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12:01 AM
Broads? I think popular slang would have it you ate them, rather than drunk drank
Oh, never mind
 
HA! I knew you weren't leaving, so I didn't even bother saying "good night".
 
I left. I just came back on another machine
Hello, by the way :)
 
> rule number one of the internet should be 1) don't let yourself get wound up under any circumstances.
I agree :)
 
6
Q: File with JPG extension acts like a GIF with a cat shooting a gun with heavy kickback

gopi1410I recently came across this image which seems like a normal GIF: Even imgur stores it as a GIF when I uploaded it here. But when I saw the link, it was a JPEG image, unlike a GIF than what I had expected! Here's the link: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/559307_325955130...

Warning, GIFs ahead.
Or JPEGs.
Warning: Something.
 
*le wild cat appears! — gopi1410 4 hours ago
 
12:06 AM
However, the original title ("Can a cat shoot in a jpg image?") was sooooo much better.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Just, a gif. Nothing much. Move along
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes My location doesn't change the name of the day. As far as the time of day, well, here's (honestly) a picture of the clock I have in my office:
 
@JerryCoffin Hehe.
 
@JerryCoffin The spacing of the labels is oddly incongruent
 
@sehe Yes, well, consider what the guy who made it may have been doing at the time, and that makes sense...
 
12:21 AM
It isn't clear from your various prose description what operations are being done on what files. Could you make it, like, exceedingly clear? Use exact names, steps in sequence, POSIX funtion names instead of 'send config parameters to config.txt' (you cannot send text to a file, perhaps to a socket), and what does 'atomic deletion' mean, especially seeing that it takes multiple lines? — sehe 13 secs ago
Well fuck me:
^ He wins the prize. EDIT O, wow! Prime user alert. We got another pime user: user1515739
 
> My code ran over 5 years, 100 machines, and ONLY 1 machine recently got this problem. Please help.
@sehe I get a bad vibe from this.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes From my comment?
I tried very hard to distill the information from that text, but I can't connect the dots. It feels to me like he doesn't actually know what he should be doing, he's tried to come up with atomic rename-into-place and thought it worked, and now it bit him
From his text, I get the impression, he might be doing things in reverse: I'd expect him to write to a .tmp copy, and once everything is flushed & synched, 'atomically' (well, cross fingers for filesystem support and ordering mode) rename it into place.
 
@sehe My impression would be that after the code has worked (seemigly) correctly for so long on so many machines, he's a little too stunned to even be sure where to start or what to think.
 
@JerryCoffin Yeah. Rambling syndrome. "This can't be happening". "Why me". Classic denial :)
 
@sehe No, from the last paragraph in the question.
 
12:29 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Fixed it. Well, the worst part, at least
 
uber
 
? ohai
 
hello
 
How are we this fine evening?
 
12:34 AM
It's 2:34am
 
Ell
evening all
 
@JohnSmith We are coarse and crass (well, some of us are anyway -- others just try to be).
 
Ell
I am hungry and tired and fed up
 
Then you should eat, sleep, and relax
 
12:37 AM
Slight paradox between 'hungry' and 'fed up'
 
Ell
haha oh yes
 
user406009
I know this is the wrong place to ask, but does anyone here know the excel formula to turn anything that is not a zero into a one?
 
Oh, @DeadMG I see you went with [a-zA-Z_][a-zA-Z0-9_]* for identifiers. Gave up on Unicode? What about using <character with the ID_Start property><character with the ID_Continue property>*, as per unicode.org/reports/tr31?
 
@sehe It's the natural result of fasting by eating fast food.
 
@JerryCoffin I'm crass, but not coarse.
 
12:41 AM
@JerryCoffin Infallible
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That was just for Drise.
 
Ell
@ethan I do
 
@DeadMG What?
 
but TBQFH, I'm staying the fuck away from everything Unicode for as long as possible, because it's just nasty shit with shit-poor support libraries.
 
@DeadMG Doesn't he need unicode floating punt numbers :)
 
12:42 AM
lol
 
@EtiennedeMartel I had to use "coarse" as a counterpoint to his "fine" though.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, it would help if you were more specific as to where I used that.
 
@EthanSteinberg Possibly
 
Ell
=if(not(a1==0), 1, 0) or something
 
12:43 AM
oh
I will edit that, sometime
 
I like the idea of just saying "Rules for identifiers are conformant with UAX#31, with the exception of those matching keywords".
 
@Ell Combine it with a nifty bit of 'copy column', 'paste special/value' to get rid of the formulas when you're done transforming /cc @EthanSteinberg
 
@DeadMG Well, I have good news. As of now you can already test for identifierness with my lib :P
 
yay
 
woot
 
user406009
12:45 AM
@Ell Wow, works like a charm. Thank you.
 
oh, I didn't realize that the Unicode Standard actually had a specific identifiery thing in it.
 
@DeadMG Yeah, I only noticed when I went hunting for the meaning of some strangely-named properties ;)
 
Measured in degrees on the Richter scale, the answer is 7.2 for Oneiric Ocelot — sehe 27 secs ago
 
if a question get closed because of being a dupe, how do you propose a move of an answer to the "original" question?
 
@refp Flag for mods and request a merge.
 
12:51 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes will the post still generate rep/tag count?
 
Xeo
@refp rep whore :P
 
It generates even without the merge.
Also, what Xeo said :P
 
@Xeo I sure am! (mostly tag whore now though, I want that fucking golden badge)
 
Do you think it's worth including support for deprecated Unicode properties?
 
@refp Yes, but I'm sure if you don't like the name you're getting called, you can get the moderator to disable that for you...
 
12:52 AM
Some of them were deprecated in 5.0, and we're on 6.1 now.
 
Xeo
The question is, is it worth your time to implement that?
 
@Xeo It's all auto-generated code, costs virtually nothing.
 
Xeo
well, why not then? They're deprecated, but not removed yet, right?
 
#1 fallacy in sofware engineering/complexity - it always costs something
 
12:53 AM
fuck I just wrote some awesome kewd (but in PHP) :(
 
@sehe Yeah, a tiny bit of CPU time.
 
It's is about automation, not magic
 
Xeo
@refp Burn.
 
I would mark it [[deprecated("since 5.0")]] if I could.
 
@JerryCoffin I don't consider myself to be a rep-whore in a negative sense.. please go through all my answers given, if you find any that is a one-liner I .. I.. will cry
 
12:54 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes And barrier to entrance. Look at Boost MSM. There is very little that has overhead. Except, the whole library is too damn complex to use. Same thing with Flyweight, IMO
 
Hey, maybe I should propose that attribute. Shouldn't be hard to spec.
 
Sorry, not really related rant, but ok
 
Ell
I'm gonna learn hello by Lionel richie
 
Who is you're looking for?
 
@sehe But I already have a need for the machinery I'll use. All I have to do add one extra line on the input.
 
12:55 AM
Jul 2 at 21:45, by Cicada
Everytime I read "Hello!" I immediately think of this
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wokay. As long as it doesn't burden the (casual) user...
@R.MartinhoFernandes by the way, Bartosz's latest blog posts looks like it would interest you. Nothing too revolutionary, I think, but a lot of talk about C++ vs. Haskell
 
Xeo
I just didn't like that he didn't use idiomatic functor passing
But I guess he did that to show the mapping from input to output of a function
 
@Xeo Isn't that because he wanted to transparently return capturing lambdas?
 
Xeo
I meant for the input
But man, I want a simple auto return type, same for variables
 
@sehe Yeah, I have them bookmarked, but haven't taken the time to read yet.
 
Ell
hello, is it sehe you're looking for?
 
Xeo
1:00 AM
would make generic code so much easier.
 
Mmm. Me thinking, capturing lambdas could be uncopyable, no?
@Ell unlikely
 
Xeo
I think they're always copyable
 
fuck, stupid bug!
 
@Xeo Spec it.
@sehe Just non-assignable, I think.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes points to improved lambda return type deduction
 
1:00 AM
@Xeo Assuming copyable captures, obviously.
@Xeo That's already spec'ed?
 
Xeo
Ah, value captures, yeah
@R.MartinhoFernandes The new one is, I think, proposed already
 
Oh, then I missed some update. Can you linky it?
 
Xeo
currently searching
 
No, I didn't miss an update. Next update is scheduled for September.
 
1:03 AM
@Xeo Ah, cool.
Anyway, that makes proposing an auto return type much easier, then. What are you waiting for?
 
@refp Hmm...I rather like some of my one-line answers. Oddly, both of my "great answer" badges were one-liners in reply to questions that have since been deleted because they were too much fun...err, because those subjects have since been deemed unworthy.
 
Xeo
And for the parameters, I'd probably formulate it as "unnamed template parameters"
 
@JerryCoffin I don't enjoy having fun, I rather be bored and write tedious answers to trivial questions.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Good question.
 
@refp I'm sorry to hear that.
 
1:06 AM
don't be sorry, I'm a fucking rep-whore.
 
Btw, after spending lots of time actually studying the thing, I think Unicode is quite good, considering that it is basically an attempt at sanity on a domain that is quite close to being the definition of insanity.
 
Xeo
I'm kinda thinking that trailing return type will be kinda useless if we get auto return type
 
@Xeo So? That's great.
 
Xeo
I'm just wandering if any use would be left for it
Oh, yeah, expression SFINAE
 
Still, some people seem to like auto twice(int) -> int.
 
Xeo
1:08 AM
auto f() -> auto
 
Ell
oh the trailing renturn type?
 
@Xeo Now that is silly.
 
Xeo
:D
 
Ha, my lib is already better than ICU at some things. ICU returns empty strings for the Unicode_1_Name property, ogonek returns the actual value.
 
@refp If you don't enjoy having fun, you should be a virgin rep-whore.
 
1:09 AM
(Nevermind that Unicode_1_Name is worthless)
 
Ell
ogonek?
 
My library.
 
Ell
are you wrapping or from scratch?
 
Latter.
Don't question my sanity, please.
 
Xeo
Robots have no sanity
 
Ell
1:10 AM
haha I am not familiar with ICU
 
Xeo
0
Q: Why boost::shared_ptr used gcc inline assembly to increase use_count instead of using operator++?

amazingjxqI'm reading boost:shared_ptr source code and found it using this function to increase shared_ptr's use count(reference count): inline void atomic_increment( int * pw ) { //atomic_exchange_and_add( pw, 1 ); __asm__ ( "lock\n\t" "incl %0": "=m"( *pw ): // outpu...

 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You obviously have no sanity to question.
3
 
@Xeo blank stare
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes "Closed as: no comment"
 
Where is that generic strlen thing?
 
sbi
1:15 AM
@SamDeHaan Not yet. Also: Everyone should be.
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: I've ordered a new topic, but the Times New Courier is running late. [[exit_below]] [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
 
Woah, whatcha doing here at 3?
 
Xeo
Prob going or coming home
 
Yeah precisely. No kids around? :)
 
Oh, wait, vacation.
 
Xeo
Oh, right
 
sbi
1:17 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes You asking me? What are you doing here?
 
I demand you all vote for this, because I need it for a code base and I'm young and naive and hopeful: visualstudio.uservoice.com/forums/121579-visual-studio/…
 
Ell
@rm did you write the full specification before beginning the impl?
 
@sbi The piano man again?
 
@sbi Irrevocably losing hours of sleep?
 
sbi
@sehe No. Unbelieveably as it might be, but my kids are asleep at 3am.
 
1:18 AM
@GManNickG declaration missing a definition, there
 
sbi
@sehe huh?
 
@sbi ow. novel concept
Saying, "Man, what are you doing here".
La di da didi daaa, etc.
 
@GManNickG Dude, wot?
> language-level implementation of C++'s RAII concept
 
@GManNickG Isn't it in Boost 1_50? We don't need to fricking extensions, again, from MS
 
RAII is a language feature, implemented by the language
 
1:20 AM
@sehe C.
 
the rest of your proposal sums up as "Waaaah C sucks", with which I totally agree, but that's the problem of anyone still using C.
 
@DeadMG Destructors are, RAII is a programmer feature.
 
Oh. Ahaha. Nervous fit. Can't you use Boost with C yet?
Meh - whatever
 
@GManNickG The Standard lib, providing all this for us, is part of the language.
 
Let's not get bogged down in semantic details.
 
1:21 AM
it's a bit of a stretch to call RAII not a language feature.
 
What exactly are you trying to gain by this distinction?
 
Ell
the standard lib is part of the language but I would t call that a "language feature" I would call it "provided by the standard lib"
 
what I'm saying is that arguing that RAII is not a language feature is beyond silly. It is exactly as much a language feature as the __scope(exit) feature you propose.
 
@GManNickG It is a core language feature. RAII is deterministic construction/destruction (including semantics under goto, exceptions and other branching constructs). None of that is a library thing
 
and secondly
 
1:23 AM
@DeadMG +1
 
All irrelevant. C doesn't have it.
 
who cares. pedantic much
 
what I'm saying is that if you're using C, you get C. If you don't like it, upgrade.
 
AFAICT it's an existing codebase.
" I need it for a code base "
 
Oh yeah, now I remember why I stopped coming here. See ya!
 
1:24 AM
Later.
:(
 
Ell
also just write your own exit thing
 
Ell
oh in c.
heh :3
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes See. And I am just eating out of a store of sleep overtime. Much better, IYAM.
 
Ell
c++ makes so much sense compared to java. I was writing it earlier and I was just like Woah
 
1:29 AM
@sbi I'm not jealous.
I'm lying.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes I know. (I could be your father, remember?)
 
Xeo
@Ell Well, the world needs bad things. Otherwise, we couldn't appreciate the good things.
 
@Xeo Yeah? Who tested that hypothesis?
 
Xeo
Shaddup, robot.
 
eh, you can see that kind of normalization all over
 
1:31 AM
I'm sure it was some douche that sells bad things for a living.
 
sbi
@sehe Oh. I missed that reference. Sorry. On a side note, you weren't spoiling my night by planting me one of those songs, tonight. I had just spent the better part of an hour by playing someone The Devastations, and nothing can override that guitar.
 
humans adapt rapidly to many, many changes in circumstance
 
Ell
I don't see why rising sea levels are such a problem
 
@DeadMG I don't care. I want that douche shot and skinned.
@Ell More surf spots!
 
lol, what douche?
 
1:32 AM
1 min ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
I'm sure it was some douche that sells bad things for a living.
 
Ell
its not like they will suddenly rise, we will adapt to them as they do, right?
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes One advantage of a human brain is that it doesn't need to be explained the obvious,
 
Ell
just like global warming
actually I suppose animals can't adapt
 
3:33 am, time to head out and buy some smokes..
 
Argh, class Y U KEYWORD?
 
1:34 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm taking it back, I'm starting to like the functional bastard. Writing a small 2D game right now, really has a nice extent.
 
sbi
@Ell Please show me how you will adapt the >150m people of Bangladesh to live below the sea in 100 years.
 
@DomagojPandža Ha!
See, told ya it was neophobia.
@sbi Easy. Shoot them.
 
Ell
they live below sea level now
and the sea won't just pour in one day will it?
 
@Ell Haven't you seen The Day After Tomorrow?
 
sbi
@Ell "...in 100 years..."
 
1:35 AM
It will.
 
sbi
@Ell Yeah, but so far, they managed to keep the sea out. More or less.
 
Ell
so won't they just continue to do that every year?
 
@sbi Mostly "less" as far as I'm aware.
 
sbi
@Ell No. Take two or three. With decades between them,
 
Ell
hmm okay
 
1:37 AM
they basically live on a giant goddamn floodplain.
 
One day a confluence of something something blah blah technobabble blah blah will happen and one gigantic wave will wash across all of New York, and then one hour later everything will freeze.
 
Ell
yeah but farming is cool
until all the saltwater kills the crops
 
sbi
Anyway, I wasn't here to discuss global warming.
 
Start making underwater habitats.
@sbi What were you here to discuss?
Besides my sleep cycle.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nuffink, basically.
 
Ell
1:39 AM
let's have a minute of silence then
 
@sbi That's boring, innit?
 
@sbi You make me globally warm.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes You wish.
@R.MartinhoFernandes There's this rather distant cousin of mine, who showed up at my doorstep with a son of hers. We had a great evening, and taught each it other a lot about uniform and multiform.
I wish you would leave t that way.
 
I'm confused. Leave what?
 
Ell
airport. airport. you got a smiling face.
de de de deeeeee de de de deeee de de de deee
you sit there in your heartache
waiting for some beautiful boy to
save you from your own ways
 
1:49 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Protip: it's a perfect time to drink.
 
Ell
or alternately, to not drink
I'm growing a pedophile moustache
just thought id let you know internetz
 
Wut.
I have a growing suspicion Ell took Etienne's advice.
 
Xeo
Reminds me, I still have a good bit of my Captain Morgan bottle left
And coke
Gotta get at that now
 
Ell
@xeo is that rum?
 
Où est allé tout ce monde
Qui avait quelque chose à raconter
On a mis quelqu'un au monde
On devrait peut-être l'écouter
 
Xeo
1:53 AM
Indeed, Carribean rum
Rather sweet, the smell atleast
 
Ell
one of my classmates almost died
 
@Xeo Isn't that cheap rum?
 
Ell
at the after prom party. drank an entire bottle of that rum to himself and then a load of other
 
@EtiennedeMartel That means you can drink more.
 
Xeo
What do you consider "cheap"? The 700ml bottle costs 13€, and had its price lowered to 9€ as a special offer
 
1:54 AM
I mean, it's good enough to dilute in Coke, but you can't really have Captain Morgan "on the rocks". That would be sacrilege.
@Xeo I was referring to the quality.
 
Ell
he had lethal amounts of blood alcohol but he is a big guy so he survived with only large amounts of vomit on himself
 
Xeo
Well, can't talk much about that, really
Since I didn't drinlk that many different rums yet
What I really liked was Havana Club, though
Had shots of that at the birthday party of a friend
 
@Xeo That is much better quality.
 
Xeo
Well, they're different rum types too, aren't they?
But yeah, I can't really say I like "raw" Capt. Morgan. By far not as tasty as the smell suggests
 
Well, the problem with dark rum is that when you buy cheap one, it's usually just light rum with colorants added.
 
Xeo
1:57 AM
With coke, I think it's quite OK, though I still prefer white rum I think
 
@EtiennedeMartel Sounds efficient.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That means you end up paying for something that you thought was several years old but is in reality only one year old.
 
Ell
do you think its acceptable to be racist/homophobic/sexist/etc amongst frieds?
also, what are your favourite cheeses?
 
Xeo
Oh, Mojito Cubana was also yummy, I had that in Prague on a class trip
 
If I want to get drunk fast, I get vodka. Otherwise I just stick to beer. That is, either microbrews or imported Belgian beers.
 
2:00 AM
@EtiennedeMartel Right, efficient. You can make it in less time.
@Ell Fried what?
 
Ell
darn :P friends*
 
Also, no. If you're racist/homophobic/sexist/etc only when with someone, you're not only racist/homophobic/sexist/etc, but also an hypocrite.
 
still haven't gotten around to buy smokes yet.. 4:00 am, blargh.. see ya soon
 
Xeo
havana-club.com/en/int/cuban-rum/anejo-15-anos (warning, annoying Flash, JS, whatever content)
that was the one we had at the party
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Fun fact: large breweries inject CO2 in their beers instead of waiting for the fermentation to naturally occur.
 
Ell
2:02 AM
why a hypocrite?
 
Do I really need to explain?
 
@Xeo Well, I hope you had it plain, without anything else
 
Ell
no its okay
 
> Hypocrisy is the state of pretending to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that one does not actually have. Hypocrisy involves the deception of others and is thus a kind of lie.
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel Yes, shots, as I said
We emptied 1 1/2 of those with 3 people
 
2:03 AM
@Xeo What.
 
Xeo
*shorts
 
Ell
oh my definition of hypocrisy was sort of misguided
 
Xeo
Damn you, typoes!
 
You had good rum, and you used shot glasses?
 
I thought shorts was clothing.
 
2:04 AM
I mean, shots is when you don't want to taste the damn thing and all you care about is getting drunk.
 
Xeo
It was at the outskirts in a forest in train wagons :P
We didn't have anything else
 
@EtiennedeMartel Isn't that what you preach?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No.
 
So, it's "get drunk, but taste the thing; at least while you care"?
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel Fact: I didn't even get drunk, and that was my first time really drinking
 
2:05 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Get drunk if you want to get drunk; taste the thing if it's good enough to have an actual taste.
 
The beer I drank tonight is a "weizenbock". Sounds German.
 
Ell
nuht all
 
Well, after all this prompting, I decided I just had to go down to the basement, and open a bottle. A Chardonnay that should by all rights be a bit past its prime (close to 5 years old) but actually tasting quite good.
 
Ell
godt nacht
 
2:08 AM
@Ell G'night.
 
@Ell Have fun.
 
Helmets are for pussies, my friend.
 
@JerryCoffin I took me quite a while before I actually started enjoying wine.
 
You enjoy whining? :P
 
Typoosssssss.
 
2:08 AM
Wine sucks.
 
Xeo
Beer sucks.
 
Hey @DomagojPandža, what are our creds on kyrostat.com?
 
Alcohol sucks.
 
Well, fermented alcoholic drinks suck.
 
@EtiennedeMartel It's not ready yet, patience. :P
 
2:09 AM
@Xeo You're German and you say that? I think your parents failed somewhere.
 
but it draws you in with the sexy design, I know, I know.
 
Xeo
No, I just think it doesn't taste good
 
The other day I had rum beer. Tasted like caramel. It was deeelicious.
 
Xeo
I just cannot come to like that bitterness.
 
My favorite kind of beer is the IPA, which is well known for being bitter as fuck.
 
2:10 AM
@EtiennedeMartel Despite all our neighbors having been German beer drinkers, I had the good fortune to have parents (especially my dad) who exposed me to good wine early in life...
 
Yeah, enjoying the taste of alcohol takes some... training.
It's not natural to like poison, after all.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Oh, your favorite is /bɪə/?
Gosh, that was so lame.
 
I can't believe this, Haskell is so ugly that it is drawing me in for more. It's like it is challenging me.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You have thinks backwards. I suck fermented alcohol drinks.
 
2:13 AM
@JerryCoffin If you use a straw, you're doing it wrong.
 
Xeo
@DomagojPandža And now please ask what Monads are.
 
Oh, GCC has __attribute((__deprecated__)). And clang too. And clang's allows for a message.
Ok, time for some macroing.
 
@Xeo I am very familiar with them, I just don't like them. Well, for that matter, I don't like C++. It just obeys, so I spare it.
 
And this means it has a chance of being made an official attribute. takes note to write proposal
 
@EtiennedeMartel I've heard of people doing that, but no, I don't. However, to get the full taste of wine you want to take a sip in your mouth, and then hold some on your tongue and suck air through it.
 
2:15 AM
I am currently in the process of devouring my own bindings for OpenGL, just for the funzies.
Probably just requires time to get used to it.
 
@DomagojPandža Much like democracy, C++ is the worst programming language ever -- except for (nearly?) all the others that have been tried.
 
@JerryCoffin Then I suck at tasting wine.
Then again, I'm mostly a beer guy.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Then you're apparently doing it right! :-)
 
@DomagojPandža There is an existing binding, if you care/are not aware/whatever. If you really want to write yours, I won't stop you though.
Also, good luck making decent OpenGL bindings without a monad.
 
@EtiennedeMartel You have my sincere condolences. Well, being honest, I'm really a bit envious of beer drinkers. When I see somebody who likes beer take their first sip on a hot afternoon...well, I like my wine, but I'm pretty sure it's never had that effect on me.
 
2:19 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Just because I don't like them doesn't mean I am not going to employ the concept. :D I am doing it just for the fun of it, perhaps I'll learn to appreciate the language and everything that comes along with it more.
 
There was this microbrewery in Sherbrooke, La Mare au Diable. Once per year, they serve the Mauvaise Idée (litterally "bad idea"), which is a barley wine. 12% alcohol, tastes like there's no alcohol in it.
 
@DomagojPandža Ah, ok. Curry on, then.
 
@EtiennedeMartel But does it taste like it has hops in it? That's what's unique to beer (at least AFAIK), and I've always presumed what made it taste so awful.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What have you explored, by the way? You seem to be quite passionate about it. :D
Appreciate it from a language designer's PoV or as an actual user of it?
 
@JerryCoffin That's the interesting thing I find with beer. Wine is quite varied, but it still tastes like wine, ya know. With beer, you never really know what you're going to get.
 
2:23 AM
@DomagojPandža I used it quite extensively in university (my university is one the big shots in Haskell or something). I haven't used it much outside of it yet, but mostly because I haven't picked a nice project for it.
I've used it a lot for parsing, though, which is, IMO, where it excels at.
I like how few warts it actually has. I'm quite fond of monads, probably because I spent the entire first year frustrated for failing to grasp them, but then felt really great when it finally clicked. I think that was the hardest thing I ever grokked.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I've heard quite a few people say that (usually accompanied by a claim that if I just taste this particular beer, I'm sure to love it). To me, it all tastes pretty similar though, with only a slight variation in just how concentrated the foulness is.
 
@JerryCoffin That's what I thought at first with wine. It's all a mater of experience.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I dunno. I honestly tried to give beer a chance, drinking it semi-regularly for close to a year. It eventually became apparent that no matter what I did, it wasn't going to ever be something I enjoyed, so I stopped.
 
@JerryCoffin What kind of beer?
 
@EtiennedeMartel I tried quite a few kinds -- everything from "lite" beer to basic American Buttwieper, to English, Canadian, German, and Belgian (and probably at least a few others I can't remember anymore -- this was quite a while ago).
 
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2:56 AM
So many good beers out there, I think that people who don't like beer just aren't trying. But of course I love beer
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Is this true?.
 

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