« first day (2242 days earlier)      last day (2698 days later) » 
00:00 - 16:0016:00 - 00:00

user1804599
12:04 AM
There's this guy Hardy Jones on Twitter and people he follows block him because they think he's a spam account
 
@rightfold Does he actually spam?
 
user1804599
No, he posts interesting content.
 
user1804599
But because of his name lol
 
user1804599
Reminds me of @jboner
 
12:36 AM
@MooingDuck I thought it's to the contrary - coming out of ice age. Creature were bigger, exactly because it's colder
 
12:51 AM
@rightfold proof? That'd need to be a bit of a dumb twitter handle, because the name doesn't readily imply anything obscene
@wilx Daily Mail
There's a whole part of the world who wants to believe that all of Europe is riddled with "muslim-only zones" where "even the police don't dare go" etc. This has been going on for a long time.
I'm willing to bet isolation & brainwashing is a real problem in fundamentalist sub-cultures, but (a) that's not just muslims (b) not anywhere near the scale of of that report. They'd have to be cherry-picking on the very gullible out of those communities.
The point is, the report can generate real funds. Like, big money agenda. Show us reason for fear and we can pass those anti-privacy laws and fund the military, etc.
Besides, just click around on that site. Every single topic is milked for sensation.
 
@sehe I know. But I don't have the spare time to get it to a more decent number like 400K really quickly.
 
:)
 
meh, trying to add signature in a pdf using preview on macbook, half of the times the signature goes behind the textbox
@JerryCoffin with that amount of reps, head hunters at tech companies must be throwing themselves at you like a bunch of hungry piranhas on a elephant in the river ...
(disclaimer: I just want to say 'hungry piranhas' in the previous sentence)
 
1:16 AM
@Telkitty It's strange. In the movies, piranhas are utterly voracious. In reality, the ones I've seen were actually kind of shy--had a very sharp eye for when they were being watched, and wouldn't eat as long as you were watching.
 
@sehe British and American media have had strong positions on Muslim culture lately... I'm legitimately a bit worried because it foreshadows more open hostility
 
I'm okay with strong positions.
I'm not okay with misinformation/fear mongering.
 
@JerryCoffin Does that apply to hungry piranhas as well? It's like asking whether a moderator would ban you or whether an angry moderator would ban you for the same thing ... coz ... mood is important ...
 
@Telkitty That I don't really know.
@sehe Yes--and it's particularly difficult when you can stilt things (badly) without telling any overt lies, just by being selective about what you report, and what you decide to ignore.
 
The simple act of discussion can show intent (particularly when the problem discussed is a malignant one). Posing a fact as a problem can become a problem itself.
I feel that the level of discussion in media right now is quite a bit higher than I normally see and greater than I think the matter justifies.
@Telkitty Interesting question, but I think marine biologists would benefit the most from the answer
 
1:49 AM
 
Calculus is giving me trouble lately because some theorems require an intuitive sense of mathematical type. Highschool mathematics did not prepare me to discriminate f(4) and f(a), both of which can be constant or variable depending on context.
I would not be a fan if math were a programming language :/
 
2:05 AM
@Aaron3468 What is that? "Level of discussion"? To me there is no such thing as a "too high" level of discussion. The only way in which that hurts, if it distracts from more important topics (like, whether the moon landing was a hoax)
> GERNADE
 
:) Yes, that's true
 
@sehe Yes I noticed, whoever made should have proofread. Oh well. Still found it funny despite that horrendous mistake.
 
Grenades don't work that way, though
 
@Borgleader A geart improvement in spelling.
 
2:44 AM
@sehe Derpnade
 
@Aaron3468 What do you mean by saying that f(4) can be variable? Are you referencing the fact that function f can vary or something else? Because 4 is a constant and so is f(4) because a function can only ever have one range for a given domain. Not exactly sure what you're getting at.
 
That I'm very bad at intuiting that f(4) is a constant, f(x) is probably a function, and that Integral(5)dx isn't a constant. In other words I'm hopeless at calculus. I make lots of swiss cheese statements and ordinarily complain when people point out the holes ^^;
 
Personally, I'm still learning Differential Calculus on my own accord, so I don't exactly understand how to evaluate Integral(5)dx yet. :P
I do, however, have a few assumptions I could make about going about it, but that's all they are---assumptions. :|
 
3:02 AM
@KingCodeFish I suppose there are times when f(x) can be both a function and a constant. My head asplodes with that kind of ambiguity...
Definite integrals are the opposite of derivatives (slope). They're basically areas. So Integral(5)dx is 5 times a dimension of x... 5x. It's not as simple an operation as multiplying by x, but it's a closely related concept.
 
3:42 AM
I swear argv and argc are complicated to me. How does one open just one file using argc argv?
and hello guys btw
 
@NathanDrieling Here you go, a quick google search explains it. The hard part can sometimes be path formats for each platform.
 
@Aaron3468 thanks. My c++ teacher is making us turn a tree program and do our final exam tomorrow.. #finalexamproblems ;p
 
Yeah, essentially, argc is the number of arguments, and argv contains a collection of strings, each of which are the individual arguments.
About all there is to it; i.e., depending on the implementation.
 
argcount and argvalues if that helps
 
^
Then you could just use some STL File IO functions to respond to whatever arguments are supplied to the program.
Regarding our brief Calc talk earlier, I basically understand the integral of a function as the area under that curve. Passed that, I have no clue.
 
4:11 AM
morning
 
lol, it's 11 PM here.
 
6AM
 
good luck with that
even if regulator relax the rules, there is a possibility that Apple self driving car is going to hit someone and get sued for hundreds of million dollars
 
The cool thing about self-driving cars is that people won't be sued for accidents anymore :) Companies would have a huge incentive to make safe, reliable AI for them
 
If a self-driving car is at fault in a fatal accident, who gets the blame then?
 
4:21 AM
too bad the whole focus on crashes the average individual has leads to them thinking that if self driven cars can crash they shouldn't be a thing
I mean sure fully crash-less sd cars are a goal worth aspiring to
but we must not lose the idea that if sd cars lead to less crashes on average than human drivers
then it's still a very important success for our safety
so for all intents and purposes the goals of sd cars is just to crash less than humans
which based on stats pulled out of my ass, should not be very hard
I did not read up on stats
 
@Aaron3468 I tried the answer for that link you sent about argv argc. since Im using just one file, it says I have 1 argument. Then it shows a bunch of zeroes
;p
 
There you go. Now try calling your program through cmd/terminal: "myprog.exe hello". You should have two arguments then
 
ok. Well this is for another crazy president program.. but this time its for binary search trees. I have all the code necessary for the tree.. Its just Argc argv that I have to solve here.
 
5:02 AM
@AlexM. A quick Google seems to show that human error is responsible for 93% of car crashes.
 
not the stat I was looking for
I was looking more at crashes/year and such
 
Yeah but, if an AI makes fewer mistakes than a human while driving
 
but that was obvious
and your comment was snarky
 
It inevitably means fewer crashes
 
yep
all I said in short is
the goal for research should be crash-less cars, which is the hard most likely impossible to reach goal that leads to as much improvement as possible over time
the minimal success criteria for the sd car experiment should be a lower rate of accidents compared to humans
the latter is what users should focus on too
but unfortunately they seem not to
even though it's in their interest
both short and long term
 
5:08 AM
@AlexM. Equal to humans is really the minimum criteria. Better than humans is desirable, but not strictly necessary (though it is nearly inevitable).
 
I'm weary of saying equal is minimum
in fact I felt like rewriting my claim
because even "lower" felt inaccurate and ambiguous
lower enough so that paired with costs it's a better alternative than human drivers?
anyway even if in the immediate future "lower" really means a very low percentage, I've no doubt that as reiterations go on
it will reach a good percentage
eventually
hey, for a dose of funny
back when the first cars were brought up
people went all crazy, saying things like "how could a human be more reliable than a horse?"
fearing accidents
the first accidents were obviously highlighted like hell
as will the first accidents caused by sd cars (I wouldn't want to be in the shoes of the company killing their first human)
it's just the way things work
now it takes a really bad car accident to make the news, regular accidents are so common nobody really cares about them
 
@AlexM. I think it'll quickly reduce costs for most drivers most of the time. Just for example, how much faster do people wear out their brakes and tires by braking later than they should? How much gas do we waste by accelerating faster than necessary, even though it just means we'll soon be hitting the brakes harder? Better still, how many extra lanes do we build just to compensate for people being lousy at driving at all close to each other?
@AlexM. ...except to the extent it affects them personally (e.g., "damn, 2 accidents--gonna take an extra N minutes to get home from work.")
 
don't forget the time and fuel we waste while synchronising with other drivers (intersections are a good example)
(I admit this came to mind first because I had to sit in traffic for half an hour yesterday, trying to get out of a parking lot)
 
@AlexM. Short summary: examples abound.
 
5:32 AM
ppl vs trees
if you are going to have more people in the city, you will have to cut down more trees
keeping reproducing more children, depleting more resources, leaving nothing to escape the doomed planet, humanity goes boom inevitably ...
 
I have to do too many different things today :(
gotta take a shower then obviously wait to cool down then go to the other part of town to my ISP
then a haircut then a pizza
and haircut means yet another shower when I come back argh
 
5:49 AM
Driving is complex because cars and roads are. It's quite uncommon for people to be skilled at C++... ahem driving
 
So apparently, my 8-core box can't handle Crysis 1 at 1440p on high settings. That game is 8 years old.
My laptop can do it at 1080p on high no issues.
 
the usual case of slowdowns caused by deprecated APIs and whatnot?
 
Hahaha, I hear that's one of the most graphics intense games out there
 
More like, I have a shitty video card in my 8-core Haswell.
My laptop is better for graphics intensive gaming.
 
for the record
my GTX 760 cannot handle GTA Vice City with a clean framerate
 
5:59 AM
I would've thought that 8 years later, any video card would do it on max settings at any resolution.
 
if I increase the draw distance above minimum
so a game being too old for new hardware and drivers
is definitely a thing
 
That game took something like two years before gpus caught up with it if I recall. It's still quite notorious for being hard on computers, though not as much as it was.
 
My 2 x X5482 Xeon with a GTX 9800+ was able to handle it at 1024 x 720 on medium settings.
The game isn't well threaded, so all the cores didn't matter.
 
that definitely sounds fishy
because I was running crysis on high (not maxed out) I think
 
But that would've been a 3.2 GHz Core 2.
 
6:02 AM
on an ati x1600
x1600 was from the 8800 era
 
The game was CPU-bound on Core 2 and Nehalem.
It was GPU bound on my Sandy @ 4.6 GHz with a GTS 250.
And very GPU-bound on my Haswell @ 4.0 GHz with a GTX 750 Ti.
Even after I pinned the game to two cores so it would stop throttling.
Crysis 2 runs at max settings 1440p no issues.
 
because Crysis 2 is all about corridors and closed spaces
no more open island
 
True
I liked Crysis 1 better for that reason.
 
that's when getting sales rather than benchmark results kicked in
getting hype for graphics is good, but if only 10% of buyers can max out your game...
 
Probably less than that.
You need a completely maxed out system to stand any chance.
With the exception of my laptop, my machines aren't properly balanced for gaming.
 
6:08 AM
@AlexM. Yeah, I'm probably off quite a bit. I do know that I read a lot of articles about how it was such a difficult game to max
 
Dan
anyone develop c++ / wxwidgets on a mac and know if system integrity protection hoses default wxwidgets code?
 
@Dan we have a dedicated room for questions

C++ Questions and Answers

Solve problems and approach solutions. Just ask and lurkers wi...
 
Dan
@AlexM. ahh ok thx
 
@Aaron3468 You basically needed a Core 2 Duo overclocked to something like 4 GHz. And then dual SLI of the highest end graphics cards.
I believe the Skulltrail system could do it with the right cards.
 
6:38 AM
@sehe I am reading what you said as "I do not like what the report says hence I will assume it is not actually reflecting reality."
 
6:58 AM
here's something you haven't seen in a while
 
7:12 AM
Yello
aand looks like nobody's here
 
Ven
7:27 AM
Hi
 
8:05 AM
@wilx That's a conscious choice by you. I can't help that. In fact I gave you reasons why I think it likely that the report could be biased or even simply overstated/misquoted.
Don't tell me you haven't heard of prequels to that, like Birmingham is a totally Muslim city
It's ok if you want to take any report at face value (I don't remember you being quite as willing with the wage-gap figures from your own government site), and especially the tone of reporting on the Daily News. Suit yourself.
 
don't you worry, trump is doing fine
Ppl who elected him hoped that he would light a fire to bring warmth to cold winter
he did light a fire, which is going to burn the whole town down
but US stock market is doing fine, USD is doing fine, because it's just a kindle at the moment
give it time, give it time, hahahaha ...
 
8:41 AM
I think Donald Trump bashing China on Twitter without any guidance from State is the sort of bold action that will re [nuke goes off]
 
8:55 AM
@sehe Item 37 in executive summary of the report:
> [...] One striking illustration of such segregation came from a non-faith state secondary school we visited where, in a survey they had conducted, pupils believed the population of Britain to be between 50% and 90% Asian, such had been their experience up to that point.
 
Ven
Well at least he's not Gandhi.
 
an eye for an eye only serves to make the whole world blind
proceeds to launch nukes
to be fair
if you completely wipe an enemy
he won't be able to take revenge
so you sacrifice part of your soul and morals
to stop the vicious cycle before it even begins
def sth gandhi would do
always remember there are no wars when there's just one side
 
Ven
if there's just one side, it'll find a way to split up into many more sides
 
as long as producing nukes takes fewer turns
that's fine
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
9:13 AM
@wilx I didn't realize Daily Mail linked the report itself. Will look at that later, thanks
 
@sehe IIRC, it did not but it is not that hard to find it.
@AlexM. It would be awesome if the Culture universe was our universe and they decided to save us from ourselves.
 
@EvanW well what do you know. Turns out I did check it some other time. Still, the point stands: It's an undocumented implementation detail. Deterministic is not quite in the same boat as documented let alone to be relied upon. Worse still, it's only deterministic if the vertex container is random-access (vecS). With listS it MIGHT be deterministic as long your allocations are deterministic. That's quite a stretch if you ask me. — sehe 2 mins ago
Developer optimism in C++. Bad trait++.
@wilx If you look closely my response was based on the article only, not making assumptions about the report (in fact, I specifically allowed for the article to be misrepresentation of a good report).
I'm pretty curious now what the report says. And things like e.g. the age of interviewed (what happens if you go around asking about evolution in Sunday school?)
Substituted the wrong word there :)
It was better that way, but let's not introduce more confuzzlement
 
9:50 AM
Logo design Gone Right
 
The video is finally up.
 
Ven
?
oh,the lua talk?
 
I... I kinda hate it, though.
I sound like a puntz.
And I can't stop saying 'uh'.
Sure the audio quality isn't great but my voice isn't helping. ;~;
Ergh.
 
10:02 AM
Thanks.
I'll watch it after work today.
 
@sehe Oh that's p good
 
Ven
@ThePhD i'm jelly of your hair
 
My hair is a trainwreck, generally.
 
Ven
if your hair is a trainwreck my hair is Birdemic 3 The Movie
 
@ThePhD Doesn't seem bad at all.
 
10:05 AM
@Ven I actually watched part of that movie. I never made it all the way through.
 
@ThePhD Will watch later, one comment that's on my mind after the like two minutes I've watched - use your presentation software's ability to show you a presenter's screen on your laptop, so that you avoid looking at the slides on the big screen (since doing that makes you show the back of your head to the audience, which isn't very good style).
 
Ven
@ThePhD so you understand my point
 
@Griwes Right, I'll have to remember that.
 
Ven
@Griwes That works unless you're really blind
 
@Ven Well, if you're really blind you'd carry a 35" screen around with you to put it in front of you. :P
 
Ven
10:08 AM
that sounds like it'd be a wrong thing to do. because @griwes proposed it I guess
 
The big room at CppCon was nice, it had an additional screen in front of the podium so that you could see the actual thing that's being shown. Pretty nice, even with pympress' presenter's screen.
 
Ven
oh that's amazing
 
Yeah, it was pretty cool. Sucks that the other rooms at Meydenbauer don't have that. :P
 
#LazyWeb Does anyone know of a tool to detect/identify subliminal (message) frame in a video? Google knows, but sur… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/805717684675612672
Shit. Doesn't do the screenshot of course
 
10:29 AM
@sehe Detect vastly different frame than the other two surrounding it?
 
That's not what framerate is
Unless you mean key frame, and that would be mux/encoding dependent
 
10:44 AM
yeah... I've no idea why you thought frame rate was what he meant
if you just detect one frame that that is 'significantly' different from the two either side, and those two are very similar, it's 'likely' to be an attempt at SM
performing a delta between frames is ~fairly~ simple
 
user1804599
@sehe probably one line of Mathematica lol
 
user1804599
perfect candidate for Programming Puzzles & Code Golf
 
The American town of 'Nothing' has a population of none. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing,_Arizona
 
@thecoshman Gosh. You're right. However, that's the whole question of course.
@thecoshman So, do you know a tool that can do it?
 
10:59 AM
you'll likely end up in AI land
solving problems like "do these two images contain similar things or not"
 
mandatory
 
Ven
@Griwes it's been done though :P
(of course it's not 100% perfect)
 
TYL in russia there's an app that takes in photos of people's faces
and tells you their social media accounts
 
There was even a CodeGolf question to identify goats in pictures.
 
but yes telling whether a photo is a specific animal or not has been done
actually not a specific animal you give it the pic and it tells you the animal
in a long running test it proved more accurate than a human
for ambiguous animals
but I read this ages ago
cba to search for src anymore
 
11:24 AM
@Ven A research team and five years is kinda optimistic if you'd have to start from scratch.
216
Q: Upgoat or Downgoat?

DowngoatGiven an image of a goat, your program should best try to identify whether the goat is upside down, or not. Examples These are examples of what the input may be. Not actual inputs Input: Output: Downgoat Spec Your program should be at most 30,000 bytes The input will contain the full goa...

^ It was about detecting if the goat is upside down or not.
Which is slightly easier than detecting whether or not there's a goat in the picture at all.
 
> Given an image of a goat
yeah
 
Ow.
 
ImageInstanceQ[x,"caprine animal",RecognitionThreshold->i/100]
lol
 
> caprine animal
 
11:43 AM
@sehe the human eye :P
@Griwes truth
 
@AlexM. What game is this?
 
dark souls
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's kinda neat.
 
user1804599
random_page_cost = 1.0 is amazing with an SSD
 
user1804599
11:58 AM
It stops PostgreSQL query planner from assuming disk seeks are expensive.
 
@ThePhD Price is a bit steep, but yeah looks pretty cool.
This too onerng.info
 
nwp
syntax highlighting is difficult
 
Ven
WTF?
 
looks like the source needs a relex
 
12:15 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes What can you do with that?
 
Ven
RIP Firebug.
 
@thecoshman I don't consider myself a tool. I know of the leniences in the English language that would allow you to take a different stance on that self-verdict
@Ven Waß?
 
Ven
Firebug (http://getfirebug.com) has been discontinued. Thanks for the revolution in browser developer tooling you’ve been <3
 
Ah. DragonFly, DeveloperTools, and even IE Developer Toolbar have removed the need then
 
Ven
long and far.
 
12:31 PM
i is what separates 'fair' from 'far' :p
another retarded saying by Telkitty™
 
Ven
 
tfw you do your homework in Coliru.
 
user1804599
Lol, new party will organize unofficial referendum for every single law proposal
 
Referendum overflow.
 
Ven
unofficial™
 
@rightfold kek
 
user1804599
1:05 PM
With internet™ of course
 
user1804599
So you can vote without moving your butt out of your bed
 
Unless it cannot handle the load. But that never happens in government-ish websites.
 
user1804599
It's the party's website. And they already have 100k unique visitors each day
 
user1804599
You vote what the MPs of the party say
 
What a terrible idea.
 
user1804599
1:12 PM
I like it
 
Ah yes, let people who are even more misinformed that the MPs are decide what happens. Glorious idea.
 
user1804599
Maybe I'll vote for them instead of freedom party
 
Do you want them to vote to ban vaccines? Because this is how you get them to vote to ban vaccines.
 
user1804599
But I'll probably see how it goes first
 
user1804599
@Griwes this isn't murrica
 
1:16 PM
I wrote this draft.sx/8e9e9a61041f1c31945c9f72a06793be. Gonna test drive it on my muggle friends soon.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes There's some formatting problems introduced by multiplication in the third paragraph.
 
@Griwes Oh. It looked fine in a previous iteration and I forgot to recheck after some reviewing :?
 
> The prime factors of 20 are 2 and 5 (40 = 225)
surely you didn't mean 40 = 225? :D
 
Yeah, fucking asterisks.
 
1:21 PM
murkdown
 
@Griwes 20 = 2 * 2 * 5 (40 was a previous iteration, but I found numbers that yield simpler calculations)
 
Yeah, it seemed not to make sense regardless of where I put the multiplication :D
 
Should be fixed when draft.sx's cache expires.
Spacing in formulas is inconsistent, too.
Also fuck, I need to s/55/33/
Dammit.
 
Ven
1:41 PM
@eevee You have signed up for Perl Facts. You can use oct() to convert binary oct("0b1010") and hex oct("0xA") in addition to octal oct(12).
/cc @rightfold
 
user1804599
@Ven Awful.
 
Ven
@rightfold look at his follow-up. it's even worse
 
user1804599
@Ven Awful.
 
user1804599
open is really broken.
 
user1804599
<> is even worse.
 
Ven
1:49 PM
<<>> ftw? security ftw at least.
 
user1804599
OCaml/PHP/SQL <> best <>.
 
Ven
:P
 
user1804599
Yummy, brie.
 
-3
Q: How does c99 compiler think?

Sam BayyurtI don't unterstand how int a=5; a=a--+--a; get valued 7(in c99). On DevC++ i got 8 for the same codes. Can you explain the process for c99?

dat title @Mysticial @Borgleader
 
2:05 PM
these questions are exactly why I keep an eye on the new questions page
it's an excellent form of entertainment
 
user1804599
2:36 PM
I wonder what Git would do if you could somehow create a commit that is its own parent.
2
 
user1804599
Difficult to find the ID.
 
Ven
:P
 
I don't think that's possible with how the hashes are computed
 
2:49 PM
what is type safety — milleniumbug 6 secs ago
 
@StoryTeller Not sure what you mean by "you dont get it for free", foo() and bar() end up being the same, but then again maybe my test case is incorrect. I'm not saying it wouldn't be a lot of work, but I think it's theoretically possible? — Borgleader 8 secs ago
 
Ven
clean 15.000 rep, nice.
 
gratz
 
@milleniumbug I think your comment has died.
 
Ven
3:04 PM
@Griwes it did indeed
 
Every day you find something new. puts the movie on the to-watch list, just for the soundtrack alone
 
Of course, "Number of times I've gotten to make a decision twice to know for sure how it would have turned out" is still at 0.
2
 
Ven
:(
 
user1804599
Git is amazing.
 
user1804599
3:21 PM
gitfs
 
@rightfold We're doing Lambda Calculus now.
 
Ven
lambda+lambda
 
user1804599
3:40 PM
 
user1804599
Good icons.
 
user1804599
@ThePhD Nice. :)
 
Those are some nice icons.
(λx . + x 2) 3
this is my first one I have to turn into normal form
 
@rightfold I feel that sort would have been better with an obvious colour gradient.
 
If I'm reading that correct
λx is just another way of saying
f(x)
And then everything on the right hand side
 
Ven
3:42 PM
it's a lambda
 
is a definition of that
 
user1804599
@Morwenn :)
 
so...
 
user1804599
@ThePhD 5
 
Ven
@ThePhD it's a way of saying [](x) { :p.
 
3:43 PM
f(x) = x + 2
Wait, why's the . there?
That's not like
multiplication right?
That's just part of the syntax, right?
λx . is the full definition syntax?
 
user1804599
it separates parameter from body
 
Oh, okay. So like parens for regular function calls
So just x+ 2 then
 
user1804599
rightfold.github.io/lambda-playground enter (\x. add x two) three click b-reduce
 
Ven
nice :D
 
wut
 
user1804599
3:45 PM
it'll do one reduction step for some definition of step
 
user1804599
click it repeatedly to reduce further (in this case it won't because it doesn't know the definition of add, two and three)
 
user1804599
But I can imagine you can reduce add three two manually, you learned that in elementary school.
 
00:00 - 16:0016:00 - 00:00

« first day (2242 days earlier)      last day (2698 days later) »