?
 
8:27 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes what the actual fuck
not sure how more wrong can you be while trying to make a point
Not to mention, lying about such things automatically makes them trust unworthy, and being trust unworthy is a moral suicide for a school
 
I never trusted my school anyway
don't trust anyone
 
I think there's a difference between "no trust" and "distrust".
Someone who has shown willingness to orchestrate such a ruse is lower on the trust ladder than someone who has done nothing.
 
8:47 AM
Hello folks
 
@AlexM. creepy
nice shirt though
 
There are more important things to get offended about, like not knowing shit about aggregate initialization /cc @CheukKinSing
 
Is @CheukKinSing ParkYoung-Bae
 
TIL the weak force violates charge conjugation.
Meaning that if you replace all matter with the corresponding antimatter (charge conjugation), the universe behaves differently.
 
8:58 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes In what way differently? Link?
 
“The police came out and stopped the demolition, but it was too late there was only one wall left”
 
@Telkitty Haha, that sounds so bad.
 
@wilx yeah, lol
 
@Telkitty Well, will they be rebuilding the house anew or just paying compensation?
 
no eye deer
 
8:59 AM
In physics, C-symmetry means the symmetry of physical laws under a charge-conjugation transformation. Electromagnetism, gravity and the strong interaction all obey C-symmetry, but weak interactions violate C-symmetry. == Charge reversal in electromagnetism == The laws of electromagnetism (both classical and quantum) are invariant under this transformation: if each charge q were to be replaced with a charge −q, and thus the directions of the electric and magnetic fields were reversed, the dynamics would preserve the same form. In the language of quantum field theory, charge conjugation transforms...
Should be a good starting point.
(I should have said "TIL the weak force violates C-symmetry"; "charge conjugation" describes the transformation, not the expected result)
 
Wait
Where did the rules link go?
It's Undefined Behaviour and thus anything can happen to you if you don't read The Rules.
 
Not enough bold.
 
Not enough all caps?
 
@GillBates pinned stars get unpinned after 2 weeks
 
Ven
Yoyoyo
@GillBates bold please
 
9:14 AM
@ratchetfreak Yeah but usually someone follows up
Why is the edit timeout so short
Why can't we have nice things in this life
 
@GillBates It's two minutes man. You're slooow.
 
Blame the boss
 
Xeo
Read The Rules™. Failure to do so results in undefined behaviour.
15
 
# du -sh docker/devicemapper/devicemapper/data
2.9G    docker/devicemapper/devicemapper/data
# ls -lh docker/devicemapper/devicemapper/data
-rw------- 1 root root 100G Dec  8 02:09 docker/devicemapper/devicemapper/data
#
 
Gill Bates got rulecucked
 
9:18 AM
Not sure how to interpret this.
 
Well that's not the first time that happened.
 
Try wc -c
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's a sparse file.
 
@Griwes Ah, right.
I guess I'll tar it.
 
Ven
9:35 AM
@Xeo feeling playful? :p
awk '/./' # them empty lines
.oO( sed-awk polyglots are hard to FnGN )
 
9:52 AM
super sad times we made ourselves live in
 
> just a code diva ranting about feminism & tech while laughing very loudly & wearing cute clothes with some seriously curly hair. she/her. bi.
 
Are you triggered again?
 
confirming your worst fears: yes, all women in tech do know each other and YES we do talk about you.
o no my worst fear has been confirmed
 
@BartekBanachewicz Why do you waste so much energy on twitter?
 
she's scary as fuck
 
9:56 AM
@Abyx yeah
@Rerito yeah
 
You should really learn the ability not to give a fuck about things
 
Also "I talk and tweet about tech" from someone whose biggest GH repo has 4 stars and is a bunch of shitty ruby code
Oh wait was it "rant about tech"
 
@Rerito but! what if they take over the world! we have to stop'em!
 
I wonder if she also rants about cyber
 
@BartekBanachewicz people with more stars tend to spend less on talking
and more on writing
(code)
 
9:57 AM
ruby is still better than php
 
@BartekBanachewicz Well my "biggest" gh repo has maybe 1 star or smth :D
 
Still haven't heard back from the rental people.
 
What about that debt w/ the phone company?
 
What about it? I'll probably have to pay it anyway because it's in the contract.
 
@Abyx yeah, but back in my day people whose biggest article was "modules in ruby" didn't speak at conferences
I bet she speaks about diversity or some other thing like that
 
9:59 AM
no shit
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes How high is it?
 
About one month's rent.
 
High enough that it feels painful to pay it, but still low enough that I can pay it off in one go if I want.
 
fuck me.
 
10:00 AM
@BartekBanachewicz yep, better than her
 
Yeah, still pretty painful especially when xmas is coming
 
> Has received more attention than necessary from:
Bartek Banachewicz 1
5
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes wait how could that happen
also I need a coffee and a sandwich
 
@BartekBanachewicz Several months of unpaid phone bills without the "new contract discount".
 
Let me get this straight
You switched phone companies or smth but you forgot to cancel you previous subscription
 
10:03 AM
You know like "Only 10 bucks* a month! *50 bucks after a year" sort of thing.
 
In the meantime, you moved out but since you forgot about that first company you didn't update your coordinates
And then the unpaid bills stacked and that made your credit score plummet
 
@Rerito Right.
Gonna call them now and ask what's up.
Knowing that I'm not getting the place is better than silence.
 
what does the rent have to do with mobile phones
> A credit score is a numerical expression based on a level analysis of a person's credit files, to represent the creditworthiness of the person.
landlords don't ask for this here
 
Well, it's getting pretty insane here what the landlords do so I'm not surprised they do so in Germany
 
lmao
 
10:09 AM
(they called my workplace to make sure I was indeed working there)
 
if this were the case here
I'd go full steam ahead to get a credit and buy my own place
than deal with a bunch of retards
 
hint: you'ld deal with the same bunch of retards while trying to get the said credit
well not the same bunch exactly, but the same retardness
 
na I'd rather deal with a bank than with people whom I know I owe money to and own the place
 
@AlexM. Probably harder to get a loan with a bad credit score than to get a rental contract.
 
at least the bank isn't able to go thru my apartment whenever they want
and make me clean after them
@R.MartinhoFernandes "if that were the case here" not "if I was in robot's shoes"
 
10:12 AM
@AlexM. Well, it's basically the same. You owe money to the bank and they essentially own the place.
 
and real estate prices are through the roof here
 
> at least the bank isn't able to go thru my apartment whenever they want
and make me clean after them
and technically, you can sell the apartment if you want
 
iunno about berlin but paris is indeed crazy expensive
 
as long as you pay back the loan the bank doesn't care
 
My landlord doesn't have a key.
 
10:13 AM
good luck selling your landlord's apartment
 
He always has to ask what times I am home if he wants to check on something.
 
yes then he always proceeds to come in without taking his shoes off
like he owns the place (which he does)
I know
 
@AlexM. how costly is your rent wrt your salary?
 
about 1/4 of monthly paycheck
for a 2 room w/ small yard
(0th floor)
useful to hang clothes to dry but not for much else :D
also ugly because the landlord did not invest in decorations
 
10:21 AM
@AlexM. wait can your landlord do that
 
sure they can come in and check stuff whenever they want
 
@AlexM. that's super mean
 
it's their apartment
what am I going to say "stay out of your apartment it's mine now"
 
@AlexM. That's sort of how it works in all places I've lived.
If they rent the apartment to you, they're not entitled to come in without your permission.
 
you should watch that episode of "B--- in apartment 23" when she rents James' place out
even there the random couple who got conned into that ask "is it common for the realtor to just come in with their friends whenever they please"
(hint: it's not)
 
10:25 AM
Of course if you say "no, leave and never come back" they'll probably start legal action, but if you say "can you come tomorrow at noon instead", there's not much they can do.
 
Here they must warn you before they come in
(And ask for your approval)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I already told you
that doesn't solve the problem of having to clean up after them
lmao
I don't care when they come in, when I don't want them to come in at all
 
@AlexM. I'd need to cleanup before they come.
I'd need at least a day or two.
 
o yea
having to put things in order
because otherwise I'd look bad
I remember that too
bro I'd take a bank over this any day
 
banks can be assholes too
 
10:29 AM
@AlexM. Why didn't you?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's a huge commitment, innit
what if Alex decides to move to LA
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes because I don't even thing I meet the criteria
I'm still in college
 
or meets a super sexy chick with a bigass house
 
and after I finish college I don't think I'll stay in the city anymore
 
I don't know what yours checks, but mine just checks for damage and stuff like that. I actually think that's a good thing because if he says everything is alright and then shit breaks down, it's hard to fault me because he kept checking and saying it's alright.
 
10:31 AM
see the checking part too
 
but yeah I have to say that owning a place is generally a much less stressful experience
 
you're sitting in someone else's place not yours
if you break something you need to answer to someone else
 
OTOH you can't really tell the neighbours to fuck off nearly as readily
 
I don't want my place checked lol
 
@BartekBanachewicz Except for all the stress of dealing with owning a place.
 
10:32 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I didn't encounter many tbh
 
I.e. it's yours, so you can't just move elsewhere if the walls start crumbling.
 
actually
I don't see why I wouldn't be able to move out
 
If it's not yours, someone else has to deal with all the house-related stuff.
 
if I knew I'd sit in this city for the foreseeable future and I had my degree
 
also it's just a flat, they don't require nearly as much maintenance as houses
 
10:33 AM
trust me I'd get the loan
especially since monthly payback for the loan is even less than my rent
lmao
 
@BartekBanachewicz You could, but you'd still need to fix the place before you sell it.
 
@AlexM. it's probably better to pay it off earlier if you can though
 
yes
if I have the chance to pay more than the monthly I will obv
get rid of it asap
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Actually people buy a lot of flats here in questionable condition because they want to renovate them anyway
 
That's an even bigger commitment.
 
10:34 AM
like after we got it we tore down everything down to concrete (well except the floors)
 
If it's not yours you move and never look back. It's just different kinds of stress.
@BartekBanachewicz You can sell it off without finishing the loan.
 
if I moved abroad I could technically still keep paying rent for that place
@R.MartinhoFernandes I got super tired of moving every year, though. And if you can plan for like 5 years then having your own place is super nice
We'll eventually move out of here, but there's no pressure etc.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'd buy unfinished
and save the top part of the loan for finishing
if it's mine might as well make it look the way I want
 
@AlexM. you can't always do that though
here if you want the government subsidy you can't take it for more than 100% of the value I think
 
I'm sure things can be worked out with the guy selling the place
the cost of stuff like flooring and furniture + appliances is minuscule compared to the cost of an apartment
 
10:44 AM
um, not really
it can easily reach 20-30%
 
I'm looking at basic necessary stuff
not the furniture from Trump's penthouse
 
it still costs a lot
 
I really doubt that relative to the cost of the apartment
 
here basic finishing of the apt starts at around 700PLN /msq
the flats go for about 4000-6000/msq
 
you mean the land
 
10:46 AM
Jesus fuck everyone adds me to code reviews in this place.
 
@AlexM. the flat surface area
 
I'll be reviewing code till the cows come home.
 
I don't know how to obtain a finishing price/msq
but adding up all the things I want and the cost of workers to do it
it's still way less than the price of the apartment lol
 
@AlexM. 20% is also way less, but it's substantial
also if you get cheap labourers you'll get cheap finish
which I'm sadly regretting in my kitchen
I had two different guys do some things here, and one of them was about 4x as expensive as the other one
he also was about 4x better in terms of quality. Go figure.
 
See, different things to stress about.
 
10:50 AM
when I say way less I mean < 5%
(consider apartments cost differently from area to area)
 
We're going to opensource a lib for reading sound files sometime soon :D
Don't tell anyone.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes
 
@AlexM. I am pretty sure you're underestimating
 
the same things you stress about
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes cool
 
10:51 AM
if the landlord made the same poor choices
and you end up having another set of workers visit you
and make a mess
the only upside of renting is that you can move easily
 
@AlexM. I mean heck Ikea furniture for a small flat would be about €3-5k. Then at least 1-2k for labour, another 1k for raw materials. Realistically that's going to be at least, minimally 6k. That would mean your place would cost more than 120k€?
 
it's just living in someone else's apartment
with the lack of freedom it entails
if you also end up with a landlord who's a legit asshole
it's pretty much gg
 
Dunno, maybe in Romania.
 
yeah some landlords are ok
 
Elsewhere it seems that the law favours tenants.
So landlords are less likely to be dicks after you rent.
Which is also why they're so anal before you rent.
 
10:55 AM
There are shitty landlords everywhere, you just have to watch out for them
Last place we rented we weren't bothered at all ever
 
@BartekBanachewicz My current landlord bothered us to ask if we wanted more furniture :D
Took us to the flat upstairs and gave us the pick of the furniture there.
 
11:10 AM
An app with ratings for landlords.
Gimme the money.
 
Ell
11:32 AM
My landlord is absolutely terrible
We have mice :(
 
who have lice
that don't play nice
 
Ell
There are mice in my house
Also raw sewage outside front door :thumbsup:
I'm calling them again about that later
 
don't forget
there's about 8 people crammed in your flat with you
 
Ell
What I find funny is that they still arrange viewings when there is a pool of sewage just past the front door and tthe stench hits you as soon as you walk through the gate
 
11:37 AM
you're basically a less funny clown car
 
Ell
We're calling environment & health people if they don't give us a firm date by tomorrow
Well, soon anyway :V
@AlexM. lol
A sad clown car
 
@Ell In what God forsaken 4th world country do you live again?
 
did I remember the number right tho
was it 8 or more
 
12:55 PM
Not to be mean or anything, as a landlady, I too, check applicants and choose the best. If you in your landlords shoes, you will do the same
 
> checks so tenants don't happen to have debts
> swims in debt herself
k
 
mon héro
 
FWIW, the problem is not about simply having debts, it's having failed payment on them.
 
time after time, it proves, if you are sympathetic, there is a great chance(> 30%) you will end up with tenants who will be 6 weeks behind in rent although theoretically you can serve them vacating notice when they are 2 weeks behind
 
@ChemiCalChems IDGI
 
12:59 PM
@wilx it's organic chemistry. Hydrocarbons with only single bonds use the suffix -ane, hydrocarbons with double bonds use the suffix -ene, and hydrocarbons with triple bonds use the suffix -yne
 
in reality, things are more complicated ...
 
@ChemiCalChems Ah.
 
it's not about how rich or how poor you are, it's the likelihood that you will make the rent payments as you promised on the contract
 
so they just made a pun with putins face and a triple bond between them
 
1:00 PM
Putilidene
 
diputilyne?
 
is this the best queen song
sure is for me right now
 
Ven
queens or fat bottomed girls?
 
@AlexM. bohemian rhapsody is way better imo
 
We have land tax to pay on the land, council rates and fixed water charges, we need to fix anything that's broken in the rental property and a huge mortgage. Just because tenant doesn't make their obligation, it's not like we can stop paying all those as well ...
and in older houses, cockroaches will likely to be a problem, pest control once a year is not enough and pest control cost $$
also insurance on property will cost an army & a leg too
 
> We are creating a great picture about Finland into peoples mind, good job.
here's a tip
I'd rather go to a beer with the guy on stage and everyone there who thinks he's funny
not with you
 
It's truly something special.
 
I lived in a new house, built 3.5 years ago, and I killed 6+ cockroaches in the house in the past week or so
Partially thanks to the chickens
 
Ell
1:28 PM
@wilx united kingdom :D
Tbf, it's the cheapest property in the area
And £55/w cheaper than my rent last year
 
@Ell :D
 
@wilx inb4 "it's all the immigrants' fault!"
Make UK Grate Again.
 
Ven
feeling playful?
 
-2
Q: C++ how to manage large size programs?

Aayush SinghI am working on turboc++, i have made a graphics.h program it works fine when it is small(its not that small I still need to increase the size of memory model from small to medium) in size but as i proceed on by adding more lines of code it just stops displaying anything on the output sscreen wit...

Turbo C++ / Large Size Programs /cc @Mysticial
 
Turboc is also my favorite compiler
 
1:43 PM
Turbok++
 
@Borgleader lol there's a tag . I think I should start subscribing to it
this is gonna be fun
I mean just look at this
 
Turbok: Legacy Bug Hunter
 
user1804599
@Ven yeah saw it
 
user1804599
awful
 
user1804599
Martin went full Bjarne.
 
Ven
1:57 PM
:/
Solving non-problems is an amazing way to waste the excess of money you might've. I guess.
 
btw what's Martin doing
I haven't heard of him ever since me and Lori stalked his wi..
I mean
ever since he disappeared
 
He came here to say he was swamped in work.
 
Ven
Martin Löffe?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I remember that
but it was like almost 2 years ago
(maybe less)
no words since then?
 
Not that I know of.
 

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