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11:00 PM
@Zoidberg'-- gewaagd. Ik vermoed dat (a) de soep niet zo heet gegeten zal worden als zij wordt opgediend (b) de rijke VVDers hun knopen gaan tellen, zich gaan herinneren dat zij gelukkig niet arm zijn en tevens dat ze veel minder belasting gaan betalen. O ja en de hypotheek aftrek pas in 28 jaar verdwijnt.
 
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Ik begrijp niet waarom Samsom meer geld wil uitgeven aan ontwikkelingshulp, terwijl er bezuinigd moet worden in Nederland. Laat mensen zelf ontwikkelingshulp steunen als ze dat willen; laat dat niet de staat doen.
 
@Zoidberg'-- Tja. Sommige partijen hebben nog visie en ideologie. Ik heb overigens op de enige partij met nog meer visie en wat meer pragmatisme gestemd :)
@Zoidberg'-- Well, not supporting the developing nations is blindsided. This will hurt in the long run. Europe needs strong African economies. Supporting them is only selfish enough to make sense
 
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@sehe sure, but IMO that’s not the task of the government.
 
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Ik zou PVV of PP stemmen.
 
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Of, als ik moet stemmen vlak voor ik verhuis naar het buitenland, zou ik SP stemmen.
 
11:04 PM
Stop it. Stop the gibberish.
 
@Zoidberg'-- Well, I since then looked into that. PP makes some sense. But it is not what the country needs right now. Strange marriage of PvdA/VVD isn't very likely either, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt
 
Anyone played Dishonored?
 
@CatPlusPlus So much for 'no gibberish' policy :) LOL
@CatPlusPlus <sulk/>
@Zoidberg'-- Rotzak
 
user142019
 
I'm a master sulker.
 
11:05 PM
That's sulks
 
user142019
Sulker? Sukkel.
 
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@TonyTheLion Ohio.
 
what's new?
you're trolling the polar bear?
 
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@TonyTheLion I’m learning Erlang and Elixir.
 
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11:06 PM
@TonyTheLion if I move to another country, yes.
 
@TonyTheLion I hadn't even notussed
 
defmodule Hello do
  IO.puts "Defining the function world"

  def world do
    IO.puts "Hello World"
  end

  IO.puts "Function world defined"
end

Hello.world
Elixir ^
 
@Zoidberg'-- You told twitter, so it isn't news anymore
 
Elixir you say.
 
@TonyTheLion Soooo happy to know that
 
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11:07 PM
@sehe so it’s olds?
 
@sehe :P
 
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@CatPlusPlus Elixir I say.
 
@Zoidberg'-- what country you wanna move to?
 
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@TonyTheLion Amedica or UK.
 
I thought you were some patriotic type?
 
11:07 PM
IF OBAMA GETS REELECTED I SWEAR I'M MOVING TO *checks list of countries more libertarian than the US* TRANS-SOMALIAN DISPUTED ZONE #TEAPARTY
 
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@TonyTheLion I like the Dutch language, that’s all.
 
Come on, nobody plays games here or what.
Scrubs.
 
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@CatPlusPlus No I don't play games, sorry to dissapoint.
 
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11:08 PM
@CatPlusPlus I play Scrabble and chess, sometimes Pim-pam-pet.
 
@CatPlusPlus unless you a free and interesting one...
@Zoidberg'-- WTF?!
 
Why aren't there demos, fuck.
 
oh cat
 
For the first time in years I have to wonder if I can run shit.
I need a better PC.
 
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@TonyTheLion oh other cat
 
11:09 PM
@CatPlusPlus No time. In other news, I think i'm going to have 'spierpijn' muscle ache (thx, Lion) tomorrow. I just played Carmina Burana on the piano. With a large choir and percussion ensemble. TIL: This is the proper right way to chop wood!
 
@Zoidberg'-- lol
@sehe spierpijn = muscle ache
cause @Cat don't speak Dutch
He's Polish, also TIL there's a town called Poland near Chicago
 
@TonyTheLion That simple huh. Well 'muscle ache' gives me 'eye ache'
 
There's also a town called Fuck.
 
user142019
I also have a piano.
 
@sehe wut? You suck.
@CatPlusPlus true
 
11:11 PM
@TonyTheLion Amedicans and their sense of topography. Derp
 
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@CatPlusPlus Fucking.*
 
@Zoidberg'-- Wait. You do? What for?
 
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@sehe I played it in the past.
 
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I still have it.
 
@sehe masturbating over it.
we should change the tag line
Cat knows he was executed by now
 
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11:12 PM
@TonyTheLion Cat has only eight more lives to live.
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: The last tag line lasted too long. Changing... [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
 
hm, it feels a bit weird to write IsHrSuccess const isHrSuccess{};. and intellisense in visual studio places red marks all over the code. it's like another language, almost.
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: The Cat has only eight more lives to live. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
 
@Zoidberg'-- Acoustic? Digital? Brand? Age? Weight? Sex? Location?
 
@Zoidberg'-- tis done.
 
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11:14 PM
@sehe No. Yes. Yamaha. ~8-years-old. ~60kg. Neuter. Schijf.
 
it is finished
 
@Zoidberg'-- Cool. Height? 120, 140 or 160? oh, digital
 
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user142019
^ Around 0:06.
 
11:15 PM
@Zoidberg'-- Amedica?
As in, the country without medics?
 
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7 mins ago, by Zoidberg'--
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 'Merika
 
@Zoidberg'-- He knows. He's the robot
@TonyTheLion Merkistan
 
Your mum.
 
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11:16 PM
sehe’s mum.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh in other news. The other pianist (an old friend) flew over from Geneva just for this concert. He brought his girlfriend. She's half-Portuguese and from Portugal. She was nice. Bonus points for Portugal :)
 
Ell
sehe's mum has got it goin onnnn
 
eatin each other's snaut
 
@Ell what did I miss
 
Ell
11:22 PM
its a song. "Staceys Mom"
also, what is the quickest to use GUI library in any language?
 
@Ell Don't
@Ell Oh. Thaaat
 
Ell
is it that bad?
 
user142019
@Ell Probably Tkinter in Python. Beware: it sucks castrated dog balls.
 
user142019
Or maybe HTML5.
 
posted on November 03, 2012 by Herb Sutter

Jeff Atwood’s post two days ago inspired me to write this down. Thanks, Jeff. “I can’t even remember the last time I was this excited about a computer.” – Jeff Atwood, November 1, 2012 Our industry is young again, full of the bliss and sense of wonder and promise of adventure that comes with youth. [...]

 
Ell
11:26 PM
actually. nevermind
 
user142019
I love Erlang.
 
user406009
WTF. std::piecewise_construct is some deep template magic.
 
Ell
cool story bro
aww man I was too late
 
@Lalaland Actually, it's basically some hack to disambiguate some funky combination of ordinary variadic happenings
piecewise_construct is basically there to be able to do something like template<typename... A, typename... B> but using tuples as a hack
 
Xeo
And same goes for std::allocator_arg
 
11:32 PM
@Xeo hadn't seen that one before. But I get what it is useful for :)
 
user142019
A friend of mine disagrees with a fact.
 
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She says that in her opinion the morning starts at 0:00.
 
Change friends
 
Xeo
@sehe I wonder why they decided to have std::make_shared and std::allocate_shared instead of an overload with std::allocator_arg_t. :/
 
Ell
you have friends? o.O
 
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11:34 PM
@Ell uh, yes? ಠ_ಠ
 
Ell
>:D
 
user142019
Hmm I’m going to implement a distributed unique, conflict-free ID generator in Erlang.
 
@Xeo lol
@Zoidberg'-- Sounds like fun
Anyways, I'm off to bed.
Nigth all
 
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Später.
 
Xeo
night
 
Ell
11:36 PM
night
 
Aw, hell, I'm buying the damn game.
If Steam ever manages to swap itself back in.
 
Wrong OS choice. Again :) (SCNR - of course Win8 is fine)
 
I don't know a universe in which Win8 is fine.
 
Broaden your mind
3
 
Ell
hmm was steam only linux beta when valve started doing stuff on linux?
 
11:40 PM
Better yet: flatten it.
You might see the merit
 
@Ell What.
 
Ell
is steam on linux yet?
 
@sehe Won't make Win8 fine, that's for sure.
@Ell It entered a beta recently.
 
user142019
Windows 8 is for tablets and tablets are terrible.
 
Ell
was steam only on linux because valve started doing half life on linux? or left for dead or whatever
 
11:42 PM
I just found this ^
 
SDL in action: no Microsoft products in Kaspersky's top-10 most vulnerable software products list http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2012/11/02/microsofts-security-team-is-killing-it-not-one-product-on-kasperskys-top-10-vulnerabilities-list/
^ See, Windows even sucks less these day
 
Valve decided to put Steam and their games on Linux.
 
Xeo
@Zoidberg'-- Tablets make for awesome character sheets!
 
6MB/s hell yeah.
 
@Xeo e-readers trump tablets there
 
Xeo
11:45 PM
@sehe Can you modify something on an e-reader?
 
@Xeo ahem. fixed. And, yeah obviously you can do basically anything once you have control over the bits
 
Xeo
(serious question, I know nothing of ebooks and their readers)
 
user142019
@Xeo ePub files are just zip files containing HTML files.
 
Xeo
Mhm
 
user142019
Of course, they used an idiotic format as HTML.
 
user142019
11:46 PM
Instead of something that doesn’t suck for books.
 
@Zoidberg'-- Which goes a long ways to exploining regular suckiness
 
PDFs make for good ebooks imo
 
@Rapptz Given large enough screen or specially laid-out PDF
 
user142019
They should instead have invented some semantic format especially for books.
 
I have Adobe Reader on my phone and it works pretty well. I don't have an ereader so I have no idea about those :x
 
Ell
11:47 PM
oh. valve owns steam?
 
I think they did something like that a few dozen times. It didn't really work. Presentation for humans is a task not easily automated
 
user142019
Books are best printed anyway.
 
#define CPPX_WITH( initializer )                    \
    if( bool cppx_with_finished = false ) {}        \
    else for(                                       \
        auto const cppx_with_object = initializer;  \
        !cppx_with_finished;                        \
        cppx_with_finished = true )
 
@Rapptz yeah I use it. With some books, it can be annoying (some don't reflow, dunno why, but they don't)
 
^ It feals like COBOL
 
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11:48 PM
E-books suck donkey cock.
 
@Ell Yes.
 
Xeo
@Cheersandhth.-Alf y u use auto const and not auto&&? Fuck copies. :|
 
user142019
And e-books suck even more because they can be DRM-protected.
 
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And DRM is a cancer.
 
Needs proof. I'd say a primary concerns with cancer is the intrinsic ability to spread. DRM prevents (effective) spreading :)
 
11:49 PM
@Xeo you would have to work at it to really get a copy
 
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The people who invented DRM and the people who support DRM must be shot immediately.
 
You can remove DRM easy.
 
Xeo
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Huh?
 
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@Rapptz illegal activity! If you do that, you could just as well pirate it in the first place.
 
The DRM on books is just an idiot check.
No. If I paid for it, I deserve to own it.
 
11:50 PM
@Xeo when u write Blah const x = Blah(), generally the copy is elided. but it's qoi, yes
 
@Zoidberg'-- Not true, ethically speaking
 
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user image
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inb4 giant onebox
 
It's why DRM sucks, like you said. It's much easier to pirate something because DRM effectively kills willingness to purchase something due to lack of ownership.
 
@Zoidberg'-- Worth it
 
user142019
11:52 PM
I also hate software that you can install only on up to X computers.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf If copyable. No std::mutex allowed there.
 
user142019
Crack it? Illegal. Just pirate it. Same thing.
 
@DeadMG how? isn't movable? lemme try
 
Well, maybe they shouldn't of made removing DRM on e-books so god damn easy that a child could do it.
 
user142019
I think I’m going to buy this book.
 
user142019
11:55 PM
Fuck giant oneboxes.
 
@deadmg: compiles fine with msvc 11.0
 
Ell
yeah but piratng and cracking after purchase for yourself is different on the ethics scale
when you crack at least you have paid something
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf The Standard doesn't mandate movable std::mutex. It wouldn't compile on GCC.
 
oh, i didn't try std::mutex, just a non-copyable class
 
@Ell iirc, having a ROM of a game you used to own wasn't illegal.. at some point. I'm not sure if it still is.
 
11:58 PM
@DeadMG it seems that g++ 4.7.1 doesn have std::mutex. file below compiles with msvc,not with g++
#include <mutex>
using namespace std;

int main()
{
    mutex m;
}
 
DRM and the whole copyright industry can go fuck itself and die in fire.
 
that could explain why it doesn't compile?
 

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