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12:00 AM
No, unfortunately.
 
as long as SFINAE makes sense, you're not drunk.
 
john oliver is so goddamn hilarious
 
@Puppy You've heard of John Oliver??
 
yes.
 
12:07 AM
holy fuck
did you know he's a person that exists in the world
 
he was that guy in Community, you linked his videos on here, and ever since then I've been compulsively forced to watch every single one of them because holy shit, he's fucking hilarious.
 
please give me your postal address so that I may send a congratulations card
I thought knowing things went against your religion
 
Oh come on, stop being a dick.
Oh wait, you're talking to Puppy... please continue.
 
12:29 AM
Ok, today's rant is about pre-pack cheese packaging. 'For your convenience', a rectangular block of cheese is supplied in a ziplock/resealable bag.This requires tools, (clean scissors), to unseal, so I have to wash up first.
Once I have cut along the dotted line, the top edges still cannot be separated easily by hand, so I have to grab the sides and pull, so sucking air, bacteria and mould spores inside. Having managed that, I still cannot get at the cheese block because it sticks to the sides of the bag. I cannot get the cheese out without touching it because the ziplock is along the maj
 
Ell
I like Chandler Carruth
 
lol "wash up first" c.f. "wash up after"
Anne's a lucky girl
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I know. I wish someone would tell her:)
 
oh my another kid killed by those cops
he went up to them with a knife and said "shoot me now".... so they did
someone needs to teach these cops how to disarm people rather than just shooting them dead
fucking yanks
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit why... just... fucking shit
 
12:34 AM
actually why not just shoot them in the leg?????????
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Femoral bleedout.
 
still at least you have a chance
rather than just going for the torso
 
Taser 'em.
 
yeah or that
seems the first sign of trouble they shoot to kill because they value their own lives above anyone else's
and this is supported by the regime
stupid system
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Not actually that surprising.
 
12:36 AM
it might make sense on a small scale, but in a situation like this.... socially and politically it's just vastly retarded a thing to do
i know right an American being stupid, fuck me
 
I doubt they wanted to kill him.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit and walking to a cop in a tense situation with a knife asking to be killed wasnt?
 
they had other methods to defuse the situation without resorting to murder
@Borgleader I never said that!
he was American too
 
Also, US lawyers. Failing to respond quickly to a "shoot me now" request would be a violation of their civil rights and be actionable.
 
12:37 AM
the USA is what happens when you drop off 30 kids at a play centre and leave them to it for the day
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit no, but youve been railing on the cops, while glossing over the fact that what that kid did was massively imbecile
 
@MartinJames snigger
 
To every sane people, killing someone is a huge deal. It's not something most of the people take that lightly. It was probably in some situation in which the police had to shot fast or something.
 
@Borgleader didn't mean to suggest that he wasn't also retarded, sorry
I figured that bit was self-evident at least though
@Jefffrey you never have to shoot fast. knife-wielders can be disarmed
 
Darwin...
@LightnessRacesinOrbit OK - you try it.
 
12:39 AM
loads of ways to take down a knife-wielder that does not involve shooting them dead
@MartinJames I'm not trained for it. These guys should be. Our police are
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Not really.
 
@MartinJames They have tear gas on tap out there at the moment. Pepper spray. Taser. A bit of MMA. Come on.
there are classes for civilians that teach you this stuff
disarming muggers etc
 
Assuming the the level of training and committment of a lethally-armed opponent is a really bad idea. It can get you dead.
 
The problem with sitting in your comfortable home judging people, that live hours after hours in a situation of extreme tensions, given information taken from the media, who's only purpose it to deliver the next sensational headline, is that... well, you are in no position to do that.
 
@MartinJames Well you know what that's what armed police sign up for.
As a highly armed law enforcement officer, if you're going to kill anyone who poses any threat whatsoever then you are NOT in the right job.
Go into the Army or something
@Jefffrey Well, sure, it's clear that I can only go on what I've read. I would not claim to know all the facts
However you are also making assumptions, in this case that my home is comfortable. It happens to be a little chilly tonight. So check your privilege.
 
12:43 AM
"He could have done that" -- "He was stupid for not doing that first" are superficial judgment. They gain nothing and lose everything in killing people that randomly, so I'm pretty sure the reasons that lead to that death were "special" or unexpected.
 
I seriously doubt it.
Out of bias? Yes, probably. Out of baseless bias? No. The original case that sparked this entire thing is loaded with evidence that the shooting was needless. So it's hardly a fucking stretch.
 
The original murder is a whole another matter. There wasn't half of the world watching that city back then.
 
Tensions are higher. It's more likely to happen now, not less.
 
Yes, absolutely.
 
Well then, your last comment is debunked.
 
Ell
12:46 AM
What is happening to the police officer?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Which one?
 
@Jefffrey You suggested that the circumstances surrounding the original murder are irrelevant and that because half of the world wasn't watching it was more likely there would be stupid actions then. You then agreed that it is in fact more likely for there to be stupid actions now.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I just stated the original murder was in a different context. I was discussing the "new" death, instead.
 
@Jefffrey I posit that they are totally related....
The police now feel under siege. Sure, being attacked by a knife-wielder doesn't help.
Still, losing your cool and shooting dead rather than disarming is the worst thing you can do as a police officer. It leads to, y'know, riots and shit.
 
For example, I can believe the original murder could be caused by pure racism or bullying that got out of hands. I doubt the second could have happened the same way, given that now the whole world is watching.
 
12:50 AM
If you're not going to take a little personal risk for the benefit of defusing rather than aggravating a situation, then you should not be a police officer. This should be obvious, I'd have thought.
 
It's not that easy.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No, It's not.
 
And if the risk there was great, barring this dude being some 7ft machete wielding madman with body armour, then they are either cowardly, inadequatly trained, or stupid.
@MartinJames Too bad. Maybe one day the world will catch up to my genius.
 
did you read about the journalist killed by IS. really chilling.
 
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12:52 AM
@Jefffrey No, it was probably from being fed up and therefore not defusing rather than aggravating.
Again, you DO NOT need to shoot dead a knife wielder.
EVER.
 
The fact with your genius is that it has no real experience of that situation.
 
How do you know?
bigot!
 
I read minds over TCP/IP
 
Anyone who raws/pulls a lethal weapon, a knife or gun, needs to understand the responsibilites. You can hold the right to life, or a gun/knife, but never both at the same time.
 
12:53 AM
That's ridiculous.
 
It's natural law.
 
Why not sentence every violent criminal to death immediately, then? Fuck the legal system. Who needs it?!
 
Yeah!
 
Ell
I think it kind of makes sense but not to that extreme
 
Well said.
 
12:54 AM
Attacking a police officer is not exactly a smart move.
 
Ell
By wielding a knife you're threatening to initiate force
Which is never good.
 
What legal system? When someone suddenly draws a weapon, the lawyers are asleep, in their offices or in restaurants/bars.
 
Have you not heard of something amazing called an arrest??
They spend the night in cells and get something called a lawyer, then go through this thing called a "trial"
 
@Ell By wielding a knife you are identifying yourself as a scummy person.
 
Thought you guys were supposed to be intelligent
 
12:55 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Irrelevant.
 
> Learn the higher-level C+ features
-Bjarne
 
@MartinJames ......
I think we're done here.
 
I have a feeling it's actually a typo
 
Can't argue with derpiness.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yeah, recently a famous Belgian died from the cardiac one.
 
12:56 AM
"You have the righ.....". No flowers by request.
 
Yeah no. I'm not going to run towards a guy with a knife trying to handcuff him.
 
why would you do that?
 
I point a gun at him. I tell him to drop it. Maybe twice. The third time I shoot.
 
If you are not an officer?
 
Ell
You disarm him and handcuff him
Or wield a knife back
 
12:57 AM
@Jefffrey I already listed several ways to disarm him. Try listening before you bullshit.
You disable an attacker then you arrest them. This is BASIC peacekeeping.
You don't just go around shooting everyone who might pose a threat.
 
Disarming is not as easy as in movies.
 
I didn't say it's easy.
 
Ell
It's not about how easy it is
 
@Ell I believe the police are allowed to use more brutal means when being threatened with a weapon.
 
It's not some kung fu shit and voilà.
 
12:57 AM
If I wanted an easy life I wouldn't sign up to be a fucking police officer
 
You'd become a high school teacher.
 
Ell
I don't want to pay for purchases buy I'm contractually obliged
 
And they are not exactly in a position where they have 30 more seconds to take a decision.
 
@StackedCrooked Though they never use the word "brutal".
 
@StackedCrooked Not even that
 
Ell
12:58 AM
Okay that was a terrible example
 
I'd be a professional Lounge<C++> room owner
 
@Ell lol
 
Effective, precise, stuff like that.
 
Ell
In my family I'm known for my terrible examples
 
@Jefffrey Well, yes, actually, it is. As I already stated, you can take civilian classes to train defence against knife-wielding opponents. It's well-known.
 
Ell
12:59 AM
@stacked woah now being a good high school teacher is by no means easy
 
It's not that hard to strip a novice of their knife.
 
lol
 
@Ell That was my point silly ;P
 
If you've tried it and failed, then shoot to disarm (IN THE LEG), and yeah I can't say that this isn't what happened. I admit that.
But to then kill the sucker.... well.
 
Ell
heh oh. Sorry haha
 
1:00 AM
Numpties.
 
A shot in the leg can lead to crippleness for the rest of ones' life or even amputation.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit "What happened to Fred?". "Oh, he assumed a novice. You goin' to the wake?"
 
Just wield a medieval cut-proof full-body armor and you're done.
 
I wish it was fairly harmless like in the movies :(
 
I would also like to know what the people rioting are expecting to gain. Do riots ever lead to something good?
 
1:01 AM
@StackedCrooked I wish people didn't try to kill each other so fucking much :(
that's what video games are for damnit!
 
It's probably just a vent
 
@MartinJames "What happened to John?" "Oh, the police assumed a professional. He didn't stand a chance. No trial, no lawyer, no criminal proceedings despite this being enshrined in every law in every country that exists today. You goin' to the riot?"
 
@Borgleader Statistically the killers are very small minority.
 
@StackedCrooked In local movies here, a shot in the leg mostly kills the actor (at least in those older movie ones).
 
It is the JOB of the police to NOT ESCALATE. If you assume everyone is a super duper knife genius and react accordingly then you have failed at step one.
 
1:01 AM
@StackedCrooked im also referring to wars and shit =/
 
Seriously, this is obvious.
 
If you keep shooting in the foot eventually his HP will reach zero.
7
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Unfortunately, that is the correct response to a lethal threat.
 
@StackedCrooked unless you have the golden gun, then its instant
 
@MartinJames Once you have deemed it to be an absolutely lethal threat.
That may be the case here. I don't know that it's not. I simply find it unlikely that's all
 
1:03 AM
I remember once killing an opponent like that in No One Lives Forever. That game was really hard at times.
 
@StackedCrooked I killed someone in a dream once
 
Psychopath
 
Ell
I agree with LRiO
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I hope you get arrested.
 
That was hard to spell for some reasons.
 
1:03 AM
@StackedCrooked thank you
hopefully I won't just get shot on sight
 
Ell
I agree with LRiO on tabs/spaces and I don't understand how people can argue against us
 
Just don't threaten the police, ok?
 
:D
@Jefffrey Very very few crimes are worthy of death. This is not my opinion; it is the law. It is fact.
So you can't use that as a defence.
 
Ell
The law isn't fact
 
Does the state in question even have the death penalty?
 
1:05 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit How many ms are you going to wait while the lawyers work out the probabilities?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit i think i found your next avatar
 
@MartinJames I already addressed that, several times.
 
@Borgleader but it's not me!
don't like her fringe
 
@Borgleader nah
 
1:05 AM
sorry, her "bangs" (ridiculous language variant)
 
Ell
I dont like these girl avatars
 
getting flashbacks to someone who looked a bit like her
@Ell :O
 
@Ell do they make you uncomfortable?
 
you don't like my glasses, or...? @:(
 
Because that's what they are supposed to do.
 
Ell
1:06 AM
They are deceptive and thus dishonest :P
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yeah - never understood 'bangs', (no, that's not any lethal weapon reference, I've just seen the term in novels),
 
@Ell you fancy something else then :)
 
Ell
@LRiO idk :L
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit A pretty girl looking friendly is deceptive. Don't you know that.
 
Ell
1:08 AM
I'm trying to figure out why I don't like them
 
@StackedCrooked Gravatar hash images.
 
@StackedCrooked That's a vicious generalisation in rumour form, caused by people who are not me :(
 
'She spent the remaining minutes before lunch combing out her bangs'. WTF?
 
Ell
But I know the pictures aren't you
 
I don't like email-hash gravatars
 
1:08 AM
@Ell huh I think you're confused sweetie
 
@MartinJames That's what girls do.
At least some girls.
 
Ell
Your avatar isn't a picture of you
 
Ell
Is it?
 
yeahhh
@Ell yes...
 
1:09 AM
@Ell Don't rationalize taste, it leads to terrible mumblings
 
why would a boy name himself "Lightness" lol
 
Ell
@lightness Wut. But I have a picture of you from when you posted one in the lounge :P
I'm not questioning your gender
 
@Ell Picture of you, picture of me, na na na na used to see ...
 
@Ell the glasses are deceptive. also I'm pouting less in this one
 
1:10 AM
Fuck it, I'm going to bed.
 
I changed my hair too. the other photo was quite old
@MartinJames goodnight police violence lover!
 
@MartinJames Night :)
 
Ell
I could swear you're a dude with black hair and a beard. I remember you telling Etienne you can grow a beard
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Nite cop killer!
 
@Ell He is
 
1:11 AM
Knowing you will be beheaded. Such a chilling picture.
 
Ell
I know because the picture of you is my wallpaper
 
@Ell I was trolling
 
@Ell wat
 
huh DNS just totally died on my other PC -.-
 
1:12 AM
that's creepy
 
Ell
And true :D
 
Ell
Now who's trolling who? ;)
 
@Ell phew.. you had me worried there for a moment!
Thought you were some kind of psycho -.-
 
1:13 AM
I should make a wallpaper of the whole lounge IRL
 
hehe
like a real piece of wallpaper
 
Ell
I'm not sure if I've ever posted a photo of myself on here
 
bloomin' 'ell
 
the ones that posted their IRL of course
and the ones I can track
 
you guys are funny!
 
Ell
1:15 AM
I hope one day we can get our shit together and collaborate on a project
 
with my haxor sk1llz
lol
 
@Ell i'm not having your babies
 
transexual can't get pregnant ...
 
Ell
@lightness it's okay, for how long that project would last in the lounge you could just take a morning after pill
 
Ell
1:16 AM
I wonder why lounge chat failed
 
turns out my entire NIC hiccupped
a quick ipconfig /renew * sorted it right out
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit dat onomatopoeia
 
@Jefffrey lol
 
Ell
1:25 AM
Did sehe quit?
 
wat
 
Ell
And what about Bartek?
I'm sleeping guise
Night night
 
Good night.
 
night
 
why did Ell looking for Bartek right before he went to bed, is there anything we should know about? ~_~
 
1:33 AM
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night boys
 
just noticed there's a recent Juan Tamariz movie on YT.. Unfortunately I don't understand Spanish.
 
night
 
@MarkGarcia awww a veiled way to call me a qt? :D
 
1:41 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit :)
 
@StackedCrooked ...
 
It's a good trick you should see it :P
 
He knows what card it is, the car is "charged" with the correct amount of centimeters from the selected car so that it stops at that point.
The car is charged by pulling back the car.
 
yeah, but it's great entertainment
this is even better a trick with only three cars
@Jefffrey btw, it's easy to say the car is "charged" without knowing exactly what's going on.
But yeah, it's something like that.
 
He is good
 
1:57 AM
@Jefffrey He's also highly respected by other magicians.
 
@StackedCrooked You don't lose "socks". You only lose "sock". The other always ends up missing.
 
At least he is keeping up with his other two goals in life.
 
I bought this large tile cutter from some Chinese off ebay, they sent me the whole new machine - without a menu
and told me to learn from youtube
Oo, wait the machine worked ... saved myself $100
I guess buying brand new things with only half of the normal price always come with some catch
 
2:24 AM
Walter Bright on X macros. It's remarkable how unknown this super powerful techinque is.
I read this article a few years ago and thought it was mildly interesting.
Only recently I've decided to use it for something and my mind has been blown away.
Figuratively speaking.
 
> Proper macro hygiene
lol
 
@JohanLarsson I remember watching the clip for Gangster Trippin on TV when I was a teenager. I wondered if it's really legal to have lyrics that invite people to take illegal drugs. Apparently the official lyrics are "we got to kick that gangster shit" but it really sounds like "you gotta take that XTC".
^ The embarrassing 1998ties.
1998 was the year of trance music. Figuratively speaking, the genre literally exploded here.
 
3:41 AM
@StackedCrooked Should have listened to XTC
 
4:04 AM
@JerryCoffin Right. That should cleans my polluted mind somewhat.
 
@StackedCrooked Definitely.
 
Don't know many songs of them. Dear God is most popular around here.
 
 
@StackedCrooked Of course, if you really want to cleanse your mind, you need some Celestial Navigations.
 
@JerryCoffin A colleague mentioned mentioned that the same people also produced a well-known electronic track. But I forgot the title.
blue monday iirc
Oh wait, that was Joy Division.
 
4:16 AM
Early morning!
 
@StackedCrooked New Order
 
right
Which was made up of members of Joy Division.
That surprised me a lot.
Since the styles are so different.
 
@StackedCrooked I think that's why they came up with a different name--that music would have gone too far against people's expectations of Joy Division.
 
I have never listened to Joy Division except Love Will Tear Us Apart. I like New Order.
What song are you talking about?
 
I don't think that was all of it though--if I recall correctly, one of the members of Joy Division died (suicide?), and they decided that was the end of the band.
 
4:24 AM
@JerryCoffin Yes, the singer. And then they formed New Order.
 
@VáclavZeman Blue Monday was the one that got mentioned.
 
@JerryCoffin Ah, yeah, that is a nice one. Nice synthpop.
 
@VáclavZeman At the time I liked synth, but a little...heavier of music. youtube.com/watch?v=fLS0Med0s6E
 
user457812
It's funny to think that a coastal state can suffer a drought.
 
user457812
Also makes me glad I don't live in CA anymore.
 
4:34 AM
Even oceans have droughts.
Oh wait, they don't.
 
user457812
I should really start listening to music at work but I'm not sure if that's acceptable.. on the other hand I probably shouldn't care.
 
@nil I could not live without headphones in our open space.
...and music, of course.
Unicode fail?
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4:51 AM
Pointless personal story: my oldest brother bought Rick Wakeman's "The Six Wives of Kind Henry the Eighth" and "Brain Salad Surgery" on the same trip to the store. The night he brought them home and listened to them, I was reading "A Tale of Two Cities". The combination had an emotional impact that makes every movie I've seen yet pale by comparison.
 
user3010322
That... actually sounds pretty epic.
 
@ThePhD I certainly thought so. Still do, I guess--my memory of that evening is still quite clear 40+ years later (and listening to that music still sometimes gives me chills that I'm pretty sure go beyond what it probably causes for almost anybody else).
 
5:08 AM
@StackedCrooked Pretty sure that left alone it would/does.
 
Yeah, but normally air goes up very fast.
I didn't know it could be controlled like that.
So Belgium might have a shortage of electricity if the coming winter turns out to be cold one. A nuclear power station is temporarily (> 1 year) shut down after sabotage was detected a few weeks ago. And another one is shut-down because the "walls" are showing cracks.
 
@StackedCrooked To create the ring, they must be creating a water current which (at a guess) is basically traveling toroidally, so on one side it's a downward current that (partially) holds the air in place.
 
Oh I see.
 
Ok, my property is now officially the cheapest rental house in the whole suburb & with the almost brand new bathroom (to be completed in 3 days) I am not lowering the rent by even 1 cent!
The two lower ones are gone now ...
always paying attention to your competition :p
too many people showing interest, none signed the contract yet.
 
5:21 AM
That's strange. "Xeo" doesn't show up when I hit "@X". But he's spoken here very recently.
 
I think he's no longer in the room.
If completion doesn't work I reply to recent message.
Because I'm not certain if notification will work otherwise.
 
It's supposed to work if the user is either in the room, or has spoken recently. But maybe they changed that recently.
 
user3010322
5:38 AM
> StringSingleton
 
user3010322
Nice...?
 
@ThePhD Stringleton
 
Strangleton
 
user3010322
@JerryCoffin That actually sounds kinda catchy.
 
@Mysticial Strangways. In case you don't know who that is: he was an unseen lead-up to (arguably) the ultimate Bond Girl.
I guess if you want to get technical, you do actually see him at the very beginning of the movie, but only momentarily.
 
user3010322
5:50 AM
This is strange. Even though I have an Equals method, it doesn't apply for when I do hexpoint == hexpoint in C#...
 
user3010322
Maybe I need to also override object.Equals to get the operator== to apply automatically from Equals?
 
user3010322
This is a lot of boilerplate...
 
user3010322
Fuck my life.
 
@ThePhD Companies that have the most programmers tend to design systems and languages that favor those who have the most programmers. Languages that are more parsimonious in using resources tend to come from sources that have less resources available.
 
user3010322
The DirectX Debugger for visual studio is now crashing everytime I try to read or write memory from a CPU-writable IndexBuffer...
 
user3010322
5:59 AM
So I can't debug my graphics problem regularly, Goddamnit.
 

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