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Ell
12:00 AM
You recorded how you fixed that though, right?
 
I'm thinking of Icarus right now for some reason
 
sbi
@Ell I got a 10.1.3 version on the internal card.
Oh, 10.2.0 got me a newer CWM, though. Maybe...
 
Ell
Ah I see
 
sbi
Aw, I'm really sick of it now, though.
I have been doing this for hours, and need to do lots of other things before the night is over.
 
Ell
Now that its working you can prioritise other things
 
sbi
12:04 AM
Let's see whether 10.1.3 works now again...
 
Ell
It's sleepy time for me
 
Ell
Good luck with the phone and sheets etc. And hope the birthday goes well @sbi
 
If the weather clears up later I might mow the pool. http://terriblerealestateagentphotos.com/ http://t.co/1BAqmiDDC7
 
Ell
@borg night :)
 
12:05 AM
no words
 
sbi
@Ell Thanks! Gute Nacht!
Ha! Back to 10.1.3! :D
 
@sbi Now go bake that cake ;)
 
sbi
@Borgleader Nah, one more try... :)
I do have a new CWM now, after all!
And I do know how to get back in 5mins.
What do you mean, "Murphy"?
Look, Ma! 10.2 is working now! :9
 
Wizardry :O
 
guys, I'm building a simple HelloWorld type application with SDL. SDL provides both static libraries (.lib) and dynamic libraries (.dll)
if I link my src with these .lib files, do I still need to have the .dll at runtime?
 
12:20 AM
yes
 
you could check it yourself
 
Borgleader, I was having the .dll in the system32 directory. I removed it and it still works. what else is making it work?
 
no clue, but im using sdl2 myself right now, and it complains if i remove the dll, so unless you managed to statically link it somehow, youll need it
 
I'm using Code::Blocks. the only settings I've updated are to use the /include folder plus the two .lib files (SDL2main and SDL2)
and I'm a novice so I'm not that adept in doing it myself :-)
 
sbi
In order to comfortably use a DLL (that is, you do not have to explicitly load it and get the addresses of all its functions), you need to statically link to a small lib file that was created with the DLL. It has stubs for everything and does the loading and dynamic linking in the background.
 
12:25 AM
@asgs a dll elsewhere or the fact that everything was statically resolved (inlined, unused, whatnot)
 
sbi
A real static library is called .lib as well, but it's much bigger than the stub lib.
 
Can Code::Blocks use .lib?
 
@sehe I
 
Thought that was a VS thing.
 
insightful
 
12:26 AM
@sehe He
 
sbi
@Nooble It's a Windows thing.
 
@sehe I'm more inclined towards things statically resolved
yes, this is under Windows
is there a compiler/linker flag I can enable to see where/how it's able to load stuff?
just looking to see some verbose logging
 
@sbi Really? IIRC C::B uses MinGW which gives .a files.
 
The "link to stub" part also happens with .as
afair there was a converter, but it's worthless with C++ code
due to differing ABIs
 
sbi
@Nooble That's because MinGW basically is a Unix thing. Other Windows compilers, when they still existed (Borland, CodeWarrior), used .lib files, too.
Look, Ma, we're at 10.2.1 now! smug look
 
12:32 AM
I'd bet the pre-packaged .libs are incompatible with C::B.
Why don't you compile SDL from source and link that.
@asgs
 
@Noo
@Nooble since I'm just getting started, thought using binary would be an easier option for now
 
@asgs Right, but those binaries are (I think) incompatible with C::B.
 
but it works without any problems.
 
@asgs Really? Hmph.
 
yes. the question I have is how it works when the dll is removed from my filesystem.
maybe .lib are enough? or is there something else going on is what needs to be found out.
 
12:37 AM
@asgs Because you statically linked it.
It's built with your program.
 
I see.
the executable is around 900 kB. the src is hardly 100 lines or so
so if I could statically link my src with these .lib files, these DLLs are not required at runtime anymore?
 
@asgs They shouldn't be, but be sure to check documentation.
 
sbi
@asgs Either this is a static library or there's a copy of the DLL somewhere in your path.
 
you need to recognise what's the stub of dynamic library and what's the static library
 
@sbi, I've searched the filesystem thoroughly. I don't see the DLL anywhere
 
sbi
12:40 AM
"Either..., or..."
 
Unzip the archive, point your project at its "include" directory for headers, and link against SDL2.lib (and optionally, SDLmain.lib if you want SDL to provide a WinMain() that calls your standard Unix-like main() function). Distribute the SDL2.dll with your app's .exe file, and you're good to go!
this is taken from libsdl.org website
 
sbi
Um, this is awkward. I just installed the google apps, but none of the show up. :-{
 
reboot
(wild guess)
Or relaunch the desktop shell thing
 
sbi
@sehe You install them from the ROM. You can't help but boot to get back into the GUI.
 
@sehe me?
 
12:42 AM
No
 
ok, was wondering if reboot will bring back the error
 
@sbi Mmm. You're trying to say "OF COURSE I REBOOTED THANK YOU" ? :S
I feel sheepish now
 
HELLO
 
sbi
@sehe Actually, what I said was: THERE IS NO OTHER WAY BUT REBOOTING TO FIND OUT WHETHER IT WORKED! :)
 
Ah yes- 0GB Solid State Drive. To store all of my straight porn. http://t.co/qlPzOxvkXv
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@Nican should have starbaited for supremacy
@sbi Yup. It's what I tell my mom. It's how things go
 
12:45 AM
@sehe I did not think a joke referring to gay porn would have ended up here.
 
@Nican That's hardly suprising, our starboard is full of dicks jokes most of the time
 
now I put the dll back and re-removed it. got the error!
so something with the caching... I don't know
 
@asgs Cool.
 
thanks guys!
 
sbi
@Borgleader You probably mean it's full of dicks' jokes.
 
12:49 AM
@sbi tomato tomato
 
Replaced a deque with boost::circular_buffer_space_optimized and throughput dropped from 36Gbit/s to 8Gbit/s.
 
sbi
"Do you want to cancel this download? Cancel/OK" Thanks, Firefox, that's really helpful.
 
@StackedCrooked throughput of?
 
damn, watcha working on?
 
sbi
12:50 AM
@Borgleader Gbit.
 
Bottleneck turned out to be buffer.erase(buffer.begin()). Replacing it with buffer.pop_front() restored the performance.
4
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked Wow, that is dramatic!
 
@sbi just pick one, yolo
 
Long time ago I was using a std::set. Hence the erase(begin) syntax.
 
@Nican Not at all. After all, only straight-up penises are star worthy, right
 
12:52 AM
@StackedCrooked dat fix
 
@ʞɔᴉN bbiab
 
@StackedCrooked o.O surprising
 
std::deque is reasonably good. but it doesn't keep it's memory. after a while it gets in a pattern of allocation and deallocating 4KB chunks.
 
@StackedCrooked wow. There's probably a completely plausible/reasonable explanation for that horrific API surprise
 
@Nooble kk
 
12:54 AM
@ʞɔᴉN BBIAB YOU SAID
 
@Borgleader it's a protocol stack I've been working on for the last couple of years
 
well I'm back now
so be grateful
 
@StackedCrooked cool
 
it's total crap
 
12:56 AM
well, not really :)
 
@sehe Oh boy- I will stop holding back my gay flamboyancy then.
 
sbi
@sehe Turns out it's not the most convenient to download version you need to go for, it's the compatible one. How the hell should I have known that?!
sheepish look
 
@ʞɔᴉN Not in mumble
 
@sbi by experience. achievement unlocked #life-is-a-game
 
Kill la Kill is literally TTGL
 
sbi
12:58 AM
@sehe Apparently I'm too young and unexperienced to have known that. :-)
 
Kill la TTGL
 
I'm on the 23rd ep
 
Ah. It's getting violent then :P
That show keeps getting better by the episode.
 
exactly like TTGL
too epic to stop now
not gonna sleep, gonna finish it
 
@unordered_meow and that was not a micro benchmark. that code is just a fraction of the whole workflow.
 
1:05 AM
impressive
 
@Nooble you don't really hate me
 
1:25 AM
but I do!
j/k
or not?
 
i know you love me
 
19
A: What are "sums-and-products" data structures?

Eldritch ConundrumVery detailed answers have already been given, but somehow they don't mention this simple fact. Sum types are called so because the number of possible values of a sum type is the sum of the number of values of the two underlying types. Similarly for product types, the number of possible values i...

^ Now I will never forget the difference between sum types and product types.
 
@StackedCrooked yep that makes a lot of sense
 
i thought it was clear
it's good that such answer exists
ok I finished kill la kill
row row fight the powah
 
1:48 AM
now start watching GATE :)
 
time for bed, hopefully ill manage to sleep more than 2-3 hours
 
I always sit down during the daily standup.
 
user406009
I just wish C++ had built in support for Sum Types (IE typed unions)
 
user406009
They are such a common need.
 
user406009
I guess there's this construction (github.com/exclipy/inline_variant_visitor).
 
user406009
1:58 AM
But it always seems sorta hacky.
 
@ʞɔᴉN <3
 
sbi
Three more hours until the kids wake up. I guess I'd better start to bake that cake... :-/
Good night everybody here!
 
@sbi night!
make coffee too ;)
 
sbi
I'm not much of a coffee drinker.
 
Good morning most of you
 
2:08 AM
@sbi Good luck with the cake!
 
@MaiLongdong Good morning.
It is night for me, yes.
 
Who is that guy who got mod suspended
Did I miss drama
 
user406009
@MaiLongdong You clearly need to start being nocturnal.
 
user406009
Then you can fully appreciate the chat.
 
@MaiLongdong I am getting so much attention nowadays, I feel bad for stealing all your share ..
 
2:15 AM
I know it wasn't you
 
@MaiLongdong Sino
 
good morning mai friend
 
Aka Sino
Aka Kened
 
Never heard of it
 
@MaiLongdong Well he was being offensive.
And used 2 sockpuppets.
 
2:18 AM
Hmmm should I go through the transcript <3
 
some of it got binned so meh
 
@MaiLongdong Check the bin.
 
thanks guis
 
I'm a cli though.
#EndTheStandards
 
Well there's nothing in the bin so I'm guessing it got deleted altogether
 
2:21 AM
@MaiLongdong Hmm, Mr. Clements did get involved.
 
The only thing I see is how men shouldn't be in the kitchen or something
Teenage 9fag spotted
 
Durarara X2's opening song is cool.
 
2:53 AM
^ Screenshot from latest Durarara episode @Xeo @Mysticial :P
 
lol
I need to catch up on that show.
 
This season turns out to be very pleasant.
For lack of a better word..
It's kind of weird series if I think about it. I don't even know what genre I'd call it.
Comedy-horror perhaps. Except that it's not a comedy and it's not horror.
 
user406009
Absurd?
 
Occasionally it gets rather absurd.
But there's also interesting character development.
And sometimes it gets really badass.
I didn't know Shinra considers Izaya a friend.
 
3:13 AM
slice of life/supernatural?
 
Ok. Not bad.
 
It's the classification Bleach had when it was still Samurai Ghostbusters
 
user406009
I wouldn't call Bleach slice of life.
 
@Lalaland first one or two seasons
 
It's not like Bleach at all.
 
3:16 AM
Before the soul society invasion arc
When they were running around Karakura beating up thugs and getting pranked by Urahara.
 
I stopped watching Bleach after a few episodes because
Jul 23 '13 at 5:34, by StackedCrooked
Monsters announcing their attacks before performing them always seemed silly to me.
 
yeeaaah
Kubo hasn't stopped doing that. :\
 
 
1 hour later…
user406009
4:20 AM
@StackedCrooked I guess the counterargument is that it makes it more entertaining. Same way that Hollywood doesn't use real gun sounds.
 
Ushio to Tora is turning out be an interesting series.
 
5:16 AM
off 2 a solo hike - my favourite activity nowadays
I love the looming hint of a subtle danger ...
 
5:34 AM
@ʞɔᴉN I decided against posting it. After a certain point of editing it really stopped being the original code.
 
6:07 AM
Still, since you were looking forward to it, original question and fixed. I stopped commenting things when I realized I wasn't posting it
 
Xeo
6:31 AM
@StackedCrooked Hm, I can't figure out the one after Mahouka
It looks clear enough that it should be something
 
6:45 AM
I can't sleep.
 
@Nooble have you tried laying in bed?
 
@jaggedSpire Yes.
 
@Nooble Well, I'm going to see if I fare any better then.
 
7:02 AM
@jaggedSpire Good night #2
 
@Nooble haha same
 
7:52 AM
whatup all
 
Ell
Mornin
 
8:12 AM
Alcohol is bad
Juice is good
Thunderbird UI now breaks after unhibernating
And GPU driver crashes
It's all great
Apparently it just crashed again and now Alt+Tab doesn't work
 
cpx
I like backups until I learned about whole OS backups (including programs). From now on, no fresh window installs ever!
 
Backing up software is mostly waste of storage
Better to prepare automated provisioning
 
cpx
Incremental backups!
 
Only backup what can't be recreated
 
If you have Windows 10, backing up is totally redundant. As there will be at minimum 3 backups done for you: Microsoft, MarkMonitor, and the NSA.
 
8:23 AM
@Mysticial Wow! They're so considerate
 
8:55 AM
That's why I am into the brick & mortal ... it's hard to duplicate ...
Once the roof is covered, you can't see what I do under the ground
 
9:09 AM
morning
is there any way to connect to this chat via IRC?
 
++damn
I wonder why they didn't think of IRC in the first place
 
if (only)
 
pictures, oneboxing, etc?
 
@Prismatic I don't see that as fundamental
 
9:16 AM
@MarcoA. Because they're not very good
 
that stuff makes the chat more similar to msn messenger, TBH
 
@Prismatic Little to do with protocol (and things that need that can use backwards-compatible extensions)
XMPP would probably be better base but oh well
Interop too hard
 
9:34 AM
@Borgleader As usual, internally, we use a proprietary format on top of encoding/compressing HDR data as specified by BC6h, but we do support import from both OpenEXR and "RADIANCE" .hdr, but only export to OpenEXR and our other proprietary formats (as .hdr is shit). There are a few types that should be import only, to stop the flow of shit. Examples include .dds and .hdr
 
user1804599
@MarcoA. because they don't care about the chat.
 
:' (
 
Ell
Xmpp isn't too bad
It's mostly done for us
 
We're basically the only respectable chat on SO. :P
 
Aug 24 at 18:28, by Nooble
@MarcoA. HOW TO SUCK COCK
 
Ell
9:39 AM
we would need to implement auth, gravatars and thread arrows
 
@MarcoA. Precisely.
 
Ell
XMPP has group chat, message editing, transcript etc. Through existing extensions
 
What do you need chat for? :D
 
Ell
But I don't know Erlang so vOv
@ElimGarak moving away from SO would be good imho
Decrease coupling n whatnot :P
 
None of the features on snackchat are essential
 
9:40 AM
Would be, but getting everyone on-board would be 5 times as challenging than developing a decent platform. :P
 
Ell
I don't think so personally
 
Been there tried that
 
Ell
Once the decent platform is there then people could move
 
oh wtf -> Rome's transportation agency has copied London's metro website but forgot to change the text so you can still read "Welcome to Rome's Metro website - browse London Metro map"
 
lol yeah that'll happen
 
Ell
9:41 AM
Meh I'd move
I think some Others would
 
Regarding the Lounge, I have embraced a more Cat Plus Plus approach. Fuck it all. :D
5
 
have a star for that
 
Ell
play I think having a private room would be nice
We could talk about actually important things
 
It would be better. But people cling to the familiar even if it is shit. Better is a low factor for most. Doesn't just apply to us, artists, for example, embrace workflows that are shit merely because they're accustomed to them.
 
If you care more about fancy entirely optional chat features than talking to people then it's already lost cause
 
Ell
9:44 AM
When I wrote a prototype it looked exactly like this room
For me its about the being separate from SO and private chat rooms
 
One thing that annoys me about this chat is the insistent indexing by Google.
 
Ell
I even got it down to making the messages green until they were sent :P
I would really rather the transcript be private
 
We have an IRC room
We can have an XMPP server with MUC in 5 minutes
Platform is really not a problem
 
@ElimGarak What you say will be used against you in the court of The Internet
 
Ell
9:46 AM
I go into the IRC sometimes, I only ever see LRiO :L
 
Wrong channel
 
Ell
Then I accidentally gave him OP and he revoked it from me :(
 
Where I can find best tutorials to connnect c++ with database and also want to learn how I can input and fetch data from database?
 
Presence of LRiO should be indicative
 
user1804599
I'm gonna learn about React.
 
Ell
9:47 AM
@cat what is the channel?
 
user1804599
What shall I make with React.
 
#loungecpp
 
@LetDoit You wish to write a programming with the C pointer?
 
Ell
On freenode?
 
Ell
9:47 AM
it should be ##loungecpp
 
@elyse make a to do list
BUT
 
user1804599
@Ell No. It's official.
 
Ell
IIRC #stuff is reserved
 
@ElimGarak I want to connect c++ with database like PHP/MYSQLI etc...
 
Give it the ability to track how long things take, by 'starting' and 'stopping' tasks
 
Ell
9:48 AM
Oh I see
 
(he thinks I'm serious)
 
user1804599
@Prismatic ok!
 
@ElimGarak any Idea?
 
Also, I'd like for us to move to a more appropriate place, I don't care about pictures. All we need is a starboard, the chat and fuck oneboxing. Links and all are enough.
 
I think that a To Do list is in one of their official tutorials when I was looking at learning it... seems like a good place to start regardless of what you want to make imo
 
9:49 AM
But it's not going to happen. The Lounge is strong with the lounge.
 
@Ell We own the name, we can make use the primary namespace
Also nobody fucking ever cares
Literally never used ## channels
 
How I can connect c++ with database. same as PHP/MYSQL or C#/MS-ACCESS ? Any Idea Please?
 
I am just afraid that one day SO will cut our wings and we'll get disarrayed. This place didn't receive a functionality / care package update in 5 years.
 
Also, Apple's file servers are absolute shit.
 
9:53 AM
@Mr.kbok Thanks Man..!! Let me explore it..!!
 
(Can Telkitty see what I write if she's plonked?)
 
yes
 
@ElimGarak Fact: you can't talk to people without fancy web technology
 
9:54 AM
if google can, then no point in blocking it from her view
@ElimGarak One important thing about the lounge is that new people keep coming. If we're cut off stackoverflow we'll slowly die.
 
@ElimGarak can a chicken see me when I block my eyes with a piece of large leaf?
 
@chmod711telkitty no, they're vision is based on movement
 
We can find ways of making the Lounge its own thing, though. Not that I'm proposing anything. Complacency is my thing here.
 
I think I'll live without people coming in here and asking dumb questions
 
they're laughing stock. if we don't have them we're out of stock
 
9:56 AM
Yeah, we get a "regular" every year or so. Since I left, it's basically just Nooble. And it's been years.
 
some people here are surely retarded
 
I need how is pointar formed issues
they greatly improve your C++ skills
 
Yes, you can write a programming with the C pointer. That thing got seared into my brain.
 
*C/C++
 
seriously we need a way to block dumb ppl from coming back
maybe using trickery
 
9:59 AM
SO should add a placeholder tag for noobs: which adds and when they ask a question they have no idea which language the piece of code they blindly pasted belongs to
 
But I don't think we'd die. Everyone I give a fuck about is still here, pretty much. Cat, Puppy, sehe, Jerry, kbok, Borgleader, StackedCrooked, Xeo, Tony, rightfold, Cicada, Etienne, Ell, Andy, Mysticial, Scott... Oh, man, this counting is a bad idea. There's a lot more. Everyone, essentially. Minus Telkitty, snipe and sino.
 
and since we're there... also adds a +1 close vote. Just to speed things up.
 

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