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6:00 PM
global optimal is to use two bombs in the second layer.
anyway
 
The USPS contrary to popular belief isn't failing because of e-mail
It never has and it probably never will.
 
The Web is not the Internet! / shouting from the mountain tops
 
The USPS started failing in 2006, around the time the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act was passed.
 
@Code-Guru Interwebs. :3c
 
I think they both have benefits, but I think taxing email is absurd. My point was that it was supposed to save the USPS, not that it it bad, but... that is not the way to do it.
 
6:01 PM
@Rapptz I'm sure email has hurt their business, but certainly isn't the main reason USPS is going down the tubes.
 
@user190929 I'm not sure where this discussion came from, but taxing email lightly would make a HUGE difference in spam
 
Taxing email is retarded
 
@MooingDuck You actually have a nice point, but that hurts everybody, unfortuately.
 
Anywho.
 
@MooingDuck how would you tax email?
 
6:02 PM
Kind of like SOPA and all the DRM stuff.
 
@melak47 Fun Fact: You probably can't
 
@user190929 it affects legit people lightly, spammers heavily. I'll take that.
 
So I don't see the discussion.
 
It just makes it more lucrative for spammers, actually.
 
Unless all nations in the world collectively agreed on taxing email, I don't see how it would work.
 
6:03 PM
And makes it more lucrative to set up "black market" mailing.
 
I doubt you can, but I have seen the government do querky things before.
 
@Mysticial: I'm starting to believe that this problem is hard even with only 0s and 1s
 
The Web is not exclusive to the United States and US tax laws.
So I don't get how you'd "tax" it
 
Let's not worry about the laws and look at the technical side of it:
 
Maybe the UN. Not sure.
 
sbi
6:03 PM
@FredOverflow What a strange definition of loser!
 
@MooingDuck "lightly"? Do you know how many people use things out of the fact that it's free?
 
@nneonneo If it's only 0s and 1s, then it's a strict subset of SCP.
 
@user190929 The UN has no ruling power.
 
@Rapptz tax emails sent from inside the US via ISPs in the US, and also tax imported emails via ISPs in the US.
 
@Mysticial: yeah, but that doesn't tell us anything
because even strict subsets of problems can be NP-hard
 
6:04 PM
@nneonneo I know.
 
@MooingDuck And you honestly believe this is a good idea?
 
@sbi yeah, but you have a silver tongue. Still... I find it strange how I discus parenting, when I don't have kids, and have very little interest in the idea (for the time being at least). I guess it's easy to think 'I would be better', but nothing like trial by fire. And I really hope fire doesn't start any time soon!
 
How is an ISP an indication of your location? Shouldn't it be based on your IP address?
 
@Rapptz I believe it should be considered, it's definitely not fully thought out.
 
You can't tax-emial.
You'd have to always attach a person to an e-mail.
 
6:04 PM
I'm sure someone want's to try.
 
And it's been well-proven that you don't necessarily have to all the time.
 
@Rapptz I think he's saying the ISPs pay, and you pay your ISP
 
You can have computers send automated e-mails.
 
@melak47 Makes more sense than what I was thinking
Still fucking dumb
 
@melak47 Oh man, another reason for Comcast to bill me and sniff my packets.
 
6:05 PM
@melak47 yeah, that's what I was thinking
 
"We've noticed you've sent 600 e-mails this months. Here's your bill:"
 
the ISP is probably in the best position to figure out how many emails their customers are sending
 
@melak47 or the email provider at least
 
and how would it do that?
 
@MooingDuck but then you'd need some way to eliminate free mail providers
 
6:06 PM
@melak47 Not happening.
One goes down, another person will pop up.
 
@melak47 not eliminate. merely tax. Even if they don't task the users directly, they'll prevent users from using it to spam
 
and if not, then there will just be a mass exodus to chat.
 
sbi
@thecoshman I had no interest in having kids on my own when I started to notice how parents do their kids wrong. I would start out taking a kid serious, and get very positive results, where parents reacted annoyed, and only got wailing. Basically, this feeling that most of them are doing it wrong is what eventually made me have a child of my own.
So, yeah, I am just one of those annoying know-it-alls. :-/
 
when (besides placement new) would be a valid time to call an object's destructor explicitly?
 
Seriously the idea is stupid, I can't believe you guys are trying to legitimise it :(
 
6:07 PM
@TonyTheLion never?
 
@sbi "gah, you're all noobs at this! Let me show you how it's done!"
 
@MooingDuck but it's defined behavior to do it?
 
@Rapptz stupid because you don't see how, or stupid for moral reasons or stupid because you don't want to pay?
 
@Rapptz lol I'm not
 
@sbi was it an active decision to have spawn, or an accident? if you don't mind my asking
 
6:08 PM
@MooingDuck Honestly, all 3.
 
Likewise :D
 
sbi
@melak47 That was the worst. I was the newbie, and it seemed so obvious that they had been doing it wrong for years.
 
@TonyTheLion yes, BUT: the destructor will be called when a local object leaves scope. Which means it MUST be "constructed" when the scope ends, even by destructor. If you destruct a local variable, and attempt to reconstruct it, it could throw an exception, which would be UB at that point.
 
We already pay for certain email providers at certain work places
So.. there's that too.
 
@MooingDuck I'm talking about something where you used new explicitly
 
6:09 PM
@MooingDuck Getting to the middle has terrible performance on linked lists :)
 
What other languages have destructors? I have no clue on javascript, but I doubt it. Not Java. C#?
 
Also I still don't believe the USPS is bad like you guys think it is.
 
@MooingDuck I missed the start of this discussion, why are spammers a big enough problem to make you want to tax emails?
 
@TonyTheLion good point. In that case you'd have no way to free the memory.
 
@user190929 D
 
6:10 PM
never heard of it :D
 
@melak47 because I get a lot of spam at one of my emails (That's after two spamfilters)
 
All that would happen is it would get worse, and they'd get paid even more to do it illicitly.
 
@sbi How long have you been away? Welcome back :)
 
user142019
@user190929 C# has destructors.
 
sbi
@thecoshman One of my later kids was unplanned (but welcomed anyway), all the other ones were either actively decided for or one of those now-is-as-good-a-time-as-any don't-worry-about-contraception kids.
 
6:11 PM
@MooingDuck Spammers make money somehow anyway. Do you think a light tax would affect them given their proposed profit margin?
 
@Zoidberg It does? I thought it only had finalizers.
 
user142019
But not RAII.
 
Xeo
@MooingDuck ::operator delete
 
@MooingDuck I've never had much of a problem with spam. or at least my email provider filters most of it into a folder I don't look at :p
 
6:11 PM
@melak47 Same
 
@ThePhD spam works because they send 100000 free emails, and 100 people buy the product for $20. If it cost them $200 to send those 100000 emails, they'd go away.
 
sbi
@FredOverflow I have been away since yesterday.
 
@Rapptz I don't think USPS is bad per se, just whiners.
 
user142019
Destruction in C# and Java is not deterministic.
 
sbi
@Rapptz Guess what was one of the main reasons to use that moniker? :)
 
6:12 PM
@MooingDuck Orrr... do it illicitly.
 
user142019
Python has destructors too; __del__.
 
@Rapptz And my previous inflamatory comment was mostly tongue-in-cheek. The Interwebs must have dropped a sarcasm package.
 
@melak47 my email provider filters 95%. Then my client filters 90% of what gets through. I still get like 5/day.
 
> The PAEA stipulates that the USPS is to make payments of $5.4 - $5.8 billion into the Postal Service Retiree Health Benefits Fund, each year, from 2007 to 2016 in order to prefund 75 years of estimated costs. This requirement also explicitly stated that the USPS was to stop using its savings to reduce postal debt, which was stipulated in Postal Civil Service Retirement System Funding Reform Act of 2003
 
@Zoidberg What good are destructors without RAII? When are they invoked?
 
6:13 PM
LOL
 
user142019
@FredOverflow when GC collects object.
 
@TonyTheLion Mostly because it's strange and there's no reason to do it that way. Buffer + placement new makes more sense.
 
And you wonder why they "whine"? :|
 
@Zoidberg Oh, so they are definitely called sometime in the future?
 
user142019
Erlang has destructors if you use the native interface.
 
6:13 PM
Taking Retiree's money and filtering it into the deby system!
That's fucking awesome.
 
user142019
@FredOverflow yes.
 
Holy god.
 
@Rapptz no, I understand why. Just don't think the whining will do much good.
 
user142019
IIRC, C# guarantees that all objects are destructed before program terminates normally.
 
@Zoidberg Interesting. I'm pretty sure Java gives no guarantees whatsoever about the execution of finalizers.
 
Xeo
6:14 PM
@MooingDuck My email provider filters basically 99.9999%, from what I can see. I get a spam email once per month or so
 
@MooingDuck well, that seems like a few, but...so what? 5 emails..
 
@Rapptz and I think it will do some good for them to drop Sat letter delivery.
 
@orb Wow, that is a sensible question. Congratulations and welcome to the Lounge!
 
user142019
@FredOverflow :)
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes There was an event that triggered me leaving, but, after almost a decade at one company, it mainly was that I wanted to see what I'm worth on the job market. So @Xeo had it almost right.
 
6:14 PM
seems hardly enough to get annoyed by
 
orb
Weeeeee!
thx
 
they only dropped Saturday delivery because of that act.
 
@melak47 yes. Plus any lost emails that the filters threw away.
 
What is it you sign up for that you get so much spam?
 
:(
 
6:14 PM
@user190929 probably amazon :p
 
Xeo
That was sarcastic.
 
@orb You'd probably have better luck getting an answer on SO proper, though.
 
@user190929 it's the internet, you need accounts for freaking everything.
 
@MooingDuck I know, which I do, but I get... no spam
 
"we noticed you looking at product XYZ, maybe you'd also like these products U, V and W?!"
 
orb
6:15 PM
I was thinking that question might be closed as not constructive
 
@melak47 Yeah, 80% of my emails is amazon and eBay.
 
I get no spam either.
You can unsubscribe :|
 
orb
but maybe I should give it a shot anyway
 
I have an email address solely for making internet accounts, so all the spam is in an email I rarely use
 
@Rapptz cause of what act? From what I understand, Sat delivery doesn't stop until Aug or something. And it was a unilateral decision by the Post Master GEneral without Congress approvial (at least the last I heard).
 
6:16 PM
I am guessing for - what rappz said.
 
@melak47 They sometimes suggest stuff that I already bought a long time ago :)
 
@Code-Guru The act I posted above.
 
@Rapptz most of the stuff that gets through is from facebook about sexy singles in my area. No unsubscribe.
 
@MooingDuck lol
 
Facebook sends that? whah?
 
6:16 PM
Prefunding 75 years worth of health benefits and retiree funding.
 
@user190929 IKR? where can I sign up? :p
 
@user190929 I seriously doubt it's really from facebook, but faking the "from" in an email isn't difficult I hear.
 
@orb If you want to post on chat at least post somewhere where it makes sense. And don't trawl through multiple chat rooms spamming the same thing
 
Might be from zooskz. Saw that on some web page.
 
@MooingDuck I've.. only seen those as advertisements in porn sites.
 
6:17 PM
Similar to the "You are the lucky xxx of something!"
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz If you think a girlfriend is expensive you'll be in for a big surprise once you got yours pregnant.
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I don't think I've ever gotten an email from them.
 
@Rapptz Ahh...I missed that during my alt-tabbing
 
Which makes me think you click the "like" button on pornsites don't you.
 
orb
yeah i trued to find a JavaScript or jQuery chat room
 
6:17 PM
@Rapptz somewhere they got my email.
 
orb
tried*
as well as an html chat room
 
you naughty mooingduck
 
Xeo
@orb And failure to do so led you here?
 
@Rapptz no. nor do I have any accounts on any such sites
 
@MooingDuck ah right
now, what the heck??
 
6:18 PM
@TonyTheLion there's plenty of free stuff, I don't trust them with my email
 
@orb I see you're already in the JavaScript room. Is there a problem?
 
user142019
@FredOverflow then what's the point of finalizers. :|
 
orb
Yeah. And, well, there are a lot of people in here :-)
 
Someone should add "...doing JavaScript" to the end of the Room name...
 
@MooingDuck I'd be surprised if anyone did (truthfully)
 
6:18 PM
@MooingDuck what?
 
sbi
@ScottW Don't do that! What are you gonna sit on?
 
honestly...I don't get enough spam that I'd even consider paying for emails. I mean...if I pay for emails received...the spam costs me money, that's just...lolnope
 
Xeo
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT THIS REASONING
It's seriously getting on my nerves by now.
 
Out of curiosity I decided to check my spam folder.
 
@melak47 wait, what? Nobody said to pay for emails received. That's just lunacy.
 
6:19 PM
I have 19 things there, some of them aren't spam.
 
orb
@BoltClock I don't know? Is there there a problem occifer?
lol
 
sbi
@ScottW It'll be hard to sit and have a shit with a computer chair instead of your ass fixed to your bottom.
 
@MooingDuck you said something about paying for emails imported, must've misunderstood
 
user142019
 
user142019
Giant onebox of giantness.
 
Xeo
6:19 PM
@sbi What about an integrated toilet?
 
still...I don't even give things my email anymore. unless it's important things, which I trust.
 
@ScottW Gross dude.
 
blarghlasfd@mailinator.com ftw
 
@melak47 oh, true. The intent was for the US ISP to charge the foreign ISP for those, not the recipients.
 
orb
@BoltClock sorry just realized you a moderator. Forgive me.
 
6:20 PM
Bow down to @BoltClock
3
 
sbi
@Xeo I am sure your girlfriend will appreciate you wearing such a thing.
 
@MooingDuck yeah that makes more sense :p
 
@Rapptz actually, my provider's filter only caught 19 spam this month.
 
user142019
@ScottW Buy a fridge full of milk and use empty milk bottles. Who needs a toilet?
 
user142019
(This has been done before.)
 
Xeo
6:21 PM
@orb Wait, so you bow before a moderator, but not before the guys into whose room you stormed?
Seriously?
 
Mom! Hot pockets!
 
@Xeo <trolololol/>
 
we need more Hot Pockets!
 
@MooingDuck I really never get spam anymore and I use this email a lot
 
@Zoidberg Josh Bloch recommends against finalizers. If you must use finalizers, only put non-critical safety-nets in there.
 
6:21 PM
It's weird.
 
orb
I don't know the rules. I am a noob. I get a lot of good info here. I bow to no one except the fat kid from Goonies. Not sure why I bow to him.
 
@Xeo Ouch. That makes sense in hindsight, but it's still stupid. Perhaps a serialization example? One overload set for fundamental types, one for UD-types (e.g. enumerations and class types that fulfil an is_serializable trait such that serialize(s, value) is a valid expr), and then fallbacks such as using is_stream_extractable and triviality?
 
user142019
Microsoft suggests using destructors in C# for freeing resources, and also IDispose.
 
:8225042 hmmm, I can't figure out why it's returning element_type* instead of pointer?
 
@orb You could start by reading the rules / points to the right
 
6:22 PM
Would destructors firing on GC cause timing issues?
 
@TonyTheLion Isn't that the same thing?
 
sbi
@Xeo There's little enough to wait for. He spoke a few small sentences and made a few errors. His pronunciation was good enough for us to understand him. We still talked English all night. :)
 
@TonyTheLion never knew of pointer_traits
 
Xeo
@sbi He didn't want to talk in German on Mumble. :(
 
@FredOverflow no, because if you put pointer the compiler complains that its not convertible to int* in this case
 
sbi
6:23 PM
@Xeo Er ist ein Feigling! :)
 
user142019
In Haskell you have destructors too!
 
@Zoidberg You mean deconstructors? :)
 
orb
@Code oh this is a C++ room
hehe
 
user142019
@FredOverflow They're officially called finalizers.
 
Xeo
6:24 PM
@LucDanton Yeah, streaming was also the thing that first came to mind - mainly because I already have a basic example of that in that one SO answer.
 
@TonyTheLion Did you read the error message? "'std::pointer_traits<std::shared_ptr<int> >::pointer {aka std::shared_ptr<int>}'"
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes I knew this word would drag you out of hiding!
 
@Zoidberg Haskell has them? For what? Destroying values? :)
 
orb
So, if I ask a Java question I will probably get insta-killed.
 
Yes :D
 
6:25 PM
What else would you expect me to have said in German? You guys were speaking English!
 
user142019
@FredOverflow FFI; say you wrap mmap for allocating memory with certain access privileges then you want finalizer to call munmap.
 
user142019
newForeignPtr :: FinalizerPtr a -> Ptr a -> IO (ForeignPtr a)
 
@orb Not if you ask it here!
 
And it's not like I speak much, even in English, which I have no trouble with.
 
orb
haha just kidding
 
6:25 PM
@TonyTheLion and shared_ptr<int> is not implicitly convertible to int*. What's the problem?
 
sbi
@Zoidberg I see almost everything. Sooner or later, anyway.
 
"So, I have this Java program..."
 
orb
im going over there anyway. Later!
 
@MooingDuck wait? T* isn't the underlying type of shared_ptr but somehow T is? which is typedef T element_type?
@MooingDuck yes I realize that
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion ::pointer is the type you passed in. ::element_type is the referenced / pointed-to type.
 
user142019
6:26 PM
@sbi almost!
 
user142019
So there's still a change you won't see it!
 
user142019
Worth the risk, I say.
 
@Xeo but it's both typedef T or typedef T* so, huh?
 
@Zoidberg Did you remove from the JS room?
 
@nneonneo I've added code to demonstrate the approach. I agree it's not always optimal, however I believe it's a pretty good approach. Especially since there is no backtracking. In your example, my routine takes 5 drops to clear. The optimal approach is 4. Not bad.
 
Xeo
6:27 PM
@TonyTheLion std::unique_ptr<T, special_deleter_that_changes_the_pointer_type>
 
user142019
@FredOverflow There are two room owners. Now try to ask again.
 
@TonyTheLion what do you mean "underlying type"? pointer_traits<T>::pointer is a typedef for T.
 
@MooingDuck T*, element_type is for T
 
@Zoidberg @Zoidberg Did I remove from the JS room?
 
@TonyTheLion Why would you want a pointer to a shared_pointer?
 
user142019
6:28 PM
@FredOverflow nope.
 
@TonyTheLion T is shared_ptr<int>, not int inside of pointer_traits
 
sbi
@Telkitty Of course I was here. Of course I told you to behave. Of course I plonked you when you didn't. Now fuck off.
 
@MooingDuck template< class T > struct pointer_traits<T*>;
 
Oh, while there's a bunch of people here.
 
int * const * volatile * const * volatile * const * volatile * p;   // XMAS decoration
 
6:29 PM
Syntax preference!
 
so here T would be shared_ptr<int>
and T* then shared_ptr<int>*, right?
 
Wait what.
 
@TonyTheLion oh, so you're dealing with a pointer to a shared_pointer? yeah.
 
Xeo
@MooingDuck That's the partial specialization for raw pointers.
Don't get confused now!
 
fuck C++ and stupid complexities
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6:30 PM
// Which one?
T Position();
void Position( T );

/* ... Or ? ... */

T GetPosition();
void SetPosition( T );
 
I'm going to ask on SO
 
^ Which would you lurves?
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion No
 
@Xeo oh curses.
 
Ell
T Position(); void SetPosition(T);
 
6:30 PM
@ThePhD Neither?
 
@TonyTheLion what are you trying to do? Why do you have those two functions?
 
Xeo
@ThePhD public: T position;
 
Ell
or T Position(); void MoveLeft(); void MoveRight();
 
@ThePhD I prefer the second
 
I meant if it's not trivially settable.gettable. D:
 
6:30 PM
@MooingDuck it came from an answer to a question, let me find a link
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A: When writing generic code for smart pointers and pointers, how to get the simple pointer?

Howard HinnantHere's what I do to solve this problem: #include <memory> template <class T> inline T* to_raw_pointer(T* p) noexcept { return p; } template <class Pointer> inline typename std::pointer_traits<Pointer>::element_type* to_raw_pointer(Pointer p) noexcept { return ::...

 
If it's just like a public member I don't actually wrap it up.
 
@ThePhD snake_case!
 
I'm asking about something that may set other variables and do some work.
 
@TonyTheLion were they looking for .get()? wtf?
 
Ell
Hmm. Can a static function of a class access said class' internals? A constructor for example?
 
6:32 PM
@ThePhD Sounds like something that does something. Why doesn't it have a name related that something?
 
Xeo
@melak47 Tell me how a T* has a .get() method.
@R.MartinhoFernandes this
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz And behold: It works!
 
he has an overload with pointer_traits<Pointer>::element_type* as return type, and I wondered why he can't have ::pointer instead of element_type*, because from my understanding that is what element_type* would be.
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion For std::pointer_traits<std::shared_ptr<int>>, ::pointer is std::shared_ptr<int>
 
6:33 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Because that work only happens when you set the position or other related member.
 
Xeo
It's exactly what you pass in.
@ThePhD You seem to be confused.
 
@Xeo ah, and element_type is int then?
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion Yes
 
@ThePhD I expect something called "set position" to set the position. Not to set the position and do some work.
 
sbi
@ThePhD There's a lot more to being a grumpy old ape, let alone The Grumpy Old Ape. (Like carefully reading the transcript from a month ago.)
 
6:34 PM
It should clearly be SetPositionAndDoSomeWork(T)
 
Xeo
@sbi Wasn't that TGOM when I first joined here?
@R.MartinhoFernandes "clearly"
 
I get it now. Thanks @Xeo :)
 
Xeo
Oops, my German slipped there. Or something.
@TonyTheLion np
 
sbi
@thecoshman At one point he had his own implementation. Would that qualify him?
 
It's bin so long.
 
6:35 PM
10 mins ago, by Mooing Duck
@TonyTheLion Did you read the error message? "'std::pointer_traits<std::shared_ptr<int> >::pointer {aka std::shared_ptr<int>}'"
 
sbi
@Xeo I was in disguise back then.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes I was also thinking of that meaning of "bin".
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes You are a slow robot!
 
@MooingDuck eh yes, turns out I was reading the wrong part of the pointer_traits documentation
My foolishness knows no bounds.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I guess I'll just go with Set/Get position, then. =[
Anywhos.
BACK TO WORK!
 
6:36 PM
Wait what.
 
SetPosition, GetPosition. And then it'll do Reculatulate() and other stuff inside that it needs to do when the position changes.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "Suit and Tie" really is worth it. And only because I remember the JT reference from the conversation from then. =)
 
Xeo
@ThePhD "I guess I'll just ignore any and all advice."
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@ThePhD NO
 
That's not what I meant!
 
Xeo
STOP
 
It's
 
Xeo
BAD PHD
 
Nooo I'm not Baaad. ;~;
 
@Xeo And yet you continue to provide some?
 
@MooingDuck smart duck :)
 
Xeo
6:38 PM
@LucDanton I still have the slight hope of being able to smack some sense into him
 
@TonyTheLion I'm still testing it
 
Xeo
Kinda like training a pet.
 
But... but I'm not doing it wrong... ;~;
 
@ThePhD Don't piss of Xeo please :)
 
I'm not trying toooo.
 
6:38 PM
Isn't "position" the textbook example, btw?
 
Like, like like
Here's an example of what i meant:
 
(follows terrible example that has other problems)
 
Xeo
@LucDanton Btw I think I'll use your serialization idea.
 
void DeferredCelShader::SetScreenSize( const Furrovine::Vector2& size ) {
	if ( screensizeparameter != null )
		screensizeparameter->SetValue( size );
	if ( pixelsizeparameter != null )
		pixelsizeparameter->SetValue( 1.0f / size );
}
 
I did say serialization, not streaming.
 
Xeo
6:40 PM
Oh, true.
There
 
I do more than just "set a public member", but it's basically just SetScreenSize and GetScreenSize. Should... I do it differently?
 
Xeo
Right after I go and hunt some dinner.
 
user142019
Imagine you fall asleep in the train, and you wake up some time later and your pants are stolen.
3
 
user142019
What would you do?
 
6:41 PM
@Zoidberg A dance. On the subway pole.
 
@Zoidberg Find someone asleep in the train and steal their pants. Do not break the chain!
 
user142019
@ThePhD Ownage.
 
user142019
@R.MartinhoFernandes they do that a lot with bicycles in Amsterdam. :P
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's basically how a certain episode of a certain anime goes.. /cc @Mysticial
 
I should sue them for retroactively stealing my idea.
 
Xeo
6:43 PM
@ScottW With you, the basic assumption is already broken - dogs don't wear pants.
 
@Xeo He's pee nonetheless. He's a dog.
 
Xeo
Anyways, be back in 30mins
 
>_<
I want to start working again
but Xeo told me I'm bad and I should not do what I am doing
so I am sitting here frozen not doing anything but waiting.
It's a horrible feeling. :c
 
@ThePhD null :(
 
const auto null = nullptr.
null is my friend. <3
 
Xeo
6:44 PM
BAD PHD
 
sbi
@thecoshman I'm not the D&D guy anyway.
 
@Xeo What did I do now? ;~;
 
Xeo
Go into your corner, I'll deal with you once I get back from shopping.
 
=[
 
6:45 PM
lol
 
@Zoidberg Pants you just bought new, or pants you were wearing?
 
Xeo
This is fun.
 
It's not fun for me!
 
user142019
@FredOverflow the latter, of course.
 
it dawns on me that my code looks more and more like his answer. Deleted my comment :(
 
6:47 PM
hehe
 
@Zoidberg Why are you asking, anyway? Did it happen to a friend of yours?
 
user142019
@FredOverflow no, but I misread what a friend of mine said.
 
user142019
She said "koek" (cookie) but I misread it as "broek" (pants).
 
@MooingDuck hey nice :)
 
user142019
6:48 PM
It was about stealing cookies. :L
 
jesus fucking christ, HoTS takes forever to load.
 
> warning: class ‘LonelyGuy’ is implicitly friends with itself
Implicitly? Why implicitly?
 
@FredOverflow C++ classes are not emos.
 
6:49 PM
@AnthonyQueen the optimality of any greedy-like approach is given by the approximation ratio of SCP under the same circumstances, I think
 
user142019
@FredOverflow because uh, every class can access its own private members?
 
so yes, greedy will get you part of the way there. But the problem is still about finding the optimal solution.
 
user142019
Hence every class is its own friend.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes emos reads like errnos.
 
user142019
@FredOverflow you fail at keming.
 
6:50 PM
@Zoidberg Oh, I thought the warning meant that my line of code would be the implicit friendship :)
 
user142019
No, that's explicit (and redundant; hence the warning).
 
sbi
Your French can be pardoned. Your German must be sentenced.
 
I will force my German upon you next time. You will not like it.
 
@Xeo I don't recall any episode of any show where pants are stolen in a train. But Kuroko does steal Misaka's pants in Railgun.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes You'll be too drunk anyway.
I can no longer remember what I drink to forget.
 
6:53 PM
I was fine the other day!
 
sbi
Now that is indeed worth mentioning!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Your German isn't that bad.
 
@sbi lol
 
I've heard worse
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion In Belgium, no doubt.
 
6:55 PM
My German is this: add "sparken" onto the end of a word, and it is worth a shot :D
 
@user190929 wut?
 
@sbi Nice trolling there :)
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion In Belgium? And here I thought trolls were a Norwegian thing...
 
6:57 PM
Like... to me, all german words sounds.. similar. Not sure what it is.
And, *spraken
 
You're doing that old trick again, sigh. I shall leave now.
 
@user190929 I think you haven't heard enough German...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I am certain of the fact :D
I do, though, know... a bit of spanish. Very basic.
 
user142019
Speaking of German…
 
user142019
I'm going to see Rammstein live this year. \o/
 
6:59 PM
Can you expand on what Rammstein is?
 
user142019
It's a German band.
 

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