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12:00 AM
@Mikhail p = mc?
 
Ven
@Borgleader @jaggedSpire <3
 
@Ven <3
 
@Ven <3
 
<3 <3 @Ven @Borgleader
 
break this heart (cake) then eat it ... brutal ... but if you don't eat it, it's just too wasteful
 
12:13 AM
Its also a vagina
 
@Telkitty My heart is broken but nobody wants to eat it. :(
 
12:35 AM
Why does nvcc take forever to compile?
 
1:26 AM
Writing a preprocessor in OCaml is weird.
@rightfold Maybe that could be an important difference? Like, int[][] is an array of arrays, while int[ , ... ] is a multi-dimensional but flat array?
Albeit, I feel like having both syntaxes would be a confusion nightmare.
I really do need a way of specifying the difference between a variable-length array and a fixed-size array.
 
1:49 AM
Hello, Cruel World
 
Hiyo!
I'm trying to decide on type declaration syntax for what an array-of-arrays-of-arrays should be,
and what the syntax for a multi-dimensional but never-the-less flat array should be.
 
2:06 AM
Hello everyone
 
2:31 AM
@ThePhD I liked the approach in Eigen, eigen.tuxfamily.org/dox/group__TutorialMatrixClass.html
It let them do optimization for common things like 3x3 and 4x4 arrays.
As for jagged arrays, I've never seen a use for them...
 
This is not C++ code.
 
:-(
 
2:46 AM
It's a language I'm trying to define.
And write a lexer / parser for.
 
copy MATLAB
 
copy APL
 
Trying to write a simple processor with Ocamllex, Menhir and Ocamlc
Not having the greatest time ever.
Also having some fun trying to write the bootstrapper for this stuff too.
 
3:44 AM
I'm messing with a shell extension, and we're getting loaded by explorer and returning an error (E_INVALIDARG) pretty quickly (within a second). That's fine, and I think intended behavior. It then turns around and tries to unload us. During DLL_PROCESS_ATTACH in DllMain, we're creating a couple threads. I know we shouldn't. Now that I think about it, maybe now is the time to clean that up. The problem comes when we tell the threads to quit and wait for them during DLL_PROCESS_DETACH.
I'm currently just working on getting one thread to close out properly. With no code in the thread, everything works fine and the handle returned from CreateThread gets signaled. With something like a WaitForSingleObject or MsgWaitForMultipleObjects (both of which are run on an event handle passed to the thread and succeed with a return value of WAIT_OBJECT_0), the thread handle returned to me during CreateThread is never signaled.
I can tell the thread is either exiting or it's getting swapped out at the return statement because of some logging inside and outside of the thread. The logging isn't the issue because I've taken the log statements out and I still get WAIT_TIMEOUTs all day on the thread handle. I haven't gotten around to looking in Process Monitor yet to see the thread state. I can't seem to reproduce this with a test project, so I'm getting really close to writing a fresh shell extension to reproduce it.
I figure it has something to do with COM or doing too much in DllMain, but I'm pretty stumped beyond that. I think I had this reproduced at one point without the WaitForSingleObject call inside the thread, but it's been a couple hours so I don't remember. I'm looking for ideas about why this behavior would happen given that I'm having a hard time reproducing it outside of the shell extension.
 
I would convert everything you can to std::thread, C++11 stuff that has better RAII and clear lifetimes. You might have a bug in your code but its hard to tell.
For example, if you want another thread use std::thread...
 
there's a bug somewhere haha. i can try to change it to an std::thread and see if it exits.
 
the advantage of std::thread is that it will throw if it wasn't joined, perhaps due to wacky dll lifetimes
 
i can tell my dll is still loaded. it's trying to unload and continues to log until i kill explorer
maybe I should be using DuplicateHandle.
std::thread appears to only call std::terminate if the thread wasn't joined. it's also at the global level of the dll, so it's not governed by RAII until perhaps the dll is basically unloaded.
(i.e. it doesn't appear to throw)
 
4:07 AM
I'm not sure what your issue is. You can store a global std::thread* in a pointer and have it initialized on the attach function. Then you can join on the detach function...
although you should probably have the attach and detach excluded by a mutex, but thats another story.
 
yeah that's what i would do. so far i've just read up on std::thread (we have a shortage of real c++ code). I haven't remoted in yet.
I was wondering about whether DLL_PROCESS_DETACH was guaranteed to be called strictly after DLL_PROCESS_ATTACH returns.
 
 
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5:58 AM
@Mysticial > Here, in excruciating detail, are the rules for the use of typename. Unfortunately, due to something which is hopefully not-contagious apparently affecting the standards committee, they are pretty complicated. - typename keyword
 
lol, wrong room
 
It's kind of sad how often that pops up when I research C++
 
 
1 hour later…
7:11 AM
> Rust should integrate easily with C++ code
one of the goals on the Rust 2017 Roadmap
cc @R.MartinhoFernandes
 
7:30 AM
having conversations with hardware people is one of my favorite things "you mean you just... write code? and throw a few tests in???"
 
where is rust at these days @Luc. I've been wondering what the status of Rust and D is
D seemed to not have enough of a standard library when I looked into it a couple years ago
 
no idea
 
lol ok
 
thanks
 
user1804599
Lol D allows aliasing of references to mutable
 
user1804599
thisisfine.jpg
 
"after six weeks of beta, no significant problems appeared" sigh how i wish my company could say this
 
user1804599
Introduce competence
 
7:59 AM
well. it's twofold. one, we're pretty deep in a hole. two, competence, we're working on it
 
user1804599
Introduce pure total functional programming
 
8:27 AM
xkcd passwords ftw
 
8:50 AM
Modernizing using-declarations to make variadic bases useful cc @Xeo get in on this
still have to use 'mix-in' bases to expand and then bring into scope rather than have, well, 'variadic' declarations/definitions of any kind (functions etc.) but it would still be a huge improvement obviously
 
Ven
9:03 AM
:o
Will they ever stop.
 
is there a way to enable 2fa on stack overflow?
 
@LucDanton nice (although minor frankly)
 
i'm growing paranoid of my security xd
 
@GundolfGundelfinger I don’t have a lot of boilerplate left around compared to years past, and a lot of what’s left is precisely due to that
 
Ven
@GundolfGundelfinger how dare you ; I know of exactly 3 places in the world it could be possibly useful, so they should add the feature.
 
9:05 AM
@LucDanton I acknowledge it is useful but I can't think of other uses cases than the one presented, tbh.
inb4 "that's because you're bad"
 
@GundolfGundelfinger actually my stock response in this case is that I tend to roll my eyes at the 'argument by lack of imagination'
hire a dullard that can’t think of anything ever and suddenly we can dismiss everything ever
 
I didn't say dismiss it, I said it's minor :noel:
 
@GundolfGundelfinger I can’t think of use cases not to have the feature, your move
 
@LucDanton stop being a dullard
hire a dullard that can't think of any reason to dismiss a feature and suddenly we accept anything ever
your turn
 
> Lambdas in unevaluated context
> Author: Louis Dionne
@Rapptz lol^
@GundolfGundelfinger well, no
 
9:09 AM
@LucDanton Counterpoint
checkmate.
 
if I use a meta-argument to dismiss arguments of the form X, you can’t use arguments of the form X against that
it’s self-defeating on top of, well, being wrong
 
are you trying to use logic
do you know how little effective that has proven to be
 
@GundolfGundelfinger no, notice 'on top of'
I’m saying even if it weren’t a wrong approach you’re still a stupid idiot
 
@LucDanton tes préférences sexuelles ne concernent que toi
@LucDanton consistency!
 
> [the] proposed bind_front function
today’s bikeshed is fuchsia
 
9:17 AM
This is the proposals for C++20 yes?
 
I don’t know
since most of this is not boring, it’s a distinct possibility
 
user1804599
@Ven What is the difference between subtyping and subsumption?
 
> for_each_iter algorithm proposal
@sehe hey look, a new suffix!
 
-7
Q: Coprime number c/java program

rohit pandey> #include<bits/stdc++.h> using namespace std; > #define MAX 1000000007 void fastread( long long *a){ //take input by fastread(&n); char c=0; while(c<33){ c=getchar_unlocked();} > *a=0; while(c>33){ > *a=*a*10+c-'0'; c=getchar_unlocked(); } } bool coprime(long long u, long long v) { > if ((...

C/Java seriously
Also #include <bits/stdc++.h>
/cc @Mysticial @Borgleader
 
9:35 AM
hello C++ guys!
 
0
Q: c++ in visual studio

yente paternotteso im learning c++ but i have seen that visual studio has visual c++ i googled the diference but i hve not found anything help full. the only thing i found was that visual c++ is a version of c++ but with more libaries please coorect me if im wrong. so i have two questions whats the difference b...

> the only thing i found was that visual c++ is a version of c++ but with more libaries please coorect me if im wrong.
 
user1804599
I'm bored.
 
10:01 AM
@LucDanton sounds rusty
 
Hi guys
Long time no chat. Hope some of you still remember this crazy Belgian.
 
rub in en vb?
 
I have design conundrum
So if any of you are bored enough to help me out, I'd appreciate some input
Or am I like not regular enough anymore to get away with that?
 
you’re already receiving input right now, but it’s blocking
 
lol
Well, I wrote up a nice enough question on SO: stackoverflow.com/questions/40190819/…
Basically, I want to know a way to enable copy semantics on a signal-slot implementation. I've got the signal copy working, but I can't imagine how I can copy an objects connections with it.
I could solve it easily if I could store a heterogeneous list of member function pointers, but hah, that is so ridiculously impossible (if I gathered my information correctly) that this way out is impossible.
 
10:17 AM
yes was able to change name now
 
@LucDanton help. What does it add?
I can't stop watching, dawg 😭😭😭 https://t.co/6De69QfbTm
Wow. That's well made
 
@sehe I suppose one way to put it succinctly is to say that it is to for_each what iter_swap is to swap (hey that one is a prefix!)
note it’s still a proposal at this stage though
 
10:32 AM
IDGI. Why on earth would that be a standard algorithm!?
Just in case people happen to have containers (not even ranges) of iterators?
 
oh, my comparison is not right sorry
 
Why not make an iterator adaptor (like boost already has) and be done for all algorithms? (And then go, sit in a corner and repent from bad datastructure choices)
@LucDanton I'm curious now
 
@sehe same as for_each, save that the callback receives iterators
 
Ah.
I can /almost/ see where that might come in handy.
Not really though. And it would still apply to all algorithms.
 
(the callback/inversion of control puts us in a variance situation hence the confusion)
here comes sort_iter!
 
10:35 AM
Yup. I understand how your description matches both
 
not to be confused with iter_sort, for ranges of iterators
 
Stop it.
You're making me seasick :)
 
that particular feeling is C++-sickness
 
user1804599
XD
 
Ell
10:48 AM
@rightfold have you implemented pi types?
 
user1804599
Yes.
 
user1804599
check env (App e1 e2) = do
  e1' <- check env e1
  e2' <- check env e2
  case e1' of
    Pi x d c -> do
      when (not (e2' `equal` d)) Nothing
      Just $ subst x e2 c
    _ -> Nothing
check env (Pi x d c) = do
  d' <- check env d
  let env' = Map.insert x d env
  c' <- check env' c
  case d', c' of
    Type n, Type m -> Just $ Type (max n m)
    _, _ -> Nothing
 
Ell
That was quick
 
user1804599
I did that a month ago.
 
Ell
10:57 AM
I thought you said ypu wanted to do it yesterday
 
user1804599
11:09 AM
I do.
 
user1804599
In fact, I am going to do it today, and add dependent Σ-types as well.
 
user1804599
And recursion.
 
Ell
I thought you had dependent sigma types already :O
which project are you working on currently?
 
I am
having a lot of trouble figuring this parser out for a preprocessor.
I don't know how to process an arbitrary length list of text that doesn't match all the other rules as just one big ol' blob of string stuff.
 
Ell
@ThePhD if it matches none of the rules then you should reject it with an error message
 
11:23 AM
No, this is a preprocessor.
If it matches none of the rules its just text.
And it should be forwarded as such.
Maybe I should have rules that basically match things line by line.
And basically process lines.
 
Ell
Oh I see what you mean
 
Ah this OCamllex regex sucks.
There's no "start of line" regex, I don't think??
 
isn't there?
wasn't there a ^ char?
 
Yes, but this is ocaml regex.
 
oh, sorry
 
11:29 AM
I can't process lines because I don't have a "start of line" match
Fuck.
 
user1804599
why are you writing a preprocessor
 
user1804599
go full S-expression, and make Racket programs the preprocessor
 
... Huh.
God.
I fucking hate ocamllex and ocamlyacc now.
 
user1804599
use Menhir, not ocamlyacc
 
Okay, that doesn't help me write the ocamllex part of this program.
Like
How do I nest rules
Can I even have multiple ocamllex rles
Okay, so THAT'S how
 
11:43 AM
Cotard delusion is a rare mental illness in which the affected person holds the delusional belief that he or she is already dead, does not exist, is putrefying, or has lost his or her blood or internal organs. Statistical analysis of a hundred-patient cohort indicates that the denial of self-existence is a symptom present in 69% of the cases of Cotard's syndrome; yet, paradoxically, 55% of the patients present delusions of immortality. In 1880, the neurologist Jules Cotard described the condition as Le délire des négations ("The Delirium of Negation"), a psychiatric syndrome of varied severity...
 
I can do rule token parse = blah
and then in the {} match action I can delegate to anotehr rule
And I can have multiple rules by using the and keyword.
Where is this int hese shitty docs?
Nowhere, I have to go find some random code online.
 
12:04 PM
folks
why is there an explicit rule that unbounded recursive template instantiation is UB, but for unbounded recursive function calls there is no such explicit rule
and why is there not even a recommended minimum resource limit in the annex for this :/
 
Consistency? In my C++?
 
IMO the "c++faq" questions are pointless, with rise of cppreference. much more so the "SO documentation" project
perhaps there is a bit of a point for the c++ faq things, because they are mostly for beginners, while cppreference is for the advanced.
but .. what is the point of the SO documentation. i don't see it at all
 
user1804599
Nobody uses it. It's a failed project, as was expected long ago.
 
is the failure state only for c++ or also for the other languages
wait 10 years, and they perhaps will build a SO documentation tree by a KI based on only SO answers :p
 
Xeo
@LucDanton Looks nice, not just because it allows using T...;, but also using a, b, c;
 
user1804599
12:22 PM
@JohannesSchaub-litb In general.
 
#import
#import_string
Maybe I should just make those regular things like import "file.x" and string_import "file.x"
strimport huehuheuhue
simport ?
I like simport as a keyword.
 
user1804599
In Rust, these are macros implemented as a compiler plugin.
 
user1804599
And Rust macros aren't retarded; they return AST nodes.
 
I need to consider whether I want to have a preprocessor delimeter like #import
Or if I just want it to be naked.
If it's naked then I create a lot of junk from my lexer.
And my parser has to be smarter.
 
Xeo
@ThePhD import strings "file.x"? Or what does string_import do, plain-text copy-pasta?
 
12:30 PM
@Xeo string_import takes the target and imports it as a string.
 
Xeo
mh
 
Escapes shit etc. etc.
So it gets wrapped in "" and the contents of file.x get treated as a string.
I could do import string "file.x" and import "file.x" and import module.lib.stuff.
One kind of uniform syntax.
 
user1804599
omg omg omg so excited
 
user1804599
I'm gonna use a histomorphism
 
Why don't macros use just another # as continuation in the C / C++ preprocessor.
All you have to do is check for end-of-line, and then check to see if the current character is #.
It also saves on the weird \\{EOL} syntax
 
user1804599
12:38 PM
Don't do textual macros.
 
I guess because at the time for the preprocessor people were very hard on delimeting by the newline character...
 
user1804599
They're awful.
 
user1804599
Do AST macros.
 
@rightfold I am not smart enough to implement those at this time.
 
Hello guys I have anopther problem, wuite simple one to ask as question.
Why cant I write anything between if{} and else {}
 
12:39 PM
Because it breaks the if else chain.
 
user1804599
@MaxPayne Because the body of an if statement must be a single statement, not multiple, and {} is already a single statement.
 
in my code, I want an action to be done after checking of if {} but before else{}
 
Put it at the top of the else statement.
 
so is there no way of doing it?
 
user1804599
@MaxPayne So, if (…) { …; f(); } else { f(); … }?
 
12:40 PM
 
@ThePhD Ill show you the code
while (1) {
		display();
		if (checkWin(grid[X(cur)][Y(cur)])) {
			display();
			cout << "\n  Player " << player << " won!";
			cout << "\n  Press any key to continue ... ";
			cin.get();
			cin.ignore();
			break;
		}
		player = player == 'x' ? 'o' : 'x';
		else {
			cur = g;
			input(g);
		}
	}
 
@MaxPayne Rightfold already showed you the solution, please don't show me any code.
RIP.
 
@ThePhD sorry.
Thanks, I wanted a way around this, but cant.
 
nwp
@MaxPayne since you have a break in the if you don't need the else
 
@nwp else was if if condition gets false.
 
user1804599
12:44 PM
lol imperative programming
 
nwp
@MaxPayne everything after the if only gets executed if the if-condition is false
so there is no point in adding the else
 
foolish me. Thanks a lot.
@nwp Thanks!
@nwp a looot! You just finished my project!
 
since GCC also has C++ code in it for a couple of years now, does "core" GCC code look nice aswell?
 
user1804599
Lol, adding C++ makes something look nice.
 
nwp
@JohannesSchaub-litb do you really associate "looks nice" with C++?
 
12:49 PM
sorry. i meant "nicer"
than in the old days
 
nwp
I doubt C programmers write nice C++
pretty sure it will be C with namespaces or something like that
 
nwp
1:15 PM
40
Q: How to debug Greasemonkey script with the Firebug extension?

WolveFredI didn't find a way to debug Greasemonkey scripts with the Firebug extension. Does anyone know how to do this ? Thanks.

there are like 20 answers across like 8 questions and none of them work
every version seems to break existing solutions and the outdated solutions just prevent you from finding the current ones
 
@ThePhD very clean
 
1:40 PM
I forgot how to pass a lambda / function to a function that takes a function in Ocaml
 
user1804599
f (fun x -> x * 2)
 
Ven
flags!1
 
lol @ flag
in JavaScript - Stop asking if websites are down., 1 min ago, by Learn How To Be Transparent
never use angular js
very hard
you cant understand. only god can.
only jquery allowed or no library at all if you dont want to learn some hard to understand api
 
user1804599
typeOf (Var name) = do
  env <- Reader.ask
  case Map.lookup name env of
    Just term -> pure term
    Nothing -> throwError $ VariableIsNotInScope name
typeOf (Type universe) = pure $ Type (universe + 1)
 
user1804599
That was the simple part.
 
user1804599
1:42 PM
Now the difficult part.
 
user1804599
I want to support n-ary Π-types where arguments depend on previous arguments. I think I can use a histomorphism to do this.
 
Okay...
I have a function that's called once per line of a file
So to accumulate all the text into a single string
 
user1804599
foldl (^) ""
 
I should make a local variable and then use an anonymous closure to add to that local string value...
 
user1804599
Use fold, you badlet.
 
user1804599
1:46 PM
I don't know what OCaml calls it.
 
user1804599
Maybe reduce.
 
I don't think fold works here.
It just calls it fold
Like
let lines_in_file f filename =
	let chan = open_in filename in
	try while true do f(input_line chan) done
	with End_of_file -> close_in chan;;

let read_text filename =
	(* well shit *)
	lines_in_file (fun line -> line "" )
 
what do you think about a stackoverflow-builtin emscripten?
 
I don't think I can foldl because the while loop has no accumulation + return
 
so, [c++] tagged questions can have answers with c++ code and when you click "run", it runs the code by fetching the javascript code from the server
 
1:49 PM
So I need to, like. Figure out a variable or something.
 
user1804599
oh lol you're doing side-effects
 
user1804599
well yeah then you're gonna have to use a mutable variable
 
I don't know how else to do IO.
 
user1804599
let result = ref "" in
process_file (fun line -> result := !result ^ line);
!result
 
Ven
:|
 
user1804599
1:50 PM
Additionally, you can make lines_in_file itself fold.
 
user1804599
Assuming a decent function, one that returns an ADT instead of throwing an exception, because exceptions are absolutely retarded and super difficult to handle syntactically:
 
user1804599
let lines_in_file z f filename =
  let rec go acc chan =
    match input_line chan with
    | Line line -> go (f acc line) chan
    | End_of_file -> close_in chan; acc
  in go z (open_in filename)
let read_text filename =
  lines_in_file "" (fun acc line -> acc ^ line)
 
.... Uh.
What
What is... even...
input_line gives an End_of_file, I did not know that.
Okay. Well, that... sort of makes sense, I guess.
 
user1804599
No, read the message above.
 
Ven
d o g s h i t
exceptions
 
user1804599
1:56 PM
Exceptions suck, so I pretend input_line is actually usable and thus doesn't throw an exception.
 
Oh.
 
user1804599
You can wrap input_line to return something useful:
 
user1804599
type result = Line of string | Eof
let git_gud chan =
  try Line (input_line chan) with
  | End_of_file -> Eof
 
user1804599
You can't put f acc in such a try/with instead of Line, unlike some people advocate, because then you'd also catch exceptions thrown by f.
 
user1804599
Because try/with is so hungry, the body must be as narrow as possible, and this is difficult to write without all sorts of auxiliary ADTs, so you may just as well not go with exceptions in the first place, and make your APIs self-documenting and type-checked at the same time.
 
2:02 PM
You've
really lost me.
 
Ven
...
 
Goddamnit.
let line_number = ref 1
Is apparently not valid in ocamllex
 
Ven
¿
 
why do you hate exceptions so much?
they're super useful
 
"Reference to unbound regex name 'ref'" ...
Sadface is sad.
Is ref not a keyword?
Is it part of like Core.std or something?
 
Ven
2:09 PM
no it's not a keyword
it's just a function
 
Oh boy...
 
Ven
to create a 'a cell
 
Okay, I understand that.
But why... why isn't ocamllex letting my use it?
Maybe I need to put it in special brackets.
 
Ven
maybe.
 
Oh. It has to go in the 'header' part of the ocamllex file
I can't just declare it willy-nilly.
FUCK.
menhir isn't included in Win32 builds of Ocaml's distro.
And OPAM excepts cygwin, which I don't have...
Great.
 
2:14 PM
If The Rules don't fit, you must quit.
15
Witty enough?
 
user1804599
@Puppy I just explained that
 
@rightfold I read it and it doesn't really explain anything.
 
user1804599
Read harder
 
"First install cygwin" yeah nope fuck you.
 
Ven
@rightfold :arguing:
@Puppy do you use a totp?
I'm looking for one
 
2:18 PM
a what
 
Ven
authenticator. "Time-Based One-Time Password"
 
no
 
I think OTP is actually for "One-time pad"
In cryptography, the one-time pad (OTP) is an encryption technique that cannot be cracked if used correctly. In this technique, a plaintext is paired with a random secret key (also referred to as a one-time pad). Then, each bit or character of the plaintext is encrypted by combining it with the corresponding bit or character from the pad using modular addition. If the key is truly random, is at least as long as the plaintext, is never reused in whole or in part, and is kept completely secret, then the resulting ciphertext will be impossible to decrypt or break. It has also been proven that any...
 
Ven
/shrug
 
@Ven @R.MartinhoFernandes does
 
2:29 PM
@Ven I settled for Google Authenticator. Authy is more convenient in theory, but it requires you to store all the secrets on their server. I will not.
 
Guys, could you flag this wrong answer with me? No one seems to care and it's purely wrong! I flagged it a few days ago and nothing has changed!
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/35479634/calling-conj-function-on-every-element-of-a-c-complex-vector/35479919#35479919
 
user1804599
Flagging is not for that.
 
user1804599
You should downvote it.
 
I wrongly upvoted the answer, and now I can't change it!
I mean it's pure wrong! How could the moderators keep something like that?
 
Because gaming. If you have the privileges, just edit and then undo vote
 
user1804599
2:35 PM
Edit the answer to make it correct.
 
user1804599
great
 
I can't remove my upvote. I can edit, though. I added a note above the answer that it's wrong, and added a new answer that's correct.
 
@TheQuantumPhysicist Don't sweat it. I agree the answer is wrong. I just downvoted it.
 
2:37 PM
@TheQuantumPhysicist You didn't leave a note above the answer. Because you can't.
 
Actually I did, but it was removed (apparently). I have 3000+ rep points.
I have that privilage (AFAIK)
 
Good Morning
 
@TheQuantumPhysicist I had this edit prepared but decided against it, because it would make his answer correct and he doesn't seem interested in fixing it.
 
Now I can see that my edit was removed
http://stackoverflow.com/posts/35479919/revisions
The guy who answered the question removed my edit
 
user1804599
Correct the damn answer.
 
user1804599
2:45 PM
It's wrong. Wrong answers should be corrected, so that future visitors are not reading wrong information.
 
@rightfold Take it easy. I did edit the answer, but the guy removed my edit
 
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