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7:00 PM
@EtiennedeMartel oh finally you brought here something good. (comparing with those feminist articles)
 
sbi
Good evening.
 
sbi
@Borgleader What for? I don't use Blender. I barely know what it is for.
 
I accidently plinked you, I'm not used to have to tab over your name to get to sehe
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hey, I didn't even know you listen to Low! I love their music! I suppose you know The Great Destroyer?
@R.MartinhoFernandes You said that about me approximately a decade later than some other friend of mine. :)
@sehe Actually, for whatever reason, I didn't that. It seems silly to me. Sorry.
 
7:06 PM
I like this pic
 
sbi
I wonder whether this is shopped.
From what I know, male lions do not particularly care for their cubs. (They do care for other male's cubs, though: They kill them when they take over a group of females.)
 
user1804599
@EtiennedeMartel looks funny with f.lux enabled.
 
@sbi Did you get past the tiny men?
 
user1804599
> Wat gaan Nederlandse special forces doen in Mali?
 
user1804599
Geld weggooien.
 
sbi
7:13 PM
@sehe I got as far as the mantis shrimp and the bloody body. That was the last on the first page, if there are more pages.
Yesterday the guy leading our technical department gave us a short presentation on what projects are currently negotiated for next year, and how he plans to spend his resources (i.e., us) to do the necessary work. At some point I blurted out "but that would take four times as many developers as we currently are!" To which he responded with "Yes."
So it seems we are hiring. If some of you think they're good in programming C++, can do or can learn to do embedded (limited resources, no debugger), are social enough to get along with a nice bunch of cow-workers (yeah, right, that's why you all hang out here...), would like to work in the renewable energy sector, and would be willing to live in Berlin, give me some means to reach you.
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@sbi Are you looking right now? I won't be available for another 6 months.
 
user1804599
> cow-workers
 
user1804599
Nice play.
 
He always does this.
 
sbi
@FredOverflow We know that it is hard to get good developers in under 6 months. I'd be happy to suggest you.
 
7:16 PM
Is it a 40 hours/week job?
I'm seriously considering it, because a) C++ and b) outside of my comfort zone of Hamburg.
 
sbi
@FredOverflow That depends on you.
 
@sbi It's all your fault!
Silly amnesic ape.
 
sbi
Oh, did I introduce you to Low?
One of my better moves, that. :)
 
@sbi Would it be possible to meet early next year, when the semester is over? Like beginning of February? Or would that be too late?
 
sbi
@FredOverflow You mean meet me or meet the company? If the latter, I am sure you'd be able to find a day to come for an interview in late December.
 
7:20 PM
Sure I would!
 
sbi
See. Why don't you apply right away? :)
 
Because I like to sleep over such decisions. Although that's silly, it's not like an interview is a wedding contract :)
 
user1804599
Unless it is.
 
@sbi I have to agree :)
 
I'm pretty sure sbi doesn't want to marry me.
 
7:21 PM
Btw, you should keep the third Tuesday of November free.
 
Why? Cocktail party at your house?
 
wink wink starboard.
 
sbi
@FredOverflow Fine by me. They only spilled the beans yesterday, so nobody would be surprised to not to have applications trickel in next week.
 
What exactly is it your company does? Can you give me a website?
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes That would be 21st? Damn, that looks really bad on my schedule.
 
7:23 PM
@sbi That's a Thursday.
19th.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hm, Wednesday is my long C++ day at the University (7.5 hours), so I doubt I'll be in Berlin on Tuesday :)
 
sbi
Oops, I misread. Well, on the evening of the 19th, I will presumably have a beer with Scott (that is: I will drink beer, he'll stick to coke) and talk about the nine days of seminar me and my cow-worker will have had with him by then.
 
omg the Scott? The embedded C++ seminar? Awesome.
 
@FredOverflow Oh. I was talking to sbi.
 
Well, it's a good thing I don't have time then :)
 
sbi
7:25 PM
We'll go to Stuttgart on Nov, 11th, and have three two-day seminars with him.
 
@sbi :S Your loss?
 
Wait, there are enough C++ nerds in Berlin that they founded a user group? Cool. I don't think Hamburg has that. Let me check...
 
@FredOverflow I think it does.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm really sorry, but unless Scott reschedules our evening together (he could, there's be a weekend in between), I won't be here before Wednesday that week.
 
sbi
7:27 PM
@FredOverflow I can, but I won't do in public. (You do know I'm a little paranoid about my privacy. Sorry.)
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes I meant to ask you about that anyway. How did this happen?
 
@sbi Just... totally out of the blue.
 
i would give literally anything to make out w/ myself, that would be so cool
 
sbi
7:28 PM
@FredOverflow The one time I have been there, there were about a dozen nerds.
 
I can meet a dozen C++ nerds in my hometown? Why didn't anybody tell me this? :)
 
I haven't been to one of those things in months.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, but did they ask you? Did you talk to them and they realized you know that stuff? Did they approach you because they know you from the web?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ooh, the Berlin group does their meetings at the cbase?
That's basically right next to the Games Academy
 
@sbi One of the organisers e-mailed me about it. He got me from the web.
 
sbi
7:30 PM
@FredOverflow You should be on Twitter. That guy keeps tweeting about this. (He's also the one who does that Meeting C++ conference.)
 
> I'd like to hear more talks about technical challenges that arose from practical problems and less presentations of random APIs. Good programming techniques like your thoughts about the Rule of Zero are also very interesting to discuss and might even be new to some members.
This is what he said.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Was that Jens or someone local to Berlin? And how did they know you're in Berlin?
 
Xeo
@sbi Probably his SO profile
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes That sounds like a good approach. People pitching their own APIs (or APIs they're using a lot) are pretty common.
 
@sbi I can't believe there's a job offering at a company that does something I'm actually passionate about. I have practically no interest besides programming and Chernobyl :)
 
sbi
7:34 PM
@Xeo Yeah, probably. But then, looking whether some random dude with a Portuguese name writing in English lives in Berlin isn't usually the first thing that occurs to people.
 
@sbi Some Sebastian Theophil. He saw me on the members list in the meetup group they setup.
@sbi My current boss did that!
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah, this guy. I once blew an interview with his company. :)
 
@sbi What does blowing an interview mean? You didn't get the job, or you didn't want the job?
 
Your fault or their fault?
 
sbi
@FredOverflow Yeah, I do like that I finally ended up in a company that does something I actually feel good about doing.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Mine.
 
7:36 PM
Also, oops, my ex-roommate invited me to his flatwarming party, which is today 30 minutes ago.
Gotta go. Bye.
 
Don't worry, you're expected to be late to parties.
 
sbi
Hey, the robot is going social!
 
Xeo
He's bad with times, though.
2 days ago, by Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes You gotta fix your memory module, man.
 
sbi
@FredOverflow They sent me a test. I was away for vacation at my mother in law that week. I was a bit sick and tired. I was distracted by a family on vacation. I still agreed to try to code up something. I wasn't convincing.
Oh, BTW, can some of you room owners please pin this for a few days?
 
@sbi That's not news :<
 
sbi
7:40 PM
Hey, why don't you guys have a newbie message anymore?! We've been posting these for probably three years! Has that damn cat no respect at all for traditions?
@ScottW Because I'm never here?
Thanks for pinning, whoever did it!
@ScottW I'm not whining, I am steaming.
 
@sbi It seems I have to apply with a Gehaltsvorstellung. I have no idea about what's realistic or normal :-/ Oh well, I'll just talk with some buddies.
 
hmmm, next Saturday it will be one year since I moved to Berlin.
 
sbi
@FredOverflow I think I could give you a few hints about that. :)
 
awesome :)
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wow, already?! I'll be baking Stollen next Saturday, otherwise I'd accept your invitation. :)
 
7:48 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes time flies...
 
I should do something.
 
@sbi What's the closest Bahnhof to the company?
 
@Griwes that was useful
 
sbi
@FredOverflow Germany-wide? Berlin Hauptbahnhof. S-Bahn? Adlershof.
 
Wait, Hamburg<->Berlin isn't even two hours? I thought it was twice as much. Awesome :) I could even work in Berlin during the week and visit friends in Hamburg during the weekend :)
 
7:50 PM
lol
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Do it on Saturday, and I'm with you.
 
Dec 21 '12 at 11:18, by FredOverflow
@sehe I also like to play Hearts and Solitaire.
 
sbi
@sehe ROTFL!
@FredOverflow What about your girlfriend? Is she history already?
 
@sehe I haven't played any games in quite a while :)
@sbi Wow, you have a good memory. Nope, she's not history.
 
@FredOverflow Maybe you should try left-handed, with purposely added thunderbird popups and a crying kid next door?
 
sbi
7:52 PM
@ScottW I was thinking the same.
 
@sehe The fuck. I should remove my brain and insert yours into my skull.
 
@ScottW I do have a bad memory for random details. But some random details are not so random according to my brain. I don't think I'll ever know what makes the difference
 
sbi
@FredOverflow But you're not bound to Hamburg anyway? And you don't even mention visiting her. So she's not living in Hamburg, huh?
 
Great. Now everyone has a good memory
 
7:53 PM
@sbi I don't want to write too much about my private life in a public chat, sorry. I think you'll understand ;)
 
sbi
@FredOverflow Nope. :-D
@sehe It's not the finding that is amazing, but that you remember that this was said, and thus should be findable.
 
Speaking of which, Claudia finished Small Gods and now calls me Brutha too :S
 
Jul 9 '12 at 22:04, by FredOverflow
Enough procrastination, it's time for Solitaire!
@sehe lol
 
:/ I have no life. And I like C++. What can I say
@FredOverflow lolzing
 
What is the proper way to capture this?
 
sbi
7:55 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Aptly named! :) (Is she the one I met in that bookshop or someone else?)
 
level.setOnEat([this] (const Snake & snake) {scoreText.setString(toString<int>(snake.getLength()));});
UB?
 
@Pawnguy7 Not unless the lambda outlives the object instance. Also be very wary about mutable lambdas in concurrent context
 
Yes. I borrowed the book from you for her.
 
@Pawnguy7 This will just capture the pointer, not the object, right?
 
Not in this case, no.
@FredOverflow that was my thought, but it compiled, so I really have no idea.
 
sbi
7:56 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, that is my book? Damn boy! I want that back!
 
Never trust the C++ compiler to catch UB for you!
 
@FredOverflow You'd need shared_from_this in such cases (Boost Asio favours that)
@Pawnguy7 There's no contradiction. It captures just the pointer, so it should compile
 
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A: Using member variable in lambda capture list inside a member function

XeoI believe VS2010 to be right this time, and I'd check if I had the standard handy, but currently I don't. Now, it's exactly like the error message says: You can't capture stuff outside of the enclosing scope of the lambda. grid is not in the enclosing scope, but this is (every access to grid act...

Did I not follow it correctly?
 
sbi
@Pawnguy7 You might want to tell us what prompts you to think this is in error. All we know so far is that it compiles.
 
It does compile.
 
7:58 PM
@sbi sure, maybe Saturday I'll give it back ;)
You will probably have forgotten again by then
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'll be in Prenzlberg baking (and drinking beer) with an old friend all day. You'd certainly be invited to come around for a while and share a beer with us.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Pretty close.
 
oopps Ronald
Baking those delicious Christmas cakes?
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'd rather call them breads, but, yeah, that's what we'll do.
 
8:02 PM
Yahama
 
I was confused there.
 
You can't call them anything if you have a mouth full of them
 
sbi
I can.
 
@Pawnguy7 Me too. Obviously.
 
sbi
> I'm still confused, but on a higher level.
 
8:06 PM
hola
 
sbi
Is there a language this dog does not know enough about to bark a few words in?
 
Klingon
 
lol, I just googled for other C++ jobs and found this:
> Strebst Du nach struktureller Schönheit und Eleganz, wenn es um Programmierung geht? Bezweifelst Du die Nützlichkeit eines Schlipses bei der Softwareentwicklung? Bist Du fit in C++? Falls ja, würden wir Dich gerne kennenlernen.
(Do you doubt the usefulness of a tie in software development?)
 
Schlipse = tie ?
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yep.
> All a tie does to an engineer is hinder the flow of blood to his brain.
 
8:09 PM
LOL
 
uninitialised pointer
 
Probably.
 
that's what 0xCCCCCCCC means IIRC
 
It only happens in the lambda, though.
 
sbi
8:11 PM
Isn't that a VS error message? Why the hell don't you just break at that point and look at the damn stack?
 
@TemplateRex li
 
To find what?
 
sbi
To find what's wrong.
 
which pointer is bad
 
Well, the Snake is valid.
 
8:13 PM
17 mins ago, by sehe
@Pawnguy7 Not unless the lambda outlives the object instance. Also be very wary about mutable lambdas in concurrent context
 
sbi
Hey, robot, aren't you supposed to be socializing tonight? What are you still haring out here for?
 
oh ffs. The U6 is broken outside the ring too
 
sbi
So fix it.
 
The this in this case lives longer than the lambda.
 
@sbi I'm on my way to the party.
 
sbi
8:16 PM
Oh FFS, why don't you just brake into the debugger and look which pointer is pointing to a deleted object?!
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah, you're mobile. That explains the unlinked references.
 
The party is probably going to be boring, and he'll stay with us all night.
 
The text's font has that address.
 
I should have looked up a better route.
 
sbi
@FredOverflow Not with me. I'm outta here now! (Feel free to mail me if you have further questions.)
 
Bye! I'll let you know what I decide about Saturday.
 
sbi
8:18 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ok.
 
@sbi thx
 
sbi
Bye!
 
oh I use Öffi but this one looked easy: just take the U6 until the right stop. I was just unaware that meant taking three different trains.
 
U6 is a train? Wow. Our Us only go to 4.
 
I have no idea what I am doing :\
 
8:21 PM
Here they go up to 9
 
(well there's a U55 but that's a temporary designation
 
@sbi Braking into the debugger. I like that analogy. It does take the pace out of it, doesn't it.
 
That U55 is actually the reason the U6 line is all fucked up.
 
In dutch, I like to call breakpoints "braakpunten" (puking points)
> "Öffi" - lol
 
8:25 PM
what's funny?
 
On second thought.
The object does get copied.
Might that be the issue?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I take it it's an abbrev. for public transport? It sounds like a nickname (a cute one)
Sure, since I'm bored and in a good mood ;-) But for future reference, it would be better if you first tried to take the advice and then ask more questions. That'll be better received on SO in general. — ksimons 47 mins ago
^ our Qt guy got a nice answer
 
you gotta hand it to Bjarne, apart from all the stuff he does on the Standard, he also has time to handle Phd students and produce papers like this:
oops, old link, I meant this one:
 
On an unrelated note; how do you disable firefox's useless built in js pdf viewer? (apparently it is once again about:config to the rescue)
 
@sehe Proposal Video 39k views, 395 replies on the BlenderNation post, 298 replies on his own website, and also quite a few posts on BlenderArtists forums. He started a storm
 
8:44 PM
Ahah.
@ScottW want to know what it was?
 
@Borgleader I assumed he was asked to start that storm, right?
 
Hmm?
 
I assumed he was tasked to come up with all this high-quality propaganda so it would become a clear "vision" and something people might get enthusiastic about, instead of just vaguely muttering things like "blender UI is a mess, we should improve it" without making "improve" concrete
 
That's possible, but I don't think he's mentioned anything about that.
 
I'm sure he didn't in any footage I've seen. It's just my assumption. With all the quality he's shown, and the well planned media campaign, I can hardly imagine anything else would be the case
 
8:55 PM
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A: What is the (craziest, stupidest, silliest) thing a client/boss asked you to do?

jessegavinMy brother and I were working on a multimedia heavy-website for a very famous rock star many years ago. When the client saw the site he noticed some compression artifacts on some of the JPEGs and asked what was wrong with them. We explained that images need compression for bandwidth purposes an...

hilarious
 
nice
"Google is simply a search box with a second page of results. And those results are from other sites!"
 
user1804599
I wonder if there would be any performance benefits in using quantum teleportation to have a CPU and RAM communicate.
 
@TemplateRex "Make the commas more commary."
 
yeay, weep and wipe those tears
 
user1804599
9:06 PM
Did you work for Oracle? — Sergio Acosta Sep 13 '10 at 22:55
 
user1804599
I love this one.
 
@Rapptz wut? are you in a bad breakup now? lolz
 
@TemplateRex He has a new gf that is monitoring his browsing.
 
9:26 PM
Is it me, or is that more of google's fault?
 
-1
Q: Changing the reading level of a paragraph or text via program

CS_STEMIs there a way for a program of any type to re-arange and simplify text according to a specified level of reading? Any language preferably batch html c#/c++

^ has to be the worst today
John. It really was him. Trust me, if I wanted to dress fancy or play the electric guitar like a wizard, he would be the first person I would go to. But not for web design best practices. — jessegavin Nov 19 '10 at 2:16
@Rapptz wow
@TemplateRex Hah. Just followed that. I remember finding code that used a prototype library solution (macro hell). For my answer I refactored it using just Boost Variant and lambdas:
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A: Too many sections, assembler error, using boost::spirit

seheI've done some hacking here and refactored things a to show the non-runtime-polymorphic style: https://bitbucket.org/sehe/joos2compiler-refactor (based on your 12d01e5 commit). I hope it doesn't increase compile times :) (I haven't actually gotten around to splitting the grammar up, but it g...

^ (well, make_visitor(Fs...x) is kinda nifty) - no more macros, far shorter code on many of the type-switches...
Ah, here it says what was used:
> Open Type Switching, for tree processing;
* https://parasol.tamu.edu/~yuriys/pm/
* http://www.stroustrup.com/OOPSLA-typeswitch-draft.pdf
So it was indeed the same thing. I've seen that OOPSLA paper looong time ago, though, IIRC
 
user1804599
 
@sehe I remember that paper too
 
[tag:sehe-so-chatterbox] a.k.a. [tag:loungec++-so-dead]



q.e.d.
 
user1804599
9:41 PM
@sehe Speaking of quantum electrodynamics, I really need a quantum computer.
 
marktplaats.nl
 
user1804599
Guess I’ll have to wait ten years.
 
Moore's Law doesn't predict innovation horizons
 
I can't wait to see how much/if graphene will affect cpu performance
 
9:47 PM
@sehe as I understand it, it was not supposed to be a prediction, just an observation with a suggestion that perhaps the observed trend would continue.
 
user1804599
> prediction
 
user1804599
> observation
 
user1804599
All those puns.
 
o_0
 
0_o
 
9:47 PM
@TonyTheLion It went south.
 
user1804599
@sehe rightfold’s law: as long as you can use JavaScript to program it, it’ll become pretty popular pretty quickly.
 
That's Attwood's Corollary, really
 
user1804599
No!
 
user1804599
Atwood says that everything that can be written in JavaScript will eventually be written in JavaScript.
 
@DeadMG That's good, right?
 
9:51 PM
@not-rightfold Well I use Gnome 3, so I'm halfway there already.
 
5 hours ago, by Pawnguy7
Why is it bad to go south?
 
user1804599
> GNOME
 
user1804599
-1 not enough i3
 
user1804599
What the fuck does it mean to go south? In my country it means going to Belgium.
 
@TonyTheLion No.
going south = going bad.
 
9:52 PM
:(
 
@not-rightfold Pretty accurate
 
@not-rightfold Only given infinite time and at least one JavaScript programmer for the duration of that infinite time.
 
@sehe ... that's where the French come from
 
@not-rightfold It is the exact same direction as pear shaped.
 

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