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9:00 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Because it's non-conformant in the area of generating special members?
 
It warns if you have a class with a unique_ptr. Or if you have an explicit move ctor.
It's ridiculous.
 
I never had that warning
 
I think my coworker is using the 2013 RC.
 
maybe he has /W4
that shit produces some ridiculous warnings.
 
/WorldWar4
Suddenly, a wild Barkek
@BartekBanachewicz sorry, you've been replaced by a much improved Polish guy
7
 
9:04 AM
@sehe what
 
Similar name, even a vanity avatar :/
 
@sehe lmao
 
@BartekBanachewicz But kidding aside, how's life
 
@sehe Bartek is a diminutive of Bartosz
 
@BartekBanachewicz busy these days? I barely see you.
 
9:06 AM
hmm
 
@sehe we finally got to go to my GFs old house and steal borrow some things from there, like a washing machine
 
the thing about Domperidone is that it says I should take it with water 15-30 minutes before a meal
whereas I simply don't really eat meals anymore.
 
you could say we're investing in technology here.
That's why I wasn't there much during the weekend, we've been moving stuff around and cleaning it
and now we have this too <3:
the freaking ultimate weapon of kitchen destruction
 
@BartekBanachewicz ikr
 
@sehe oic.
in other news I'm buying a motorbike next season
 
9:09 AM
@DeadMG maybe you can call the thing you do eat a meal for the purpose of this experiment and see whether it allows you to eat it uni-directionally?
@BartekBanachewicz Whoa. Okay. Well, nice to have known you. Do you have a will :/
 
@DeadMG so what do you eat?
 
Soup.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Well, either nothing, or the odd grape/slice of cheese from time to time.
 
I want something like this
it's 50cm^3 :P
 
I take it you have a motor license
 
9:11 AM
don't need one for such a small engine
I want to try this whole getting to work by that thing and see if it works for me
 
What country is this? Banana republic? (honestly, I don't know much about this, but it sure looks like something that requires a motorist license here)
 
I'm tired by taking buses stuck in traffic where I could take 1/3 of that time to get to work/back home.
@sehe that's the point of looks, innit? :)
 
In slightly unrelated news, 667 days since Bartosz Milewski said something to a lounger on SO
 
wat.
that's Windows 3.1
 
@BartekBanachewicz That needs a license in Portugal.
 
9:14 AM
@BartekBanachewicz You fail too
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes in here you just need an ID (i.e. be of age). funny thing is, they've changed it recently, but since I was 18 already when that changed, I keep the right to ride it.
 
Though on the flip side, I never rode a motorbike and my car driving license allows me to ride a motorbike of up to 125cc.
Totally stupid.
 
125 is kinda big already.
 
Yeah, that's... like when your driver's license allowed you to play with knives :/
 
I mean, 50cc with all the dumb locks can het ~3.5HP. Tuned up a bit (replaced piston) to get 80ccm and the power doubles
 
9:16 AM
It's up to 50cc in the beginning, but at 25 years old it upgrades to 125cc. Go figure.
It's like some sort of game.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'm not an authority on things that involve "looks". I don't care. Sorry.
 
@sehe IOW, this is not something that's much more dangerous than a road bike.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I do see how that makes sense, iff you have a lot of road experience as a car-driver by then
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Sure. The game is called "Natural selection" and it's "If you don't die in a crash before 25, you must be at least a tiny bit skilled at driving".
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah. Well. Forget about the will then. It's probably more expensive than the bike
 
9:17 AM
@sehe It's about age, not experience.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes here you can get A2 licence if you're 18 (that's up to 500ccm), and you need to be 24 to get full "A", but if you had A1 (under-18yo) or A2 for 2 years, you can get A by the time you hit 18 :)
 
@DeadMG True that. I've done some... less responsible driving the first years (mainly when going home in the middle of nights on deserted highways.) Only after a few years I've begun realizing that a stray rabbit would seriously ruin my day/life at those speeds.
 
@DeadMG Or, like me, almost never drove at all.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Statistically correlated. I get how the rule appears ludicrous
 
@sehe I am planning to get an used one, and I think I won't spend more than ~700E
 
9:19 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Ah, so the bike will have experience
@wilx Oops. D-d-d-drive by!
 
-1 linkdumping
 
@sehe Wait what will the will have then?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Perhaps it's just a statistical fact that people over 25 have less accidents, even if they have the same or less experience.
 
@DeadMG That's the part that I implied "makes sense". That's entirely subjective and unfounded.
 
oh also only 2 people (counting me) noticed the pun in @Potatoswatter's joke? come on :F
 
9:21 AM
@BartekBanachewicz So, am I the other one?
 
@sehe Well, it wouldn't be subjective and unfounded if you're a government scientist who did a study on it and found that.
 
@sehe welp, obviously.
 
:)
@DeadMG ikr. But I'm not. Unless I'm ill-informed (which would make me a sloppy government scientist. Oh, wait)
 
me neither.
 
9:22 AM
I know it's a fact that drivers are terrible.
 
I think that age matters mostly on the reason you get a bike. I mean, I really need something to get to work faster, and the show-off factor is a bit less pronounced.
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's okay to show off that you go to work
 
@sehe considering the amount of nonsense I have to deal with on the uni, that's something worth showing off.
 
How is work even related to going to work :/
 
9:41 AM
@sehe they have a relation in time and space
 
I can't answer anything these days. :(
 
tried to build MS' casablanca/REST SDK with VS2013... fatal error C1189: #error : This file must not be included for Visual Studio 12 or later
 
@StackedCrooked fafir enough
@BartekBanachewicz Damn, s/work e/uni e/
 
speaking of which, I should get up soon and head to classes
 
@sehe s/af/a
 
9:52 AM
@BartekBanachewicz ooooor, stay in bed and head to class
 
@BartekBanachewicz lol, 'vanity avatar' /cc @sehe
 
@thecoshman ooooor.... stay in bed and head to pillow.
 
stay in bed? I'm about to go to bed.
but then, I was up all night sick
 
10:11 AM
@DeadMG oh pish posh, stop complaining
 
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My shirt has been in the sorting facility since September 22.
 
Bubble sort?
 
@not-rightfold Your shirt is not important enough. :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes from the Power Puff Sort library?
 
@BartekBanachewicz wtf is that?
 
10:24 AM
@Ell just because it's not introducing anything new into my app, which is just a C port anyways
the C was real clean and fit perfectly to objects
 
10:38 AM
@sehe lol
&hello all ;0
 
@melak47 VS12 already has MS REST SDK, IIRC
 
TIL about Shabbat elevators.
 
@Abyx yeah 2013 comes with a version of it too. I just figured I'd try the newer one form the web first, but noo ._.
 
well, all that REST stuff is sorta useless IMO
 
What does it do?
 
10:48 AM
@Abyx not if you wanna use some stupid REST api for some silly website/service :D
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes stateless access to "resources" via HTTP, CRUD-like
 
Wait, when people talk about REST SDKs or REST frameworks or REST whatever-the-fuck, they actually just mean "HTTP client/server"?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yep
 
:D
 
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10:50 AM
The only tool you need to make REST APIs is a router that is capable of routing based on HTTP method and URL.
 
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The only tool you need to consume REST APIs is an HTTP request tool that is capable of you selecting the HTTP method and the URL.
 
WTF!? postimg.org/image/lser58dz5 How is that possible :|||||||||||
 
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Impurity.
 
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@FredOverflow lol
 
11:15 AM
@BartoszKP Is that Java?
Morning.
 
@BartoszKP Deferred execution needs not be idempotent!
Make it result = result.ToList() first
@Jefffrey lol... :(
 
@Cat loves REST SDK's because he feels like its a snooze.
 
IMPOSSIBRU
 
System.xyz is always a good sentinel of Java code.
 
A goo sentinel indeed
 
11:18 AM
:(
 
@CatPlusPlus What is best about REST SDK? I might use it (if it's somewhat usable on linux, because I might look at partially porting to MacOS myself iffff the features are really compelling
 
@Jefffrey C#
 
Your enumerable changes state after iteration - you should make it eager instead of lazy (default)
 
@sehe I know that, I was astonished because it was a simple List<> with one Where
@sehe But you won the prize, condition in where was dependent on an external state (though it shouldn't have) : )
 
@BartoszKP Then the predicate changes state. I'm astonished too, because that implies bad/sloppy programming :/
@BartoszKP "shouldn't have" -> programmer error
 
11:22 AM
@sehe yes, I made something that's a bit too complicated ;| and doesn't have to
 
That's the main problem is LINQ. It's easy to get in non-evident situations.
LINQ is a marvelous tool, but unlike C++, if you operate it wrongly it won't blow your foot of, it will silently start World War 5
Oh. I love Linq. (Thought I'd mention)
Reminds me a bit of this:
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A: Why anonymous methods inside structs can not access instance members of 'this'

seheVariables are captured by reference (even if they were actually value-types; boxing is done then). However, this in a ValueType (struct) cannot be boxed, and hence you cannot capture it. Eric Lippert has a nice article on the surprises of capturing ValueTypes. Let me find the link The Truth A...

@not-rightfold dat tweet... :{}
And the reponse: i.imgur.com/fn4V0wO.gif (yup a gif, awesome)
 
Yes, it's unfortunately a very common mistake to write something that constructs a lazy LINQ using a loop variable that is a reference
 
@BartoszKP Regardless of impurity, there's the intransparent performance implications. O(n*m*o*p*q*r) out-of-sight, much longer-lived GC heap references than apparent etc. (not to mention ooooooodles of tiny helper instances for each lazy extension/lambda)
Did I mention I still LOVE Linq. In the hands of wise programmers?
 
According to this fortune teller I will die before feb next year ... or 50% chance that I will
 
@sehe Yes, it's a great productivity improvement when you need to do something of minor importance in terms of performance, and don't need to be bothered with details
 
11:33 AM
My mum actually believes it
 
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@sehe their one?
 
@BartoszKP Even if you need performance, it's till a great tool. But know thy limitations.
@Telkitty猫咪咪 She probably has reason to
 
user1804599
Use LINQ wherever possible.
 
@sehe I am sure most people who believe in fortune tellers have reason to
 
user1804599
LINQ, covariant generics and contravariant generics are C#’s only good features.
 
11:38 AM
if fortune tellers are so accurate we would not need detectives any more.
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪: You would, for proof.
 
yeah I have heard stories in which people who believed in fortune tellers and blamed crimes on people who did not commit them
 
I've heard stories. Well, then. There's your mistake
 
what mistake?
 
...
 
11:44 AM
I rather believe a fortune teller who tells me that I will die
like ... who wouldn't?
 
You should. Because it's true
 
Says who?
 
@sehe add TPL to this
 
I also almost believe in that earth is an alien test ground
 
@sehe What REST SDK
 
11:48 AM
@CatPlusPlus I presume Casablanca (look for the context)
 
I have no idea what the hell is that
 
@BartoszKP Please reply to specific messages (have you seen the newbie-hints?)
For the first time in ~20 years I've actually encountered a memory error with Memtest86. Yay. I guess
 
@sehe right, sorry. I meant that list of good features of C# should include TPL :)
 
32 mins ago, by Tony The Lion
@Cat loves REST SDK's because he feels like its a snooze.
^ that's probably just a lame joke then
@TonyTheLion darn, you bastard
 
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I want geysers, waterfalls and lianas in my workplace.
 
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11:52 AM
And grass and trees.
 
@sehe That took a while
 
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@sehe RAM corrupt?
 
@not-rightfold It's a real RAM - random standing for that it doesn't matter what you write, you can read anything
 
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Huh?
 
@sehe thats a fucking huge screen.
 
11:57 AM
22 or something
 
@not-rightfold corrupt RAM is something that should be called a real RAM - you read random ; )
 
@GamesBrainiac How do you know? There's no reference in the picture.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes the little energy star logo
 
The best thing about being a programmer with jet lag is that now you have two reasons to hate time zones.
@GamesBrainiac I believe it's 23"
@not-rightfold old PC inherited from sister, yes
 
@sehe kitty was close.
 
Xeo
11:59 AM
I'd have guessed 24"
 
@TonyTheLion You spiteful little prick :)
 
@Xeo Possible too, TBH. Did I mention I'm not strong on visuals. And I don't care much for looks? I could prove it by posting a selfsnap right now, but I don't want to traumatize any minors
 
C, E flat and G walk into a bar. The bartender says "No minors!"
 
12:02 PM
(Did I get the characters right?)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It not minor if it's the 2nd of B-flat (or the third of A-flat etc.)
 
> Pretend I'm still awesome
-- @R.MartinhoFernandes
:P
 
@GamesBrainiac Lol. That was an awesome star
 
Hmm, cake.
 
inb4 moist
 
12:04 PM
It actually is quite moist.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Aperture Science.
@sehe Found it
Sep 20 at 13:56, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Sorry. Pretend I'm still awesome.
10 stars actually! :D
 
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lolphp
 
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No errors.
 
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Just a blank page.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Also, lol at "characters"; took me a while to realize that was correct
 
12:07 PM
/~^_^~\
 
@sehe It was a meta-joke :)
 
@not-rightfold Look at the source (<-- this page intentionally left blank -->)
I appreciate it.
Now.
 
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@sehe Apparently I attempted to use a variable that did not exist.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Now grok this: a C and G are a minor too.
 
@GamesBrainiac I sang Still Alive on Friday.
 
12:08 PM
@not-rightfold Woot.
 
(I was drunk)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol I love this line "We do what we must, because we can"
hahahahha
 
@Xeo Anyways, just checked (put on my goggles and leered dangerously close to the equipment),
It's 23" alright. (No, Tony! not that equipment. That doesn't have the dimensions inscribed. Yet)
 
23" would be quite unwieldy.
 
@sehe how come _that_ did not get italicised?
 
12:11 PM
Multiline.
 
@GamesBrainiac Fixed _that_
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Anemic blackout on every erection?
 
I'm done XD
 
12:12 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes lay of the mouth wash man
 
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@sehe It feels like OpenGL.
 
Why? Do you have a bad breath fetish or something?
 
Okay, I'm going in.
If I don't come back, it'll be for the best. My wife will have to only say in what kitchen we'll end up with then.
 
@sehe I suggest you get drunk first... just because
 
@thecoshman Thats etienne's job.
 
@GamesBrainiac what is? being drunk? I didn't realise @EtiennedeMartel was the resident drunk
 
@thecoshman etienne(x: any) = echo "Get drunk, problem solved"
I need to go eat.
 
why are recruiters inherently linked with 'waste of my time' for me? I've not even had any bad experiences with them, yet still I have this association.
 
hey guys
 
¬_¬ especial when the recruiter is using three different names
 
12:18 PM
can you recommend any good series to watch?
i'm bored as hell
 
"The long and the Short No"
 
@GamesBrainiac have you seen "lie to me"?
 
¬_¬ shall I remove the wool?
 
@BartoszKP Nope, looking into it
 
12:21 PM
@GamesBrainiac Most episodes are like instantiations of the same template, but fun to watch
 
@BartoszKP Hmm, I'm really looking for something constructive.
 
@GamesBrainiac "The lost room" maybe then?
 
@BartoszKP thanks, this looks nice ^^
 
The only drawback is that it's quite short : )
 
I see :( Its only a couple of episodes, maybe they'll make a sequel
 
12:24 PM
Fans all over the world are praying for this everyday probably ; P
Another short one, but great is "Jericho" if you like post-apocalyptic scenarios
 
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@GamesBrainiac My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
 
fuck you
 
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:(
 
: D
 
user1804599
sir plz be Nice
 
12:26 PM
@not-rightfold awww
 
user1804599
I want to use C++.
 
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Fucking PHP.
 
make a cross-compiler ;0000
 
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Hop-Hip
 
Hi, is here someone who is familiar with OAuth 1.0?
 
12:32 PM
@Sunrise Yea, I am.
 
Could you see this question on SO, coz I have no idea what's wrong in that code stackoverflow.com/questions/19358388/…
 
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> asked 1 hour ago
 
user1804599
Well, one thing that is wrong with the code is that you are assigning a string literal to a char*.
 
Frankly speaking, i don't have this line of code in my project. I am creating char array and copy from C++ string to this char array and then use it (i wrote it just for simplicity), but why assigning a string literal to a char * is wrong?
 
@Sunrise Why are you using char* in the first place?
 
12:45 PM
Because then libcurl take it as function argument
 
user1804599
@Sunrise Because string literals contain char consts, not chars.
 
user1804599
You can use string.c_str().
 
^
Even in C11, the result of the != and ! operator has type int, not boolean. — interjay 58 mins ago
 
@not-rightfold I know about string.c_str()
 
Does "C11" exists?
 
12:48 PM
@Jefffrey depends on how you define "exist" - it is a standard
 
To be or to exist, that is the question
 
whether compilers have it implemented is another question, and whether developers actually use it yet a different one
 
:/
Ok, Mr. -pedantic.
5
 
:P
looks promising for the implementation question
 
Xeo
12:52 PM
Not like there was much to implement. Especially if you already have a C++11 implementation to piggy-back on (static_assert, alignas, alignof, noreturn, atomic stuff)
 
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1:03 PM
I need fix in JavaScript.
 
Xeo
function fix(f){
  return function(args...){ f(fix(f), args...); };
}
? :P
(nevermind the syntax errors)
 
I should become a chimney sweeper or sth like that. That functional stuff is blowing my mind :(
 
Xeo
let x = f x in x
 
@not-rightfold You can use toString to get the source of the function and eval to redefine it.
 
@Xeo Is that heart symbol part of the syntax? :)
 
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1:16 PM
@StackedCrooked So?
 
Xeo
I wonder if it looks different if codified.
- ♥
 
@not-rightfold So you can fix it.
 
Xeo
yep
 
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@Xeo I ended up with this:
 
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var y = function(g) {
    return (function(f) {
        return f(f);
    })(function(f) {
        return g(function(x) {
            return f(f)(x);
        });
    });
};
 
Xeo
1:17 PM
wtf
 
user1804599
args... works only in CoffeeScript. :(
 
user1804599
Luckily my function is nullary. :D
 
Xeo
That looks horrible
 
Guys, I have a headache. I think I'm going to bed an learn Python.
 
Xeo
It also looks redundant somehow
 
1:19 PM
@FredOverflow Python and bed in one sentence make things ... ambiguous ;0
2
 
@not-rightfold Erm, no you don't?
 
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I first tried to transliterate λf.(λx.f (x x)) (λx.f (x x)) but I got infinite recursion error. :v
 
In JavaScript a function can call itself without a name.
Or you can actually just name it.
@not-rightfold ideone.com/ctvFTC
 
Hello.
 
Xeo
@not-rightfold Hm, the let-form is really neat compared to that.
 
1:35 PM
so yeah... toe seems to be getting more tender again... must be filling up with puss again :(
 
Xeo
> The standard already permits heap allocation to be promoted to stack or static storage under N3664 [...]
Interesting.
 
@not-rightfold So, do you have any ideas why my signature is bad?
 
@Xeo :| at the proposal.
 
@Xeo I love that too.
 
1:50 PM
I don't think my laptop's disk is in very good shape.
 
someone give me direction in life
 

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