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Ell
10:00 PM
@Takarakaka Ahh oh god oh god oh god. Quickly tell us quickly quickly!
 
@Takarakaka The answer is ALWAYS 42
 
Ell
There isn't much time :(
 
Ell
@Takarakaka What are you waiting for?
 
just 20 GBP? wow
 
Ell
10:01 PM
i have c++ primer 4 I tihnk
 
5 came out this month.
 
Ell
yes by stanley b lippman, josee lajoie and barbara e.moo
 
@Takarakaka it's silly and isn't even a joke!
 
Ell
hehe "moo"
 
@Ell e.moo, even
 
Ell
10:02 PM
I said e.moo first time :L
 
@Ell what?
 
wait, I am in stealth mode from my teacher
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can't text you now
 
bwahahaha
 
sbi
@Takarakaka Ha, caught you with your hand in the cookie jar! That's gonna be another complicated assignment due next week. That'll teach you!
 
@Takarakaka Not a good start. Coming into this room and saying, "I need your help urgently" is like asking for your genitals to be cut off with a rusty knife.
 
10:05 PM
OK, first, do this very quickly, write a program that does fibonnacci sequence, I have no ieda what does it mean, so figure it out by yourself.
 
I just inhaled a mouthful of water. First I can't code, now I can't breathe.
 
sbi
@Takarakaka Who are you talking to?
 
@Ell I really couldn't help myself.
 
You are my star, Mooing Duck! :)
 
@Takarakaka What
The
Fuck
 
sbi
10:07 PM
I take it you've never been teaching, @Moo?
 
@MooingDuck You are not a fish. I've tried too, but it doesn't work.
 
@sbi heh, it was calculating factorial, not Fibonacci.
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Damn, I already sent this for processing.
 
@MooingDuck Well played.
 
OMG :(
 
10:09 PM
@Takarakaka see, this is why you shoudn't take advice from random people in chatrooms. Try a more formal place like stackoverflow.com
 
I will tell him I was thinking in advance and done factorial instead boring Fibonacci
 
@Takarakaka Sent for processing? Are you using punch cards?
 
I'm laughing so hard right now
 
sbi
@MooingDuck I apologize. I should have looked closer.
 
@sbi no, it's fine :D completely understandable.
@Drise me too :D
 
10:10 PM
@MooingDuck I needed th... NO!
 
@Ell Ell, did you not just see what happened here?
 
Bin bin bin
binb
bin
 
Ell
turns out no :L
 
@Ell: Also, unsigned
 
@Ell Now I've gone from
 
10:11 PM
OMG, my teacher asks me what is this?
 
Ell
@MooingDuck actually that isn't my code. I can't write c++ :O
 
Now do it in Lisp!
 
closing now, he is coming to me, for talsk..
 
Ell
nor do I know what the fibonacci sequence looks like
 
to this
 
sbi
10:11 PM
@Takarakaka You will, young man, go to Wikipedia and read about the Fibonacci sequence. Then you will get out your notes about C++. Then you will apply one to the other, thereby learning quite a deal about a lot of topics. Should you get stuck, come here and ask pointed questions about the exact problem you're stuck with. You might end up as the coworker for any of us, after all. And we'd like you to know something about programming by then.
 
hmm, the fibonacci implemetnation on my profile links to 100% unrelated code
 
so apparently math is not a prerequisite for CS nowadays
 
@Drise Join the club. I was raised in good pentecostal/evangelic spirit. So: the full monty, Billy Graham, Toronto Blessing, Revival here, healing services, bible study there, charity so, prayer rounds. I've been there.
 
I'll ahve to fix that. later
 
Complete with multiple years of summer bible camp. To which I brought my cherished 8086/8088 Assembly Language book. You know, to read in the dorm, of course... You see. I wasn't a nerd by destination. I was made into one.
 
10:12 PM
@sehe Lol
 
sbi
I wonder what that teacher will ask @Takarakaka about when we keep pinging him.
 
Who is @Takarakaka ?
 
he left
 
@Ell Why did you do that to me?
 
i m using iphone
turned off everything
 
10:13 PM
Wut.
 
sbi
@Chimera @Takarakaka is the guy who is now interviewed by his teacher because he tried to cheat.
 
Ell
@Drise I... I... I have no excuse :(
 
he got confused and he didn't want to accept my solution :()
 
@sbi I know, I was just pinging him... :-)
 
@Takarakaka well obviously
 
10:14 PM
@Takarakaka Let me help:
 
sbi
@Chimera I know. I was just pinging @Takarakaka, too.
 
He got confuse an no accept my cheats,
 
@sbi LOL... sorry, I'm slow today.
 
Proper english my friend.
 
But teach, Y U NO accept my cheat?
 
10:15 PM
I told him it was improved correction of my way seeing Fibonacci and he just laughed at that.
 
bwahahahahaha
 
WTF
lol
 
Sorry, but I've been away for a bit, but for those who were discussion John Conway's GoL:
 
@Takarakaka Pray for mercy
 
#include<fstream>
#define B(x,y)(b[i+x][j+y]=='X')
int main(int i,char**v){for(int n=0;n<atoi(v[2]);++n){std::ifstream f(v[1]);*v="out.txt";char b[40][83], O[]="...X.....";for(i=0;i<40;++i)f>>b[i];std::ofstream g(*v);g<<b[0]<<'\n';for(i=1;i<39;++i){g<<'.';for(int j=1;j<79;++j){O[2]=b[i][j];g<<O[B(-1,0)+B(1,0)+B(0,-1)+B(0,1)+B(-1,-1)+B(1,1)+B(1,-1)+B(-1,1)];}g<<".\n";}g<<b[0]<<'\n';}}
 
10:15 PM
fibonacci is fibonacci no matter "how you see it"
 
is this code what i need jerry?
 
Ell
@Drise well, you could argue the way you see it is that fib(1) == 10, it could still be a Fibonacci sequence IIRC
 
Seriously @Takarakaka, you'll be better off actually trying to learn the stuff instead of getting others to do the work for you.
 
@Takarakaka Yes, it is.
@JerryCoffin (Say yes.)
 
this is just getting better and better
 
10:17 PM
@Takarakaka I've looked it over, and it does appear to be correct. I would submit it to your teacher.
 
sbi
@Takarakaka None of my students would have gotten away with that. Turning in their assignments took hours, because I grilled every single one of them over their code. After they'd seen this once, only one in 150 ever tried to turn in something they didn't understand.
 
@Takarakaka I haven't followed the whole conversation, but it's an implementation of the Game of Life, anyway, so if that's what you wanted, yes.
 
Ell
@sbi do you still teach?
 
@JerryCoffin Yes, it is an implementation of a fibonacci sequence.
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin Can't you code-format this. I'ts hurting my eyes.
 
10:18 PM
@sbi not: "try" to. Fullblown accomplished cheat. Manipulative too. And mighty annoying. But not completely devoid of humor
 
@Takarakaka I recommend actually learning
 
@Takarakaka Game of Life is just an optimized way to generate fib series.
 
sbi
@Ell Not currently. But I was asked to do it again several times. One day I might do it again. Not now, though.
 
I have submited this, I am a bit ashamed now, sending the same task for second time.
 
OMFG
 
10:19 PM
LOL
 
@sbi It was written as code golf, so everything from int main onward should be a single line. Other than that, the formatting seems to have survived intact.
 
Maybe we are being trolled?
 
@Chimera Failing if so. I'm laughing, not raging.
 
@Chimera I'm pretty sure we're the ones trolling.
 
Heh
 
sbi
10:19 PM
@sehe It would have been an accomplishment if he would have been able to turn this in.
 
@Chimera: nobody could be that good at trolling, nobody
 
He just started laughing, coming to me, closing this
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin It was a feeble attempt at humor.
 
@Takarakaka did your teacher enjoy your second attempt?
 
@sbi As was the code... :-)
 
sbi
10:21 PM
@MooingDuck Learning? What a novel concept!
@JerryCoffin Well, we got that.
 
@sbi ideone.com/WE6WN there /cc @JerryCoffin (also fixed includes and made it -Wall proof in C++11 mode on gcc 4.7)
@Takarakaka Master troll
 
@sehe Code golf without warnings? What's wrong with you? :-)
 
@JerryCoffin Nuttin. Follow the link, it's not a golf so much anymore
 
OK, I have failed, are you all happy now. :(
 
@Takarakaka a little bit yeah :D
 
10:24 PM
All I wanted is to give me a chance and do Fibonacci :(
 
@Takarakaka alright, go ahead and do it then
I fixed my profile, my Fibb implementation link works again
 
With laugh he gave me A. :(
 
@Takarakaka for cheating? poorly?
 
@sehe Yeah, I did. But if you're not doing Golf, go for some speed: ideone.com/xLTat (Windows only and just starts from random input though).
 
if only I cheated, I only wanted your help.
 
10:26 PM
@JerryCoffin There - I further degolfed it for your convenience: ideone.com/WE6WN
 
bad karma is not good for you, you know. :(
 
@Takarakaka nonsense, good humor is essential for a healthy life
 
@JerryCoffin WTF is wrong with a console application not written in POSIX mode?!?!
 
@sehe that's far more obfuscated than mine. Then again, I was going for speed, not golf.
 
:D
@MooingDuck Completely agree. :)
 
10:27 PM
@Takarakaka You tell us?
 
@Takarakaka though if you turned mine in, it'd still be obvious cheating. Mine does some wierd stuff for speed.
 
@sehe Nothing!
 
sbi
@Takarakaka We are indeed. This will give you a chance to repeat and really learn this time. As I said before, you might end up as one of our coworkers, and we'd rather have someone knowledgeable then, instead of a cheater.
 
@sbi I was trolling, didn't you figure it out so far. :D
 
@MooingDuck i didn't do a 'sane' implementation. I degolfed the golf. You know, like decompressing 64kbit/s mp3 still yields crap?
 
sbi
10:28 PM
@Takarakaka Yeah, that's exactly what I'd say if I was in your place right now.
 
@JerryCoffin KILL IT WITH FIRE
 
sbi
 
btw, Jerry, your solution lacks two regex :D
 
6 mins ago, by sehe
@Takarakaka Master troll
See ^
I called it
 
@sehe maybe
 
10:30 PM
:) I am honored with a title. @sehe
 
the only one you'll earn.
today
 
Actually I was promoted to chief of net stuff of my company today. :D
 
You got my credits for creativity. Now work on the execution.
You might get your B.A. in Trolling
 
@Takarakaka "chief of net stuff"
 
@sbi I wish I had a picture, but there are supposedly some signs in Wales that say (In English): "Please slow down, entering town" and (in Welsh): "Sorry, our English to Welsh translator is on vacation this week" (or something similar).
 
10:31 PM
@MooingDuck He's gifted, this one
 
I don't know if you're trolling or not, but I find you vastly amusing
 
sbi
@Takarakaka Yeah, right. Given the maturity you just showed, that is soo likely.
 
@Takarakaka Where do you work?
 
I am only 21. :) I work for Cisco Serbia.
 
Wait until he pulls rank. Plays the 'I earn 20 times your salary!' card.
Though that'd be uncool. And he cares about karma deeply
 
10:32 PM
@Takarakaka What is "chief of net stuff"?
 
director of office of net assesment :)
 
More trolling.
 
...
 
@sehe Actually I am payed 1000 $ a month.
 
People are blind
@Takarakaka In unmarked notes
 
10:34 PM
@sehe Shit! Is that why everything is black?
 
@sehe what do you mean by that?
 
@Chimera No. You're using eclipse. Switch to the enlightenment window manager and things should improve.
Either that or switch to braille display
@Takarakaka Your turn!
 
they are all properly marked. @sehe
 
@MooingDuck Fibinacci?! I didn't know he had a sister!
 
10:36 PM
@sehe Wow! Thanks for the advice!
 
Well, we help each other here in the lounge, don't we?
 
@sehe ..and a pretty cute one at that.
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin Took me a while to dig this out, but here is Chinese Chicken (#404 on the menu):
user image
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@sbi Sounds tasty. I'll take two!
 
sbi
@sehe Wouldn't "Fibinacci" be the child? Fibonacca would be his sister, right? (I'm hazy on Latin and Roman languages in general, so don't pay attention.)
 
10:40 PM
@sehe someday I'll learn to spell
 
@sbi You can get hazy on Latin and Roman languages? Must be nice. Most of us have to pay for alcohol.
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@JerryCoffin Actually, Phoebe Nachee was played by Maggie Henry in Big Time Break (2010):
 
sbi
@Mysticial "Cunt examination"! LOL!
 
Fetal Heart Custody uh?
 
10:42 PM
@JerryCoffin He used a Pinot Blanc with that, earlier tonight
 
too bad I can't read anything beyond very basic Chinese words.
 
@netcoder Fetal != Fatal. a.k.a. phoetal
 
sbi
@sehe That was just half a bottle, though, left over from another day. I just had a bottle of beer, though.
 
@Mysticial So, your cat does the typing in chat, then?
@sbi Uhuh!
 
And I'm not in the mood to draw the characters into a character recognizer.
 
10:43 PM
@sehe Ah, that would help a bit.
 
@sehe: sure, but what exactly is Fetal Heart Custody?
 
@sehe Surely
 
@netcoder Monitoring, is probably what's intended
 
@Mysticial First impression: kanji! Followed by: Hmm, no hiragana in between... Must be Chinese.
 
sbi
@sehe "Uhu" is the German name for Bubo Bubo
 
10:44 PM
@sbi Yeah yeah. Interjections, onomatopeiae... Who's ever going to standardize this mess
 
@netcoder Looking at the comments, it's supposed to be: "Neonatal Cardiac Care"
I could run it through my parents and see what they say it is.
 
well that makes more sense
 
To whom do I owe a thanks for the upvotes?
 
yourself, most likely
 
sbi
@Mysticial I wouldn't want to run a "Neonatal Cardiac Care" right through my parents. They might get damaged.
@Chimera I usually thank the upvoters. YMMV, of course.
 
10:47 PM
@Takarakaka Pro tip: don't start a career robbing banks before visiting this page: wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_it_mean_to_have_unmarked_bills
 
That's the biggest downside of growing up in a country that speaks a different language than your native. You don't completely acquire your native language...
And to make it worse, being in the US means you really only learn one language...
 
@Mysticial Spanish?
 
@sehe Not really. I took 2 years of spanish... Still can't understand it any better than Japanese.
 
In a survery of American adults, 51% believe stormy weather can interfere with cloud computing: http://bit.ly/QUnqP8 via @adam_orbit
 
@sbi I'd like to, but I don't know who upvoted.
 
10:48 PM
^ thanks to sbi
 
@sehe power outages?
 
@Chimera erm... troll detector still down?
 
sbi
@sehe I protest the implication of me being to blame for Merkians being so undereducated!
 
@sehe Apparently, I've got Scottie on it.
 
@sbi That was not my intention. Allthough, it was precisely the point I was making about Spanish being the only language you can learn in the US:
@Mysticial You can't really provide any compelling evidence that proper education in English is in place in the US?
 
sbi
10:51 PM
@sehe erm... troll detector still down?
 
@Mysticial Yeah. In a way, they are right. Chaos theory? Butterfly effect? El Nino?
 
Well I thanked somebody.
 
@sbi Yup. I'm trolling at the top of my lungs, but you missed it
@Chimera Thank god the butterfly
 
@sehe I know, you wouldn't have been able to sleep.
 
@sehe There are people there that can talk it.
 
10:58 PM
@StackedCrooked In fact I know at least a handful.
 
sbi
> Those Pentium-based “developer workstations” with the 15” monitors, the ones you got a great deal on from your Account Manager at Dell? They’re shit; they’re an insult; you might as well give your developers quills and cuffs and an extra lump of coal on Christmas. — Mark Rendle
 
@Chimera That should provide proper evidence, not?
 
@StackedCrooked It wasn't meant to be evidence.
 
But - where's evidence that they do?
I mean, even [president Barack Obama speaks in internet slang and doesn't care for proper capitalization](http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/z1c9z/i_am_barack_obama_president_of_the_united_states/)
 
What's the hell. Obama did an AMA??
 
11:00 PM
Yeah, all Merkans are dumb, ignorant and can't even speak or write English.
 
Damn, I wonder how many views that thread is getting...
 
Something is up with that hyperlink, but I can't quite put my finger on it
 
@sehe He's quite fluent I think.
 
@StackedCrooked Shhhh. I don't know that!
 
hey guise
I r le back
 
11:03 PM
Lol.
 
@DeadMG From 4chan?
 
"I r le back" that's quite the summum of the "le" speak.
 
Houellebecq (FTFH)
 
@sehe food shopping
well, chocolate shopping really
 
@StackedCrooked That translates into English as "I am the ass".
 
11:05 PM
@JerryCoffin It translates into English ... from what?
@JerryCoffin That sucks donkey cock
 
@sehe That's the problem with these universal translator fish -- you never quite know what language something started as.
 
@sehe Internettish
or Internetian
 
@EtiennedeMartel That's a waste of inanimate gif
 
@DeadMG As opposed to cats on the Internet, who speak Interkittish.
 
11:09 PM
Interfetish (fetish, where the subject enjoys interring their partner(s) during or after sexual intercourse)
 
we already have that, it's called "bondage"
 
Huh. The etymology of the words "to inter" and "bondage" strongly suggests their meanings aren't closely tied (pun interred)
First and foremost, there shall not be possibility for inter-ment without terra (earth) ... The same doesn't go for most widely known forms of bondage
 
For the sake of clarity, @sehe, we need citation for this.
 
Actually, _now_ I can sleep. Now that I relocated this. Important. Relevant.
Lo. Behold:
Aug 20 at 14:54, by rubenvb
Thank you Clang. Thank you glass of water. Thank you laptop. Thank you mom.
 
@sehe heh
 
11:22 PM
@Takarakaka Nope we don't because we don't post on wikipedia much. Also, we, our royal highness, are bowing out to make room for the dark trolls of night
 
You are correct. I 'm bowing out now.
 
@Takarakaka Zute alors. I think I just remembered a nice 'counter' from... of all things, the DaVinci Code (Dan B.) :
In London lies a knight a Pope interred
 His labour's fruit a Holy wrath incurred
 You seek the orb that ought be on his tomb
 It speaks of Rosy flesh and seeded womb
 
That's a code.
But I don't think it's from DaVinci.
 
Thing is, I'm not so sure that Alexander Pope is actually interred (in-earthed). More like, en-tombed, IIRC
@Takarakaka Pretty sure it is. Otherwise Bernini mystery.
Anyways, I'll dismiss it as yet another abused historical fact or poetic license by our friend, novelist, Dan.
 
You make me I want to read a books! Stop with it!
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11:26 PM
May 27 at 21:00, by sehe
@Edoardo Wow. Your mother reads a lot :)
Relevant
@Takarakaka Well played. Nice meeting you. See you next time on the muppet show
PS. In answer to this question @Takarakaka:
Apple(int amount, int pHValue) : isAppleOK(false) {
    amount = amount;
    pHValue= pHValue;
}
Obviously, Apple is not ok
 
Hehehe, I ate it before I posted that Q. Hahahahahahaha....
 
alright, is there some trick I can do with defines to use a word "thing", where "thing" has already been defined as some macro, but I need it to not expand?
 
No one knew. :D
 
Droll. Goofy. Slant. Drib!
@MooingDuck Mmm. Remembering something. I guess it was on Stack Overflow
 
I have a feeling those offensive words are meant for me, but unfortunately I can't understand them, so no hard feelings.
OK, I have to go to sleep now. It was very nice speaking to you all here, java gang. See you next time.:)
 
11:33 PM
@MooingDuck You might
 
@MooingDuck If you've defined a function-like macro, you can prevent expansion by surrounding the name with parens. e.g., char c = getchar(); might use a macro version of getchar, but char ch = (getchar)(); won't.
 
#define THING_TEMP THING
#undef THING
#define SOMETHING uses(THING) { /*but doesn't expand */}
#define THING THING_TEMP
^ that's probably bull crap, and it is as gross as it, but hey - you asked @MooingDuck
@JerryCoffin That's what the back of my mind wasn't quite yielding a minute ago. Thx
 
@sehe Surely.
 
:)
 
@JerryCoffin specifically, in certain cases MSVC has #define new DEBUG_NEW
@sehe I'm not certain it's safe to simply undef it
 
11:38 PM
@MooingDuck I doubt it'll work in that case. A function-like macro needs the name followed immediately by an open-paren to be expanded, but this is an object-like macro, so that doesn't apply.
 
@MooingDuck Huh. That's the well-specced part. I'm not so sure the redef is going to do exactly what you want. Most likely, not at all :)
@Takarakaka They were just nice wordnesses. But come to think of it, it was subconsciously an anagram for "a longer bloodshed, firstly".
 
I haven't used C++ in so long I wondered for like 15 minutes why g++ couldn't resolve std::string...
 
#include <string>, perhaps use g++ instead of gcc
 
I wrote #include <string.h>...
 
@netcoder needs to be #include <cstring> anyways, these days
 
11:45 PM
@sehe: yeah I know, but I've been doing C for a few weeks so I got in the habit of including string.h
 
@netcoder keep at it. You'll get back into the groove. The good news is, that there has been a ton of improvement to the language and the standard library
A joy to use (in comparison to C++98 :))
Oh, and compilers actually support templates decently these days. Very important with respect to boost
 
Xeo
@MooingDuck wait, huh?
 
// in windows' afx.h line 1339:
#define DEBUG_NEW new(THIS_FILE, __LINE__)
#define PLACEMENT_NEW ::new
ptr = PLACEMENT_NEW(buffer) obj(params); //seems to work
no wait, I still can't reproduce the problem
 

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