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12:00 AM
@рытфолд is there o.O
 
@Puppy But that's often a matter of timing. Just for example, when the C standard was new, there were still a few implementations doing 16-bit math in the library, and most did 32-bit math in the library. Now, with no change in the standard at all, essentially all compilers generate code directly for all of the above.
 
yes, it's totally a matter of timing.
and the standard doesn't really say anything about whether a given feature is handled as a library or a language feature.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes wow I have an interesting Nonius run here
 
welp gotta go to work tomorrow so despite my renewed interest in fixing up Wide I gotta go to bed
 
@sehe mine-smart-variadic?
 
12:04 AM
goodnight everybody
 
@Puppy sweet nops
 
Sure enough, another run has the same pattern http://i.imgur.com/Wm16j6i.png
(if you diregard the warmup effect/perhaps I did something with my browser there)
 
hope it's a wide bed
now that i'm back on desktop chat I can see the starboard
I see sehe's post-plonk inconherent "I'm the victim oh plonking" winge (which has literally nothing at all to do with any facts or any of the conversation occurring at the time) has made it to five stars. Deja vu, as this is precisely what happened last time he took plonking personally and why I decided not to put up with this hypocritical shite any more. Why did I decide to try to mend fences by unplonking him and giving him a second chance? Who the fuck knows.
"the question on the main site" what in the name of frak are you going on about
shit this, you all enjoy your bloody selves.
cya
 
0
Q: std::thread error for target taking pointer args

AlmostSurelyI have a setup similar to the following, A.hpp #include <thread> class A { static void foo(char*, char*); void bar() { char* char_start = (char*) malloc(100 * sizeof(char)); char* char_end = char_start + (100 * sizeof(char)) - 1; std::thread t(foo, char_star...

One answer is plain wrong, the other isn't even answering anything
 
12:27 AM
Fresh checkout of llvm, I hope this won't be painful
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit sehe had already answered that nubs question earlier (about the iostream thing), I think that's what the main site question thing is
 
mmm? I answered it after the conversation became so uselessly drawn out here. Funny thing is, nubcake completely ignored the answer, because... reasons?
 
Ell
I assume you have lightness plonked?
 
@Ell everyone has
 
Ell
He just said something about you saying something about the mainsite question
So I was telling him which question I think you were referring too
 
12:35 AM
@Ell Nope
Life is better this way
 
it certainly is
 
 
1 hour later…
1:39 AM
Life is wonderful
 
@Jefffrey Being drunk again?
 
Nah, can't drink until the end of february
 
o.O
 
Ell
I was drinking absolut citron earlier
It didn't taste much better than unflavoured
 
1:53 AM
Ok. So I moved my personal record for "overkill" on an SO answer again:
And with that, I go to bed. Night all
 
Ell
@sehe night :)
I think there are avid cyclists in this room
I need advice
 
(There are. @rightfold at least)
 
@Ell What about?
 
Ell
Sit bone pain
 
Hmm. Can't say I've experienced that much.
When I went to Denmark, I did long stretches of cycling standing.
 
Ell
1:59 AM
I'm not sure if its an issue with my saddle, the way I cycle or if I'm just supposed to get used to it
I did 25k the other day
Which is by no means a long distance
Yet I barely managed 3k before turning round the next day because of extreme pain
 
That does sound like something's wrong.
 
Ell
Yeah
I tend to cycle most of the route sitting down
But I don't think it should be this much of a problem
I think I'll just start with shorter daily cycles
And increase distance until there is no pain
 
@Ell What kind of saddle are you using? How is it set (should normally be almost level or just slightly nose-down)?
 
2:16 AM
@JerryCoffin Old fashioned western horse saddle.
The best, I say.
 
@Puppy So I just did a fresh checkout of LLVM and I ran into LLVM ERROR: Incompatible object format! which is apparently caused by the jit only supporting elf on windows. Apparently you ran into this too a while back. How do I tell it to use an elf file? (I'm trying to run one of the examples from the kaleidoscope website)
 
@Nooble As in Brooks (or something similar)? They're all right after they're broken in, but definitely do require some time to break them in (so yes, your plan of slowly building up to reasonable distances is pretty much the only way with them).
 
Ell
@JerryCoffin not sure how to describe the saddle. Its very thin though?
And it is level
Maybe pointing it down a touch could help
I don't know of the names of different saddle types
I'll have a google
Its not very thick or padded at all, though I do wear padding
 
2:31 AM
@Ell Pain in the tail bone is usually from it being tilted down too much (tilted back too far leads to pain/numness in the groin).
 
Tilting it down sounds like a recipe for disaster.
I'd probably slip.
 
Ell
@JerryCoffin I think the saddle tilt isn't causing the problem then
I think I will just start small
If it persists I'll look into it further
I'll take a photo of the saddle also
Tomorrow
Thanks for the advise @JerryCoffin!
I'm sleeping now thoygh
Night all!
 
Night.
 
@Ell G'night
 
I hope AMD releases a quieter GPU for the R9-300 series. Their flagship card was infamous for being so loud on full load, you'd start to wonder how many lbs of thrust the thing produces, and whether they should put two of them in each wing of a 747.
 
3:15 AM
@Nooble Happens every time a GPU vendor's technology gets behind--though it's been quite a while (GeForce 5000 series) since nVidia has been in that position.
 
@Nooble Don't do that. You'd break the wings.
 
I need to talk to you guys
oh my fucking god
no I am not going to ask questions, I just need to vent :o :o :o
 
Yes?
Also your rep count is about to best me :P
@JerryCoffin AMD is actually leading with their dual gpu card, the 295x2. The card is an absolute monster, sporting a liquic cooling solution. Also, I believe it draws more than 1000w. Although you are right, AMD hasn't been leading in single gpu cards in quite a while, shame as I've seen that they're always the one trying to push boundaries.
 
3:36 AM
No sane person does SLI or Crossfire.
 
@Nooble At least IMO, even though the 295x2 is currently the fastest, AMD's technology is still really behind.
Anyway, I need to go get something to eat. TTYAL.
 
3:55 AM
@Rapptz Well, if you want to crank up the graphics settings and play at an extremely high resolution, it's most likely the only choice.
 
Wait, isn't the verb "concatenation" used in english language?
I've just ended a lesson with an english student that didn't know what concatenation means.
 
I've never heard of it. Not exactly an english major though.
 
@Nooble How do you call this: "ok "s + ", or is it?"s?
 
@Jefffrey Did you mess up the formatting there? Because I have no clue what to call that.
 
@Nooble Nope, it's basically std::string("ok ") + std::string(", or is it?")
How do you call operator+ on strings?
 
4:10 AM
.append()?
Concatenation...
 
So you have heard of it?
 
Right but I don't think this will be in an average student's vocabulary. Why not just say "to link" or "to put together".
 
I have no idea if that would be correct.
I've always just called it concatenation.
That was fascinating though.
It makes me think of how some foreign person might know some weird italian term that no italian knows.
 
We take string one, and we append it to string two. <--- Sounds good to me.
 
@Jefffrey Yes.
Noun: concatenation (countable and uncountable, plural concatenations)
  1. (countable) A series of links united; a series or order of things depending on each other, as if linked together; a chain, a succession.
  2. (uncountable) The application of these series of links.
 
4:15 AM
I meant to ask if it was actually used by people.
Like if it would be in an average Joe's vocabulary.
 
I've barely heard it said, in fact I've forgotten it until you brought it up.
Just say append.
 
4:31 AM
@Jefffrey American...? Concatenation isn't frankly a rare word unless the speaker is young, I guess.
 
Yup, american.
 
Well I believe that despite being a latin word, it's not uncommonly employed in English, at least in computer-science-related fields.
But then again Americans.
@Nooble It means exactly that. 'Con' = together/with 'catenare' = link/chain
 
4:49 AM
sup scotty
 
@ScottW hello
@ScottW he's/she's... you now have an idea
he / she
Jan 27 at 1:30, by A Most Majestuous Capybara
@MarkGarcia I'm Cicada
@AMostMajestuousCapybara Sorry to spoil him! :P
 
you suck
putangina
 
@AMostMajestuousCapybara "Merkins" please--can't handle more than two syllables...
 
@AMostMajestuousCapybara Interesting. Where did you learn that?
 
@JerryCoffin ~mercunts~
@MarkGarcia My ex D:
 
4:56 AM
@AMostMajestuousCapybara Likely to be mistaken for "merchants".
 
@AMostMajestuousCapybara Good thing then you left him/her.
 
Woah
Watched "Mr. Nobody"
 
@JerryCoffin It's all the same thing
@MarkGarcia :(
 
@AMostMajestuousCapybara Sorry, but it's the worst words for profanity here. I hate hearing kids swearing with the words for matters so small.
 
@MarkGarcia He/she used it once only when he/she hurt him/herself badly
 
5:08 AM
@Mysticial cool
 
@AMostMajestuousCapybara Well I just hate those words, sorry.
 
5:59 AM
Why am I awake.
Oh right, glVertexAttribArrays.
 
6:26 AM
What do you do when your answer does not fit in a comment? You write 6 comments!
 
 
6:53 AM
@FredOverflow lol
 
  subset NonNegativeInt of Int where * >= 0;

  proto fib (|) is cached returns NonNegativeInt {*}
  multi fib (0) { 0 }
  multi fib (1) { 1 }
  multi fib (NonNegativeInt $n) { fib($n - 1) + fib($n - 2) }

  say fib(100)
This is awesome /cc @рытфолд
 
7:11 AM
> Yasser Helmy is my cousin you fucktard and he posted that picture of me. That ferrari isn't mine because that's when I was banned by my father from driving for a year because I ran over and killed one of his annoying favorite friend who was a threat to my status.
Why am I reading YT comments again?
 
Tina!

And good morning to you kind sir
@Jefffrey Only in concatenative languages
 
That's a lie
 
You're right. There's also
An agglutinative language is a type of synthetic language with morphology that primarily uses agglutination: words are formed by joining phonetically unchangeable affix morphemes to the stem. In agglutinative languages, each affix is a bound morpheme for one unit of meaning (such as "diminutive", "past tense", "plural", etc.), instead of morphological modifications with internal changes of the root of the word, or changes in stress or tone. In an agglutinative language, stems do not change, affixes do not fuse with other affixes, and affixes do not change form conditioned by other affixes. The...
But they call it affixes or agglutination
 
7:29 AM
One of my dogs has started saving his food so he can be a dick and guard it when the others have finished their eating.
maybe it is some kind of lazy going on. Or a monad?
 
5 Signs That Your Dog Is A Burrito
4
 
how is the new year so far cat?
 
7:48 AM
@CatPlusPlus :) good morning
 
How is the burrito joke translated?
 
@JohanLarsson Same as the old year
@sehe Hi
wtb opinions about yum
(Esp vs apt)
Hm, Zypper was the one with a SAT solver
 
8:29 AM
morning
 
user1804599
I was involved in a car accident.
 
user1804599
And now my neck hurts.
 
Go see a doctor
 
user1804599
It's over already.
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey indeed :)
 
user1804599
8:36 AM
@Jefffrey primality testing:
 
user1804599
sub primetest(Int $n) { so none(2..$n) * any(2..$n) == $n };
 
user1804599
Or just built-in is-prime.
 
@CatPlusPlus Is that rare?
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Seems to have some nicer options, as far as I've used it - search and local-install. Or at least I couldn't find anything equivalent for apt
(Prolly just me being bad at looking for them, though)
 
@LucDanton Yes
 
8:41 AM
sucks
 
As far as I know it's pretty much the only one
 
By search you mean apt-cache search or something else
 
The rest use some incomplete adhoc methods
 
Based on shoddy logarithms
 
Apt in particular is funny
 
8:42 AM
I’ve had aptitude segfault.
 
Jan 2 at 18:04, by Cat Plus Plus
> In our experiments, we discovered a real user trace where an install attempt for OCaml using apt-get caused 61 packages to be removed, including the Linux kernel.
I said "only one", I should've said "only one that distros actually use", there are some independent ones that do SAT like 0install
 
yeah figures
 
@Xeo apt-cache and apt-file do searching, dpkg does local installs
I really dislike the tooling and workflows involved in creating debs and apt repos
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Too complicated!
 
user1804599
9:04 AM
Perl 6 has a *~* operator!
 
user1804599
> reduce *~*, 1..10
12345678910
 
If there weren't, you could still make one, iirc.
sub infix:<ate>($foo, $bar) { say "Hello, world."; }; 7 ate 9;
 
9:29 AM
Oh, that's not an operator, it's just currying. (I don't read perl6 code often)
Didn't even notice at first.
 
user1804599
It's partial application, not currying.
 
user1804599
Can you create custom meta operators like Z?
 
Wtf...
 
I think so; operators are just subroutines. (I think)
 
Who would've thought that:
__m256d* A,B;

int c = 0;
do{
    some_function(A[c + 0],B[c + 0]);
    some_function(A[c + 1],B[c + 1]);
    c += 2;
}while (c < length);
is faster when written as:
__m256d* A,B;

int c = 0;
int stop = length * sizeof(__m256d);
do{
    some_function(((__m256d*)((char*)A + c))[0], ((__m256d*)((char*)B + c))[0]);
    some_function(((__m256d*)((char*)A + c))[1], ((__m256d*)((char*)B + c))[1]);
    c += sizeof(__m256d) * 2;
}while (c < stop);
I thought compilers were able to do this optimization.
 
9:38 AM
You need to compile with gcc --mysticial *.c
4
 
user1804599
@Mysticial gullible fool!
 
user1804599
@Pris for some reason this image slipped into our repository.
 
user1804599
[develop 9bd9d53] Remove picture of pirate ship office
 2 files changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
 delete mode 100644 web/client/src/js/sdaasds.jpg
 
Oh I see. The compiler can't legally do that optimization.
Because length * sizeof(__m256d) can overflow.
 
user1804599
It'll go to jail if it does it.
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
D. DD. DDICK?
 
10:18 AM
Oh - I got a Populist badge on meta. Must stop trolling:(
 
1892 words in my docs
 
@TonyTheLion a boneful array
 
bonad
 
that must be the pick up line of FP guys
"Are you lazy in bed? Because you just got me a bonad."
 
in On lockfree logging, queuing and memory order, 26 mins ago, by A Most Majestuous Capybara
... you work for NSE?
 
10:25 AM
I barely started and I'm already bored
 
@AMostMajestuousCapybara what's that?
 
I've driven many kilometers today
 
I drive them away
 
but heck, after 3 hours I really felt worse
it's tiring, but not obvious. The most dangerous kind
 
@AlexM. +0.5 for effort
 
10:27 AM
it's not a very good joke :(
I have no idea how to improve it
 
@sehe India's National Stock Exchange
 
@AMostMajestuousCapybara what
 
@BartekBanachewicz NSE
 
@AMostMajestuousCapybara hehe. as if they have developers logging text at low-lat
They'd be logging this in binary to some kind of bigdata solution
 
@sehe Check his workstation name.
 
10:28 AM
I build some things(heavy workload) for my partner, I don't have enough physical resources so they provide me a server, but I don't want they know how I do it(some secret information), nothing is dubious ethics here. Anyway, thank for your advice — spectre 36 secs ago
so appropriate now
 
> I build heavy workload for my partner
> But I don't have enough physical resources
lel
 
@sehe You think it's dumb? :)
 
No. It's just surprising he calls it 'logging', while the requirements indicate this is core business for the app (seeing they can afford running a dedicated CPU core at 100% spin per log file?)
 
Well, it's India after all. The usual needful.
 
shit
I told the girl at the coffee shop to give me bagels with fruit
and I got a cinammon one
how the fuck is cinammon a fruit
 
10:33 AM
shout at her
 
apple with cinammon isn't fruit either right
 
ITT: Bartek Ramsay
 
@AMostMajestuousCapybara lel
@StackedCrooked I'm at work already, I'm not going all the way down just to shout at her
 
@AMostMajestuousCapybara only if he called her a fucking donkey
 
lel
Dunno about you but I don't insult people for wrong badgels
shit the 2nd one is also with cinammon
I might want to rethink my previous statement
 
user1804599
10:37 AM
CPAN is awesome.
 
I hate it when I get a sorta-expensive skin in cs go and I like it so I can't sell it
 
lol hats
 
I was randomly dropped an M4A1 nitro and I could get 4 eur for it but I like it so I don't wanna sell it :\
 
user1804599
I need a hat.
 
@CatPlusPlus I probably shouldn't speak up because LoL skins, but at least people in LoL don't play just to sell the items
like the whole valvish franchise
I find it hilarious
 
10:45 AM
I use the money to buy keys and unlock cases
to try and get even better skins
there's so much excitement in the randomness
like flipping a coin
 
see, and I play LoL to play LoL
 
LoL skins are porn
10 minutes after I made an account
I bought hs ashe
 
funny how those weird people don't play games to get those skins eh
 
too bad dota2 doesn't have any porn :(
 
@рытфолд KPAN > CPAN
 
10:46 AM
@AlexM. dota2 is for tryhards
#trollhate
 
dota2 needs something like ahri
with less tails
 
Like, a kiting mage burster?
I don't think characters in Dota are as mobile when it comes to dashes, the mostly run like they stole something
 
no, a hot fox chick
 
@AlexM. see that's precisely the fucked up attitude
 
but I like hot chicks :(
 
10:48 AM
she's a powerful mage, and you only look at her as a hot fox chick
sexist pig
#stopgamergate
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ooh, looks sweet!
 
goood morning ladies
it's another fine Monday
despite the hour's additional fucking traffic
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes have you ever considered tabletop gaming with more focus on painting?
 
> LOLCODE is an esoteric programming language inspired by the funny things that cats say on the Internet. codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/lolcode
cats don't say anything on the internet
 
10:57 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oxymoron also lie
 
@CatPlusPlus granted also sarcasm
 
I'm so bored I'm slipping into coma
Fucking docs
 
Would a flat map be more cache efficient if I separated keys from values or not? Hmmm too lazy to benchmark :w
 
Depends on usage
 
Mostly insertion/removal from the end or "near" the end and lookup of the biggest key/value.
 
Ell
11:10 AM
@BartekBanachewicz objectification isn't sexist
IMHO
 
there's no objectification in that
it's just me highlighting that chick's best quality :A
 
Xeo
@AMostMajestuousCapybara If you always access keys/values at the same time, having them packed together makes more sense. If you often iterate over just keys or values, seperate them.
 
@Ell Reification isn't sexist either
@Xeo Hmm, good point, thanks :)
Time to go home u guise
 
I wonder how difficult it is to do something like gedosato's fixes, like say the one for dark souls
he basically provides his own directx dll to intercept calls and transform them into something else
this was to bypass the game's hardcoded 720p res
 
11:21 AM
It only depends on your ability to replace the DLL
 
are the dx redist sources available somehow?
 
You don't need them
 
or do you normally have to reverse engineer it?
 
Nope
See above
You just take the original DLL and link your intercept to it
Forward everything you don't care about, and in the overrides call the original function
It's nicer on *nixes where you can do LD_PRELOAD and forget about renaming or forwarding
 
@CatPlusPlus whoa, cool
I thought you'd have to reverse engineer the dll and write your own or sth lol
I should experiment with this
 
11:29 AM
It's harder if the game checks the integrity of its files
Or the function is linked into the executable
 
user1804599
Perl's open is pretty neat.
 
user1804599
You can pipe stuff using it.
 
user1804599
Like open(my $fh, '| grep foo > bar.txt').
 
Things packed with obscure features are always great, yes
 
@рытфолд agreeing actually
@CatPlusPlus it's pretty intuitive. Perl, being a (hahaha) scripting language (hahaha!) obviously aimed for "let's do what people expect from shell behaviour" there, as a design guide
Much like Vim's :'<,'>w !someprogram actually. It's for that target audience that lives in the shell
 
12:06 PM
Are you saying people should come out of their shells? :v
 
What a bomb shell
 
Ell
> due to We're sorry.
 
I've booted to Windows to shutdown it cleanly so I can mount the NTFS partition read-write, and after booting back I forgot what I needed out of it
Oh, fonts
Hate when that happens
 
user1804599
Ugh.
 
user1804599
Why is it so difficult.
 
user1804599
12:19 PM
To terminate when the parent process dies.
 
I like the pirate theme of risen 2
it's like tropico 2 but in third person
I also get my own grog while playing
it fits
 
user1804599
agrrgrghrggh
 
user1804599
$SIG{HUP} = sub { exit; }; doesn't work.
 
Parent process dying doesn't send out HUP to children
 
user1804599
Oh.
 
user1804599
12:30 PM
:v
 
user1804599
Perhaps I could open a pipe and exit when it's closed.
 
Though apparently you can request that on Linux
 
user1804599
Maybe I should find a higher-level library instead of using fork directly.
 
84
Q: How to make child process die after parent exits?

Paweł HajdanSuppose I have a process which spawns exactly one child process. Now when the parent process exits for whatever reason (normally or abnormally, by kill, ^C, assert failure or anything else) I want the child process to die. How to do that correctly? Some similar question on stackoverflow: (as...

Why do you need that anyway
 
sig hiccup
 
Xeo
12:37 PM
SIGCUP
 
Bored
Write documentation with me so you're also bored
 
Xeo
nope, writing boring code already now that my vacation is over :<
 
12:59 PM
thanks, but what do you mean "SSCCE"? — Haeder ALjoburey 1 min ago
Oh god. Shall I point him at the google manuals?
 

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